2023 Prospects

[moonslav59]

Story homered with Woo.

RHern stays hot with 2-4 & HR

Drohan had an okay game (6IP, 6H, 3ER, 2BB, 6K)

 

I'm telling you, this Grant Gambrell is on the move up.

7IP, 3H, 0ER, 1BB, 8K (3.12 ERA with POR)

12-0 win, The team had 17 hits and 6 BBs

2-3 Meidroth w 2BB

3-5 Esplin w 2 2Bs and 5 rbi

3-6 Rosier

2-5 Jordan

2-6 Yorke

1-4 Hickey w BB

 

GRE got smacked 20-8

 

SAL lost 8-3

Jh Garcia 1-4 w HR

 

[Larry Cook]

Story homered with Woo.

RHern stays hot with 2-4 & HR

Drohan had an okay game (6IP, 6H, 3ER, 2BB, 6K)

 

I'm telling you, this Grant Gambrell is on the move up.

7IP, 3H, 0ER, 1BB, 8K (3.12 ERA with POR)

12-0 win, The team had 17 hits and 6 BBs

2-3 Meidroth w 2BB

3-5 Esplin w 2 2Bs and 5 rbi

3-6 Rosier

2-5 Jordan

2-6 Yorke

1-4 Hickey w BB

 

GRE got smacked 20-8

 

SAL lost 8-3

Jh Garcia 1-4 w HR

 

 

Drohan is finally getting his control in order! Too much nibbling and he needs to start trusting his stuff again!

[moonslav59]

I would go:

 

Mayer

Bleis

Anthony

Rafaela

Teel

Yorke

Perales

Drohan

Wikelman

Romero

Zanetello

Valdez

Bonaci

Garcia

Murphy

Walter

Meidroth

Hickey

Rodriguez Cruz

Abreu

 

Not bad. I might go... (not what I think Sps will be)

 

1. Mayer

2. Anthony

3. Bleis

4. Rafaela

5. Teel

6. Joh Garcia

7. Cespedes

8. Wikelman

9. Yorke

10. Perales

11. Meidroth

12. Romero

13. Drohan

14. Zanetello

15. Valdez

16. Murphy

17. Walter

18. Hickey

19. Rodriguez Cruz

20. Abreu

21. Jordan

22. Paulino

23. Mata

24. Castro

25. L Guerrero

26. Y Monegro

27. C Coffey

28. D Hamilton

29. I Coffey

30. G Gambrell

 

[moonslav59]

Much has been said about the lack of good pitching in our farm system. No top picks have been used on pitchers in a while. That seems to support the idea that we are not focusing enough resources on pitching.

 

The recent additions to the big club have brightened things a bit. Some came via trade (Winkowski), some came via Rule 5 (Whitlock), some came in other ways (Schreiber, Bernardino and others,) and some came from DD's farm, like Bello, Crawford, Murphy and Walter.

 

Here is a quick look at some still on the farm, listed in order of SP's rankings. (Note: I am no expert on prospects.)

 

6. Drohan has struggled in AAA, after looking great in AA. He did okay in his last start, but has a ways to go to hold the #6 slot. (.751 OPS Against AA/AAA)

 

7. Perales has started pitching well, of late and is a 20 year old in A+. (.621 OPSA)

 

9. Wikelman has pitched very well, recently. He walked 4, tonight, but still did okay. (.618 OPSA)

 

(#11 Walter, #13 Murphy & #47 Jacques may graduate, due to playing in MLB, now.)

