2023 Prospects

[moonslav59]

MLB.com reranked their top 100:

 

11 Mayer

37 Anthony

78 Rafaela

88 Teal

 

 

[moonslav59]

Woo's game was postponed.

 

POR lost 7-4.

Hickey 2-4 w HR and 2B

Rosier 1-4 w 2B

Bonaci 1-3 w 2BB

 

GRE lost 8-7

Teel 3-5 w 2B (1.336 OPS)

Castro 2-4

Decker 2-5 w 3B

Lopez 3-4

 

SAL won 9-8

Mejicano 3-4 w 2B

AHern 3-5 w 2B

Montero 2-3 w 2B

Feliz 2-3 w BB

Asigen 2-4 w 3B

 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

MLB Top 100 prospects just updated. Mayer #13, Anthony #37...Rafaela #78, Teel #88... Bleis is MIA (not in Miami).

 

The Yankees have zero in the top #78. Jays only have two in the top 100.

 

But the Orioles have four guys in the top 28, six in the top 55. Tampa has three middle infielders in the top 36; still?

[Larry Cook]

 

Tampa has three middle infielders in the top 36; still?

 

Hang’em Chaim may not know anything about pitching or outfield. But he loves those middle infielders

[mvp 78]

Teel threw out a 2nd runner this afternoon.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Teel threw out a 2nd runner this afternoon.

 

This may send some amateur analysts into a frenzy, but with Teel -- maybe, just maybe -- Bloom didn't just snatch the Best Player Available... because the Red Sox really needed a top catching prospect --

 

--- ya know, to help build the core of the next sustained contenders.

 

NOW SIGN (OR TRADE some shortstop prospects for) BELOW-30 CONTROLLABLE STARTING PITCHERS... ASAP damn it

[moonslav59]

This may send some amateur analysts into a frenzy, but with Teel -- maybe, just maybe -- Bloom didn't just snatch the Best Player Available... because the Red Sox really needed a top catching prospect --

 

--- ya know, to help build the core of the next sustained contenders.

 

NOW SIGN (OR TRADE some shortstop prospects for) BELOW-30 CONTROLLABLE STARTING PITCHERS... ASAP damn it

 

I'm all for the idea!

[Dipre]

This may send some amateur analysts into a frenzy, but with Teel -- maybe, just maybe -- Bloom didn't just snatch the Best Player Available... because the Red Sox really needed a top catching prospect --

 

--- ya know, to help build the core of the next sustained contenders.

 

NOW SIGN (OR TRADE some shortstop prospects for) BELOW-30 CONTROLLABLE STARTING PITCHERS... ASAP damn it

 

They drafted the best available player. Teel was around 7th in most draft boards, and got snatched by the Sox at 14.

[moonslav59]

They drafted the best available player. Teel was around 7th in most draft boards, and got snatched by the Sox at 14.

 

It's the way it should be, even if you are already stacked at the position (not that we were at catcher.)

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

It's obviously only coincidence that Teel was the best college catcher in the country -- and that the Red Sox had no really good catching prospects in their entire system.

 

But since he was the no-brainer best player available when Boston's #14 pick rolled around, the front office must be salivating at the potential. It should be no problem to move him to shortstop, after they move the other best players they picked who also play shortstop to other positions. Teel could even DH on the days he doesn't pitch...

[moonslav59]

It's obviously only coincidence that Teel was the best college catcher in the country -- and that the Red Sox had no really good catching prospects in their entire system.

 

But since he was the no-brainer best player available when Boston's #14 pick rolled around, the front office must be salivating at the potential. It should be no problem to move him to shortstop, after they move the other best players they picked who also play shortstop to other positions. Teel could even DH on the days he doesn't pitch...

 

You crack me up- always!

 

[Larry Cook]

It's obviously only coincidence that Teel was the best college catcher in the country -- and that the Red Sox had no really good catching prospects in their entire system.

 

But since he was the no-brainer best player available when Boston's #14 pick rolled around, the front office must be salivating at the potential. It should be no problem to move him to shortstop, after they move the other best players they picked who also play shortstop to other positions. Teel could even DH on the days he doesn't pitch...

 

Will leaving him behind the plate hurt his offense????

[moonslav59]

Will leaving him behind the plate hurt his offense????

 

Even if it does, let's see how the comps might look:

 

Let's say his OPS would be .825 as a catcher and .850 at 1B or elsewhere.

 

League catcher OPS have ranged from .660-.715 over the last 5 years.

 

League 1B OPS have ranged from .730-.790 over the last 5 years.

 

LF: .705 to .775

DH: .730 to .805

 

He's be about 140 points higher than the norm at catcher, but only...

 

90 higher than 1B

110 at LF

90 at DH

 

I'll take a catcher that blows almost every other team's catcher OPS out of the water than a 1Bman, left fielder and DH who is just marginally better than his counterpart.

 

[moonslav59]

Woo won the suspended game 5-0.

