Robot Umps?!

[Elktonnick]

What year was it when you started to phase out? I believe they had instant replay back in the 80's then went away from it and then went back to it.

I spent most of the 80s overseas. By the time I returned football became less interesting. Quite frankly I find the NFL now intensely boring. I began to follow Rugby Union. After becoming a Rugby Union fan American football is truly dull as dishwater.

[Bellhorn04]

I spent most of the 80s overseas. By the time I returned football became less interesting. Quite frankly I find the NFL now intensely boring. I began to follow Rugby Union. After becoming a Rugby Union fan American football is truly dull as dishwater.

 

So you just don't like American football. It's got little to do with the replays.

[moonslav59]

So you just don't like American football. It's got little to do with the replays.

 

I go to live football games, and several times a game, I'm thinking, "I wish I was home watching on TV, so I could see the replay on that one."

[Bellhorn04]

I go to live football games, and several times a game, I'm thinking, "I wish I was home watching on TV, so I could see the replay on that one."

 

Right. Just like with baseball, in football sometimes it's humanly impossible to get the call right without replay.

[moonslav59]

Right. Just like with baseball, in football sometimes it's humanly impossible to get the call right without replay.

 

I thought we were done with this subject?

 

LOL

[Bellhorn04]

I thought we were done with this subject?

 

LOL

 

Yeah, I guess I'm not done. But I do mean to be more respectful to those who don't want the robo calls. I understand their position. I'm traditionalist about some things too.

[mvp 78]

I go to live football games, and several times a game, I'm thinking, "I wish I was home watching on TV, so I could see the replay on that one."

 

The only football that is better in person is if you are at a top tier division 1 college game with a good crowd.

[mvp 78]

Yeah, I guess I'm not done. But I do mean to be more respectful to those who don't want the robo calls. I understand their position. I'm traditionalist about some things too.

 

You wouldn't dunk your pizza in ranch then?

[Bellhorn04]

You wouldn't dunk your pizza in ranch then?

 

Food is definitely one of the things I'm traditionalist about.

[moonslav59]

The only football that is better in person is if you are at a top tier division 1 college game with a good crowd.

 

Exactly. The enthusiasm is off the charts.

[Elktonnick]

So you just don't like American football. It's got little to do with the replays.

No I became disenchanted with football because of replays.

[Elktonnick]

Right. Just like with baseball, in football sometimes it's humanly impossible to get the call right without replay.

Life does not work that way. Why should the games we play?

[a700hitter]

I would say that I think parents were more forgiving to the younger umps. I heard much more griping when other coaches were umping.

In Brooklyn, the parents cut little slack to the kid umpires. They would argue with an infant ump.

[Bellhorn04]

Life does not work that way. Why should the games we play?

 

Sorry, but life does work that way. The NFL is still a pretty healthy operation financially, as far as I can tell.

[notin]

Life does not work that way. Why should the games we play?

 

Life absolutely works that way. Didn't you watch "Long Shot" on Netflix?

[mvp 78]

No I became disenchanted with football because of replays.

 

Ok, but this wasn't the 85-92 original replay system (2-3 replays per game). It was after it was re-rolled out in 1999. The past few years, the replays have been about 1.5 per game. Is your problem the reviewing of all turnovers and scoring plays?

 

Did this happen in the past 5 years?

[Elktonnick]

Sorry, but life does work that way. The NFL is still a pretty healthy operation financially, as far as I can tell.

Again you miss the point. We do not get instant replay in our daily interactions with life. Cops, soldiers in combat etc do not have the benefit of instant replay for example.

[moonslav59]

Again you miss the point. We do not get instant replay in our daily interactions with life. Cops, soldiers in combat etc do not have the benefit of instant replay for example.

 

Body Cams on cops?

[Elktonnick]

There are way too many stoppages in American football. It has become tedious to watch.

[Elktonnick]

Body Cams on cops?

 

The cops do not get to see the footage before making a decision.

[notin]

The cops do not get to see the footage before making a decision.

 

The courts do…

[Elktonnick]

The courts do…

 

Apples and oranges. Courts do not make instant decisions, court proceedings are meant to be deliberative and time consuming.

[notin]

Apples and oranges. Courts do not make instant decisions, court proceedings are meant to be deliberative and time consuming.

 

If the court system was scheduled to wrap everything up by 3PM CST every Sunday, they would move faster.

 

Really the argument that NFL refs shouldn’t get to use instant replay because cops don’t is completely silly. Go back to the slippery slope arguments

[Elktonnick]

If the court system was scheduled to wrap everything up by 3PM CST every Sunday, they would move faster.

 

Really the argument that NFL refs shouldn’t get to use instant replay because cops don’t is completely silly. Go back to the slippery slope arguments

Talk about distorting what I wrote and getting everything ass backwards.

As I said we don't get to use instant replay in our daily interactions. We don't get mulligans except on the golf course and that is not kosher.

 

I lost interest in the NFL because of its increased use of technology and the resulting increased stoppages of play. I really do not give damn what the NFL does because I have lost all interest in professional football. If the NFL wants to go to Robo refs more power to them. I could care less.

[Bellhorn04]

Talk about distorting what I wrote and getting everything ass backwards.

As I said we don't get to use instant replay in our daily interactions.

 

Sure we do. You can post something here, look at it and decide you don't like it, and delete it. When you leave someone a message on voice mail you can record one, listen to it and decide if you like it or want to re-record it.

 

Just a couple of quick examples that come to mind.

[Elktonnick]

Not the same. What you wrote stays in the computer and cyberspace. Deleting a pre recorded message is nothing different from erasing message written on paper. In both cases there is a record, there is an effect of the original action despite how one tries to undo it. My point there are no do overs in life.

[Bellhorn04]

Not the same. What you wrote stays in the computer and cyberspace. Deleting a pre recorded message is nothing different from erasing message written on paper. In both cases there is a record, there is an effect of the original action despite how one tries to undo it. My point there are no do overs in life.

 

Instant replay doesn't do the play over, it just reviews the accuracy of the call.

 

And robo umps obviously make the call in real time.

[Kimmi]

Kimmi, the argument in this case is that the player should still be safe if he "momentarily" separates from the bag after hitting it. The fact that it even happens was only detected by high-resolution ultra-slow-mo and stop-action video. The equipment of baseball cleats and bags are not designed for perfect adhesion. Plus others have said the 'safe space' should extend upward from the bag like a hologram or something.

 

What's the current rule? If the player comes of the bag with the tag still on he's out. If high-resolution ultra slow mo can catch that, why shouldn't it be used?

 

I'm just having a problem with the argument that we should used technology to get balls and strikes calls 100% right because the technology is available, yet we don't want to use technology to get the other calls right.

[Kimmi]

Are we really adding holograms to baseball? C'mon man.

 

Let's just get an automated strike zone and go from there. I don't think there need to be any other adjustments right now except for adding the orange bag next to 1b. I'm all for that.

 

It's okay to cost a team some possible runs by getting other calls wrong?

[Kimmi]

Then staying glued to 2b and 3b is part of the rules.

 

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