 

18. Mata may be activated, this month with Woo. The guy can't stay healthy.

 

19. Rodriguez-Cruz has looked good this year and should rise in the rankings. (.660)

 

25. Guerrero had a tough outing, tonight, but has been decent, this year. (.545)

 

26. Fernandez has struggled and may drop in the rankings, soon. (.685)

 

30. Rogers A+ .676 OPSA

32. Monegro A- amazing .530 OPSA

36. Dobbins AA .600 OPSA

37. Blalock A+ .611 OPSA

40. Bastardo A+ .614 OPSA

41. Hoppe A+ .777

42. Paez A- dropped, last month, but is pitching well, now. (.649)

44. Dean A- .852 is disappointing.

48. Politi AAA

51. Denlinger AAA .598

52. Liu AA has 104K and 41 BB in 83 IP

54. Zeferjahn AA

55. Gambrell AA should move up, a lot. Leads farm in IP

56. I Coffey AA should move up, too. (.678 OPSA)

57. J Ramirez A- (.655)

Luis de la Rosa A- (.627)

Jonathan Brand A- .418

Elvis Soto FCL/A- .542

Nathanael Cruz A- .567

 

Please feel free to add comments on any of these guys.

 

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Much has been said about the lack of good pitching in our farm system. No top picks have been used on pitchers in a while. That seems to support the idea that we are not focusing enough resources on pitching.

 

The recent additions to the big club have brightened things a bit. Some came via trade (Winkowski), some came via Rule 5 (Whitlock), some came in other ways (Schreiber, Bernardino and others,) and some came from DD's farm, like Bello, Crawford, Murphy and Walter.

 

Here is a quick look at some still on the farm, listed in order of SP's rankings. (Note: I am no expert on prospects.)

 

6. Drohan has struggled in AAA, after looking great in AA. He did okay in his last start, but has a ways to go to hold the #6 slot. (.751 OPS Against AA/AAA)

 

7. Perales has started pitching well, of late and is a 20 year old in A+. (.621 OPSA)

 

9. Wikelman has pitched very well, recently. He walked 4, tonight, but still did okay. (.618 OPSA)

 

(#11 Walter, #13 Murphy & #47 Jacques may graduate, due to playing in MLB, now.)

 

18. Mata may be activated, this month with Woo. The guy can't stay healthy.

 

19. Rodriguez-Cruz has looked good this year and should rise in the rankings. (.660)

 

25. Guerrero had a tough outing, tonight, but has been decent, this year. (.545)

 

26. Fernandez has struggled and may drop in the rankings, soon. (.685)

 

30. Rogers A+ .676 OPSA

32. Monegro A- amazing .530 OPSA

36. Dobbins AA .600 OPSA

37. Blalock A+ .611 OPSA

40. Bastardo A+ .614 OPSA

41. Hoppe A+ .777

42. Paez A- dropped, last month, but is pitching well, now. (.649)

44. Dean A- .852 is disappointing.

48. Politi AAA

51. Denlinger AAA .598

52. Liu AA has 104K and 41 BB in 83 IP

54. Zeferjahn AA

55. Gambrell AA should move up, a lot. Leads farm in IP

56. I Coffey AA should move up, too. (.678 OPSA)

57. J Ramirez A- (.655)

Luis de la Rosa A- (.627)

Jonathan Brand A- .418

Elvis Soto FCL/A- .542

Nathanael Cruz A- .567

 

Please feel free to add comments on any of these guys.

 

 

Where will Noah Song fit in? Philly DFAed him...

[moonslav59]

Where will Noah Song fit in? Philly DFAed him...

 

Think of all the worry that Bloom got fleeced.

[Bellhorn04]

Think of all the worry that Bloom got fleeced.

 

It appears he didn't get fleeced, but it might still be questionable protecting Ort, Brasier and Hamilton over Song.

[moonslav59]

It appears he didn't get fleeced, but it might still be questionable protecting Ort, Brasier and Hamilton over Song.

 

Certainly, yes.

 

We may still end up with Song.

 

The Ward loss seemed worse, at the time, but he is pretty much forgotten, now- in hindsight.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

It appears he didn't get fleeced, but it might still be questionable protecting Ort, Brasier and Hamilton over Song.

 

And most of us who watched the pitching staff last year weren't as concerned over losing Song (who Dombro took a shot on), but Thad Ward -- who the Nats immediately took with the first overall pick...

 

Ward, now on the IL, maybe wasn't ready for the Show, but certainly had more promise than the trio you listed, among others that Bloom protected instead.