Walter 3 IP 3H 0ER 1BB 2K

Rafaela 2-3 w 12th HR

Abreu 1-2 w HBP

 

Woo lost the regular game 7-1

Houck went 3 IP: 1H, 0ER, 0BB, 3K

Abreu 2-3 (.833)

Dalbec hit his 28th HR (1.000 OPS)

 

POR won 12-4

Denlinger 2.1 IP, 2H, 0ER, 0BB, 3K

Hickey 2-4 w 14th HR

Yorke 2-4 w BB

Binelas 1-3 w HR & BB

Bonaci 1-4 w HR & BB

 

Gree lost 5-1

Lopez with a solo blast

 

SAL lost 3-1

Monegro 5IP, 3H, 0ER, 1BB, 11 K

Romero 1-3 w 3B & BB

 

FCL lost

Campbell 3-3

Yuten 2-5

Zayas 1-3 w HR

 

DSL Red won 3-0

Musett 3-4 w HR

 

DSL Blue won 3-1

Salazar 2-3 w 2B & BB

Cespedes 1-4 (.991)

Nunez 1-4 w 3B (.919)

 

 

 

 

 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

 

SAL lost 3-1

Monegro 5IP, 3H, 0ER, 1BB, 11 K

Romero 1-3 w 3B & BB

 

 

 

Monegro moved up to #22 on MLB Sox prospect list... only 4 other pitchers are ahead of him: #9 Gonzalez, # 10 Perales, #16 Bastardo, #18 Drohan.

 

Monegro and Perales are each 20 years old.

 

Interesting to note that the Red Sox current big league leader in WAR -- Bello -- is already 24. He debuted at 23, after rocketing through the system.

 

(man, we're going to be in awe of that 2027 Sox club... those of us old-timers who make it that far)

[mvp 78]

Bastardo at 16 is wild.

[moonslav59]

Monegro moved up to #22 on MLB Sox prospect list... only 4 other pitchers are ahead of him: #9 Gonzalez, # 10 Perales, #16 Bastardo, #18 Drohan.

 

Monegro and Perales are each 20 years old.

 

Interesting to note that the Red Sox current big league leader in WAR -- Bello -- is already 24. He debuted at 23, after rocketing through the system.

 

(man, we're going to be in awe of that 2027 Sox club... those of us old-timers who make it that far)

 

Patience used to be a virtue: not anymore.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Patience used to be a virtue: not anymore.

 

Kids these days

[notin]

It's obviously only coincidence that Teel was the best college catcher in the country -- and that the Red Sox had no really good catching prospects in their entire system.

 

But since he was the no-brainer best player available when Boston's #14 pick rolled around, the front office must be salivating at the potential. It should be no problem to move him to shortstop, after they move the other best players they picked who also play shortstop to other positions. Teel could even DH on the days he doesn't pitch...

 

That’s the San Diego philosophy, not Boston…

[moonslav59]

Woo won 8-4 as Abreu remains hot. Will he be our starting RF'er, next year?

2-4 Abreu w HR, 2B and 4 rbi (.864)

2-3 Rafaela w BB (1.035)

1-3 EValdez w HR & 3 rbi (.962)

 

POR lost 5-1

Coffey 6IP, 2H, 1ER, 1BB, 4K

2-4 Bonaci 2 2B

 

GRE is up 8-7

Bastardo got lit up, but Teel is el fuego!

3-4 Teel

2-3 Paulino

2-5 Anthony

 

SAL lost 8-7

Nunez 4 IP, 1H, 0ER, 0BB, 6K

3-4 James

2-4 Asigen

 

FCL won 3-2

1-3 Zanetello

1-4 Tucker w HR

 

DSL Blue won 4-0

2-4 Cespedes

 

DSL Red lost 3-2

Henriquez: 5IP, 2H, 1ER, 1BB, 5K

 

 

 

[Larry Cook]

Anthony has really impressed me this year. Love the swing!

[moonslav59]

Anthony has really impressed me this year. Love the swing!

 

I'm wondering, if he might pass Mayer, at some point.

[moonslav59]

Has any Sox prospects ever gotten off to a better start than Teel? (20+ PAs)

 

.529 BA

.600 OBP

.765 SLG

1.365 OPS

 

Could we see these rankings by the end of the season?

 

1. Anthony

2. Mayer

3. Teel

4. Rafaela

5. Bleis

 

Is this the best top 5 we've had since _____?

