2023 Prospects

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

A hunch: Rafaela will open '24 on a big league roster... maybe even the Red Sox'.

 

A prediction: fastest mover in '24 will be Kyle Teel, maybe with a cup of coffee in Boston by September.

[moonslav59]

A hunch: Rafaela will open '24 on a big league roster... maybe even the Red Sox'.

 

A prediction: fastest mover in '24 will be Kyle Teel, maybe with a cup of coffee in Boston by September.

 

Both seem entirely possible.

 

You think Teel makes the bigs before Mayer?

[mvp 78]

MLB Pipeline just ranked all 30 farm systems. Red Sox were #16... they were #11 a year ago... and #12 two years ago. I'm so confused -- Bloom!

 

Baseball America has them at 3.

[moonslav59]

Baseball America has them at 3.

 

Much more of a trusted organization on farm rankings.

[sk7326]

Both seem entirely possible.

 

You think Teel makes the bigs before Mayer?

 

Probably. There is just not much standing in the way of him positionally ... and of course the offensive threshhold is much lower.

[sk7326]

Fangraphs had Boston #4...

 

... but when you say "you" is that me, specifically, or all analysts in general?

 

And that would include fans, websites, media and voters; for instance, a decade ago, the Red Sox had the Eastern League Pitcher of the Year in 2013, Anthony Ranaudo, and 2014, Henry Owens. That certainly had to help Boston's rankings -- at least as far as pitching prospects. But alas, those awards may have been the highlights of both of their professional careers...

 

I meant "the analysts" as far as the "you". The team has done a lot to rebuild the lower levels with interesting pitching. But right now only Bello looks like a Top 2 starter (and he has graduated). Pitching will always have much wider error bars than position players.

[mvp 78]

Much more of a trusted organization on farm rankings.

 

MLB Pipeline isn't very good. If they had the Sox at #1, I wouldn't be hooting and hollering about it.

 

Sox are somewhere in the top 10 for sure. How high? Who knows?

[mvp 78]

I meant "the analysts" as far as the "you". The team has done a lot to rebuild the lower levels with interesting pitching. But right now only Bello looks like a Top 2 starter (and he has graduated). Pitching will always have much wider error bars than position players.

 

Perales has similar "stuff" to Bello, but hasn't put together a full season yet.

 

Drohan? No.

 

ERC? No.

 

Monegro? IDK. He's been very good this year. He's going to really rise up the end of the year rankings. Had 18 swing and misses last time out. As good of a chance as Perales.

[Hugh2]

Perales has similar "stuff" to Bello, but hasn't put together a full season yet.

 

Drohan? No.

 

ERC? No.

 

Monegro? IDK. He's been very good this year. He's going to really rise up the end of the year rankings. Had 18 swing and misses last time out. As good of a chance as Perales.

 

I'm not sure what is meant by as good of a chance as Perales. At becoming a big leaguer? perhaps, but Perales raw stuff is much better. Better fastball with more velocity, with a potential plus changeup with a lot more differential, amonst other advantages.

 

The injury concern may be real, but given his age and nature of the injuries I'm not yet convinced he's "injury prone". Most pitchers will sustain some kind of injury at some point in their careers, the fact that it happens earlier could be a concern, or just a fluke. If it's a fluke, he really is just one year behind on ramping up his innings.

 

Next year should be very telling for him. He could regress in rankings and become seen as more of a bullpen guy if he can not prove his durability, or he could progress into a top-100 prospect in all of baseball.

[Hugh2]

It's is concerning that Perales has not pitched in over a week, haven't heard about any kind of injury however.

[mvp 78]

It's is concerning that Perales has not pitched in over a week, haven't heard about any kind of injury however.

 

This was from the last start when he was roughed up:

 

@RotoClegg

Luis Perales just took a smoked Termarr Johnson line drive off his thigh. He made the play and is staying in the game, but that has to hurt. You could hear it from the stands.

[mvp 78]

@redsoxstats

BA Hot Sheet

1. Wilyer Abreu

6. Kyle Teel

8. Yordanny Monegro

 

"[Monegro] generated a career-high 18 swinging strikes — showed command of his high-powered arsenal — ability to overpower age-appropriate competition. He’s a riser in a deep Red Sox system."

[Hugh2]

This was from the last start when he was roughed up:

 

@RotoClegg

Luis Perales just took a smoked Termarr Johnson line drive off his thigh. He made the play and is staying in the game, but that has to hurt. You could hear it from the stands.

 

That makes me feel a lot better, they're likely just being cautious. Now if he was having soreness in his elbow or shoulder it would be much more cause for concern.

[mvp 78]

Video of Yordanny's STUFF

[Hugh2]

@redsoxstats

BA Hot Sheet

1. Wilyer Abreu

6. Kyle Teel

8. Yordanny Monegro

 

"[Monegro] generated a career-high 18 swinging strikes — showed command of his high-powered arsenal — ability to overpower age-appropriate competition. He’s a riser in a deep Red Sox system."