[moonslav59]

And most of us who watched the pitching staff last year weren't as concerned over losing Song (who Dombro took a shot on), but Thad Ward -- who the Nats immediately took with the first overall pick...

 

Ward, now on the IL, maybe wasn't ready for the Show, but certainly had more promise than the trio you listed, among others that Bloom protected instead.

 

The one time Bloom seemed to care more about 2023 over the extended future, and he can't live it down.

[Bellhorn04]

The one time Bloom seemed to care more about 2023 over the extended future, and he can't live it down.

 

Maybe because it showed a peculiar inconsistency.

 

Or that Ort, Brasier and Hamilton aren't much of a hill to die on, as the saying goes.

[moonslav59]

Maybe because it showed a peculiar inconsistency.

 

Or that Ort, Brasier and Hamilton aren't much of a hill to die on, as the saying goes.

 

As it turned out, we needed a SS slot on the 40- maybe not DHam, but to me, it was never Ward v DHam.

 

I have no beef with Ort and Brasier points. They both were more ML ready and likely to help (and yes hurt, too) in 2023 than Ward.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

As it turned out, we needed a SS slot on the 40- maybe not DHam, but to me, it was never Ward v DHam.

 

I have no beef with Ort and Brasier points. They both were more ML ready and likely to help (and yes hurt, too) in 2023 than Ward.

 

Geez, Moon, do you really think Washington would've snapped up 35-year old Ryan Brasier with the first pick of the Rule V draft if he was available to keep them out of last place?

 

Bloom can't live it down because pitching is always the number one problem in Boston, especially developing pitching in the farm system, and there's no arguing that point -- no matter how many retreads he claims on waiver wires. And no one cares how old Ward was, he was still a mound prospect...

[moonslav59]

Geez, Moon, do you really think Washington would've snapped up 35-year old Ryan Brasier with the first pick of the Rule V draft if he was available to keep them out of last place?

 

Bloom can't live it down because pitching is always the number one problem in Boston, especially developing pitching in the farm system, and there's no arguing that point -- no matter how many retreads he claims on waiver wires. And no one cares how old Ward was, he was still a mound prospect...

 

I said I was always fine losing Brasier and Ort.

 

Bloom chose two 2023 options over the future.

 

BTW, someone did snag Brasier. Lol!

[Larry Cook]

As it turned out, we needed a SS slot on the 40- maybe not DHam, but to me, it was never Ward v DHam.

 

I have no beef with Ort and Brasier points. They both were more ML ready and likely to help (and yes hurt, too) in 2023 than Ward.

 

Hindsight is 20-20, but not keeping ward was a head scratcher

[notin]

As it turned out, we needed a SS slot on the 40- maybe not DHam, but to me, it was never Ward v DHam.

 

I have no beef with Ort and Brasier points. They both were more ML ready and likely to help (and yes hurt, too) in 2023 than Ward.

 

The Sox didn’t need to dedicate any 40 man roster spots to any position in December. In fact, they added multiple shortstops after the Rule 5 draft, including Mondesi, Chang and Reyes.

 

However, what is lost in all this of award hasn’t been very good, and has secretly been worse than Ort. Certainly he’s young (albeit not that young) and could improve. But so far, he’s not someone I miss. Much like most NL East bats…

[moonslav59]

The Sox didn’t need to dedicate any 40 man roster spots to any position in December. In fact, they added multiple shortstops after the Rule 5 draft, including Mondesi, Chang and Reyes.

 

However, what is lost in all this of award hasn’t been very good, and has secretly been worse than Ort. Certainly he’s young (albeit not that young) and could improve. But so far, he’s not someone I miss. Much like most NL East bats…

 

Reyes was added after the season started. Mondesi was known to be starting on the IL.

 

The fact that we added SSs after Rule 5, makes it more understandable they protected DHam, not less.

 

I was all for protecting Ward over Brasier and Ort. I was okay with DHam's protection, because I assumed they thought of him as ML depth. He did get called up, but he did not earn a stay.

 

I was just saying what I felt the Sox reasoning was- not that I agreed with them, on this.