[moonslav59]

OPS Leaders on the Farm (20+ PAs)

 

1.365 Teel FCL/GRE (only 1 K)

.995 Cespedes DSL (24 xbh in 178 ABs)

.992 Dalbec AAA (28 HRs + 15 SBs)

.962 EValdez AAA (.384 OBP)

.956 Asencio DSL (20 BB/24 Ks in 76 ABs)

.908 Asigen FCL/SAL (.451 OBP/ 12 SBs in 39 gms)

.906 Fitzy AAA (39 xbhs)

.905 Hickey A+/AA (36 xbhs)

.904 Joh Garcia (.408 OBP)

.901 Nunez DSL (.401 OBP)

.890 Scott AA/AAA (29 xbhs and 40BB/55Ks in 235 ABs)

.886 Brannon FCL/SAL (.583 SLG)

.880 Yuten FCL (.396 OBP)

.,874 GRod DSL (.387 OBP)

.873 Musett DSL (.441 OBP)

.873 Rafaela AA/AAA (.524 SLG and 34 SBs, but 13 CS)

.864 Abreu AAA (.377 OBP)

.862 Jordan A+/AA (42 xbhs)

.856 Anthony A/A+ (.397 OBP and 13 SBs in 79 gms)

.853 Arias DSL (13BB/12Ks in 117 ABs)

 

notables

.835 Bonaci

.817 RHern (14 Hrs)

.813 Rosier (41 SBs)

.802 DHam (43 SBs)\

.799 Yorke

.796 Kavadas

.785 Meidroth

 

 

[Old Red]

Song opener today. 2 innings-1 hit-3k’s.

[moonslav59]

My God! Abreu might be ML ready, right now!

3 HRs (18th, 19th, 20th)

His OPS jumped to .901

Dalbec 2-4 with 2 Hrs (29th and 30th) & BB and a 1.011 OPS

Scott 2-5 with 10th HR & 2B(.999 OPS)

Valdez 1-3 w 2B and 2BB (.972)

 

POR lost in 10 (4-3)

Wikelman 5.2IP, 7H, 2ER, 1BB, 8K (2.03 ERA) Time to move to AAA?

Guerrero 2IP, 0H, 0ER, 0BB, 3K

Bonaci & Lugo 2-4

 

[Old Red]

My God! Abreu might be ML ready, right now!

3 HRs (18th, 19th, 20th)

His OPS jumped to .901

Dalbec 2-4 with 2 Hrs (29th and 30th) & BB and a 1.011 OPS

Scott 2-5 with 10th HR & 2B(.999 OPS)

Valdez 1-3 w 2B and 2BB (.972)

 

POR lost in 10 (4-3)

Wikelman 5.2IP, 7H, 2ER, 1BB, 8K (2.03 ERA) Time to move to AAA?

Guerrero 2IP, 0H, 0ER, 0BB, 3K

Bonaci & Lugo 2-4

 

 

Abreu may be ready, but let’s remember what Bobby D has done down there too.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Could we see these rankings by the end of the season?

 

1. Anthony

2. Mayer

3. Teel

4. Rafaela

5. Bleis

 

Is this the best top 5 we've had since _____?

 

I know you want to say 2014...

 

... but we both know that, first, some of these guys have to make the majors -- and ideally, combine to win a World Series...

 

Sox Top 5 2014 preseason prospects (Fangraphs): 1. Bogaerts, 2. Bradley, 3. Garin Cecchini, 4. Betts, 5. Swihart.

 

Sox Final 2014 prospect rankings (Bleacherreport)... Bogie, JBJ, Mookie, Vazquez and Workman were now graduates... but still:

... #1-5: Castillo, Swihart, Owens (EL Pitcher of the Year '14), Cecchini, Margot

... #6-10: ERod, Barnes, Ranaudo (EL Pitcher of the Year '13), DEVERS, Chavis

 

So ALL Top 10 Red Sox prospects on the final list at least made the Show. Will the 2023 farm be the best in a decade?

[moonslav59]

I know you want to say 2014...

 

... but we both know that, first, some of these guys have to make the majors -- and ideally, combine to win a World Series...

 

Sox Top 5 2014 preseason prospects (Fangraphs): 1. Bogaerts, 2. Bradley, 3. Garin Cecchini, 4. Betts, 5. Swihart.

 

Sox Final 2014 prospect rankings (Bleacherreport)... Bogie, JBJ, Mookie, Vazquez and Workman were now graduates... but still:

... #1-5: Castillo, Swihart, Owens (EL Pitcher of the Year '14), Cecchini, Margot

... #6-10: ERod, Barnes, Ranaudo (EL Pitcher of the Year '13), DEVERS, Chavis

 

So ALL Top 10 Red Sox prospects on the final list at least made the Show. Will the 2023 farm be the best in a decade?

 

Thanks for doing the homework, I was too lazy to do myself.

 

So, perhaps the best in 9-10 years.

 

Maybe someday, we can say even longer.

 

That April 2014 SP top 10 had:

Betts, Bogey, JBJ

Barnes, Workman

Owens, Swihart, Ranaudo, Cecchini, Webster

(Notable 10-20: Devers, Vaz, Margot)

 

By SEP 2014, graduations mad eit this list:

Devers, ERod, Margot

Barnes

Swihart, Owens, Johnson, Chavis, Ranaudo, Cecchini

Notable 11-20: Kopech, TShaw)

 

Edited August 14, 2023 by moonslav59

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Thanks for doing the homework, I was too lazy to do myself.

 

So, perhaps the best in 9-10 years.

 

Maybe someday, we can say even longer.

 

My pleasure. I love looking back at that class. And Sam wasn't interested in trading any of those guys, either (though Dombro finally moved Margot in a package that helped make the Sox a first-place team).