 

 

Soxprospects have him pegged as a guy who is a minor-league depth arm.

 

They also went from having him unranked to 29th so there is that. That's a lot of swing and miss.....makes me think they may change his scouting report at some point. Probably in the offseason, given his age and small track record, but he's been impressive.

[mvp 78]

Soxprospects have him pegged as a guy who is a minor-league depth arm.

 

They also went from having him unranked to 29th so there is that. That's a lot of swing and miss.....makes me think they may change his scouting report at some point. Probably in the offseason, given his age and small track record, but he's been impressive.

 

They haven't changed Monegro's scouting report and won't do so until next Spring most likely. They also list Perales as "Potential back-end starter. Ceiling of a mid-rotation starter."

[mvp 78]

The current report doesn't even mention the slider the Monegro throws. It'll be interesting to see what it looks like when it's updated in ST.

 

A 96 MPH heater with a 12-6 curve is a nice combo IMO.

[Hugh2]

They haven't changed Monegro's scouting report and won't do so until next Spring most likely. They also list Perales as "Potential back-end starter. Ceiling of a mid-rotation starter."

 

Yeah, you're right, and I remember that now.

 

They might change their rankings every month, but the scouting reports aren't updated as often.

 

I think it's reasonable to assume the scouting reports are going to raise the ceiling for both Monegro and Perales.

 

I just don't know how someone with that much swing and miss can't have MLB potential. He does.

[Larry Cook]

The current report doesn't even mention the slider the Monegro throws. It'll be interesting to see what it looks like when it's updated in ST.

 

A 96 MPH heater with a 12-6 curve is a nice combo IMO.

 

Those little dances and jumps he does when he strikes people out is fun to watch if your a Red Sox fan, but must be aggravating if you are the opponent

[mvp 78]

Those little dances and jumps he does when he strikes people out is fun to watch if your a Red Sox fan, but must be aggravating if you are the opponent

 

Yeah, it’s really great.

[moonslav59]

Rafaela homered and Abreu had 2 hits, but that was all Woo could muster.

Walter pitched well, but it was not enough.

 

POR lost as Yorke and Hickey had 2 hits, each.

 

Song got drilled in the GRE loss. Anthony has 2 hits, as did Castro, Gonzo and Decker.

 

SAL won 4-2 as Monegro did meh (4IP, 4H, 2ER, 1BB, 5K)

 

[mvp 78]

Romero was carried off the field last night. No update about his NON CONTACT injury. Hip/knee issue?

[moonslav59]

Romero was carried off the field last night. No update about his NON CONTACT injury. Hip/knee issue?

 

We may never see what level he can play at, if he keeps getting hurt.

[mvp 78]

We may never see what level he can play at, if he keeps getting hurt.

 

Yup, not all prospects work out. It's still early though.

[Larry Cook]

Guys with long swings, Jordan, Kavadas and binelas seem to struggle at Portland.

[moonslav59]

Woo won 3-1.

Bear Claw pitched well: 6.2IP, 2H, 1ER, 2BB, 11K

Only 3 hits:

EValdez 2-3 w HR (.907)

Abreu 1-4 (.911)

Dalbec 0-2 w BB (.977)

 

POR is down 7-4, late.

Coffey pitched poorly.

Jordan 2-4

Meidroth 1-3 w BB

 

GRE tied 1-1 in 8th

Penrod: 5IP, 5H, 0ER, 4BB, 2K

Castro 2-4 w HR

Anthony 1-3 w BB

Teel 0-3 w BB

 

SAL down 7-0, late.

Nunez was rocked

Salazar 2-4 w 2B

 

[moonslav59]

Before tonight's games...

 

Sox Farm Leaders (100+ PAs)

1.049 S Scott (21 xbhs in 122 ABs)

1.040 Rafaela (27 xbhs in 160 ABs)

.984 Dalbec (30 HRs)

.917 Abreu (Coming on strong!)

.893 Fitzy (career AAAA)

.875 EValdez (.357 OBP

.810 RHern (14 HRs)

.804 DHam (14 HRs and 45 SBs)

 

POR

.877 Hickey (26 xbhs)

.817 Scott (12 xbhs in 120 ABs)

.816 Kavadas (14 HRs)

.814 Rosier (.351 OBP & 42 SBs)

.801 Yorke (35 xbhs)

 

GRE

1.023 Anthony (24 xbhs in 158 ABs)

.954 Meidroth (just under 100 PAs)

.918 Jordan (.385 OBP)

.825 Bonaci (.353 OBP)

 

SAL

.879 Asigen

 

 

[moonslav59]

Most K's on the farm...

144 in 90 IP Wikelman

140 in 105 I Coffey

139 in 103 Bastardo

127 in 84 Rogers

124 in 98 Liu

115 in 110 Gambrell

113 in 109 Drohan

94 in 70 Perales

94 in 84 Dobbins

 

 

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Romero was carried off the field last night. No update about his NON CONTACT injury. Hip/knee issue?

 

I didn’t see the play but very often these are ACL/MCL…