[mvp 78]

Reyes was added after the season started. Mondesi was known to be starting on the IL.

 

The fact that we added SSs after Rule 5, makes it more understandable they protected DHam, not less.

 

I was all for protecting Ward over Brasier and Ort. I was okay with DHam's protection, because I assumed they thought of him as ML depth. He did get called up, but he did not earn a stay.

 

I was just saying what I felt the Sox reasoning was- not that I agreed with them, on this.

 

They protected Hamilton because of the change in the game in regards to base stealing, not due to where he plays defensively. It's well known that he's not a very good SS and that he wasn't really going to be an option for BOS at that position. They were already looking at moving him off position or making him a UTIL last year.

[moonslav59]

They protected Hamilton because of the change in the game in regards to base stealing, not due to where he plays defensively. It's well known that he's not a very good SS and that he wasn't really going to be an option for BOS at that position. They were already looking at moving him off position or making him a UTIL last year.

 

True, but they probably also felt they needed MI depth that was ML ready.

 

Again, I'd have kept Ward over 3-4 players we chose to protect.

[mvp 78]

True, but they probably also felt they needed MI depth that was ML ready.

 

Again, I'd have kept Ward over 3-4 players we chose to protect.

 

If that was the case, they would have used Hamilton sooner than they actually did this year. Right?

[moonslav59]

If that was the case, they would have used Hamilton sooner than they actually did this year. Right?

 

I thought so, and wondered why, at the time.

[mvp 78]

@SoxProspects

Stanley Tucker, the Red Sox 19th round pick in the 2023 draft, is playing center field and leading off for the FCL Red Sox today marking him as the first member of this year's draft class to get in the lineup.

[mvp 78]

Alex Hoppe promoted to POR.

[Larry Cook]

Alex Hoppe promoted to POR.

 

He throws hard! But usually in the middle of the plate

[mvp 78]

After walking his first 3 AB's, Rafaela hits his 8th HR in the 4th AB this afternoon. Fun!

[mvp 78]

He throws hard! But usually in the middle of the plate

 

@SoxProspects

Alex Hoppe with a strikeout in a 1-2-3 eighth inning in his Double-A debut.

[mvp 78]

Abreu throws out the tying run at home in the 8th inning.

[mvp 78]

Abreu throws out the tying run at home in the 8th inning.

 

WOO won the game because of this play and I love the spiked ball by Stephen Scott.

 

Rafaela went 1 for 1 with a HR, SB, 1 OF assist and 4 BB's

Scott went 2 for 5 with a HR, 3 RBI and 1 spiked baseball

Abreu went 3 for 5 with 2 RBI, SB and 2 OF assists

 

Three golden stars right there...

[Larry Cook]

WOO won the game because of this play and I love the spiked ball by Stephen Scott.

 

Rafaela went 1 for 1 with a HR, SB, 1 OF assist and 4 BB's

Scott went 2 for 5 with a HR, 3 RBI and 1 spiked baseball

Abreu went 3 for 5 with 2 RBI, SB and 2 OF assists

 

Three golden stars right there...

 

I like scott a lot! He seems to make plays when the team needs them!

[moonslav59]

That was quite a game from Rafaela, Abreu & Scott. Woo drew 11 BBs. Woo is now 7 games over .500.

Woo is in 3rd place in a 10 team league, but they are 0.5 GM Durham (TBR.)

 

POR won 3-0 and is 16 games over .500.

POR is in 2nd place, 2 GB Somerset (NYY.) 2nd best record in 12 team league.

 

GRE won 6-5 to go 4 over .500.

Perales K'd 10 in 5 IP (4H, 0ER, 3BB)

Anthony went 3 for 4 with a BB, 1B, 2B and 3B.

Paulino went 3-4, too.

GRE has the second best record in their A+ league.

 

SAL lost 7-1 to go 5 under .500.

 

The FCL Red Sox are 22-16 (4th place out of 16)

 

The DSL Blue are 20-20 (22nd out of 50 teams)

 

Red is 19-21 (30th)

 

 

Edited August 3, 2023 by moonslav59