A Realistic View at 2022: Part I

[mvp 78]

Well don’t forget JBJ is currently on a contract written by another GM…

 

That contract was notably written BEFORE he had a -0.8 fWAR season with a 35 WRC+.

[moonslav59]

That contract was notably written BEFORE he had a -0.8 fWAR season with a 35 WRC+.

 

True, but also after putting up a 93 OPS+ in his previous 4 seasons.

[cp176]

it doesn't smell like a move that bloom would have taken bringing JBJ back at that cost but if he is willing to do that than I would think that anything is possible when looking at Devers, Bogaerts, and Story.

[notin]

Notin’s 28 Man Roster

 

C: Vazquez, Plawecki, Wong (Wong has experience at C, 2b, 3b and OF. Keeping him allows for pinch hitting for a catcher and still having an option due to injury.)

INF: Dalbec, Story, Bogaerts, Devers, Arroyo, Shaw

OF: Verdugo, E Hernandez, Bradley, Martinez

SP: Eovaldi, Pivetta, Hill, Wacha, Houck

BP: Whitlock, Barnes, Brasier, Sawamura, Diekman, D Hernandez, Strahm, Davis, Robles, Taylor

 

Sale to 60 day IL. Still need to DFA one player…

Edited March 28, 2022 by notin

[mvp 78]

Notin’s 28 Man Roster

 

C: Vazquez, Plawecki, Wong (Wong has experience at C, 2b, 3b and OF. Keeping him allows for pinch hitting for a catcher and still having an option due to injury.)

INF: Dalbec, Story, Bogaerts, Devers, Arroyo, Shaw

OF: Verdugo, E Hernandez, Bradley, Martinez

SP: Eovaldi, Pivetta, Hill, Wacha, Houck

BP: Whitlock, Barnes, Brasier, Sawamura, Diekman, D Hernandez, Strahm, Davis, Robles, Taylor

 

Sale to 60 day IL. Still need to DFA one player…

 

Valdez or Arauz

[moonslav59]

Notin’s 28 Man Roster

 

C: Vazquez, Plawecki, Wong (Wong has experience at C, 2b, 3b and OF. Keeping him allows for pinch hitting for a catcher and still having an option due to injury.)

INF: Dalbec, Story, Bogaerts, Devers, Arroyo, Shaw

OF: Verdugo, E Hernandez, Bradley, Martinez

SP: Eovaldi, Pivetta, Hill, Wacha, Houck

BP: Whitlock, Barnes, Brasier, Sawamura, Diekman, D Hernandez, Strahm, Davis, Robles, Taylor

 

Sale to 60 day IL. Still need to DFA one player…

 

Bazardo or Garza?

[notin]

Bazardo or Garza?

 

Over Robles?

 

The real issue to me was Wong over Fitzgerald or Arausz…

[notin]

Valdez or Arauz

 

Both have an option.

 

I could see Arausz over Wong. Not sure Valdez or Bazardo make sense over Robles…

[moonslav59]

Over Robles?

 

The real issue to me was Wong over Fitzgerald or Arausz…

 

No, who gets DFA'd?

[Bellhorn04]

No, who gets DFA'd?

 

I predict they will have a Z in their last name.

[moonslav59]

I predict they will have a Z in their last name.

 

Lots of Zs to work with.

 

It won't be Vaz, Mart'z, D Hern'z or Valdez.

 

Bazardo or Graza is my bet.

[SCM33]

Both have an option.

 

I could see Arausz over Wong. Not sure Valdez or Bazardo make sense over Robles…

 

Thought I saw that Wong was already optioned?

[Kimmi]

Cora said one area they need to improve upon is speed and running the bases. Somehow, I don't think that means the Sox are going to make guys like JD run the hills in full pads at the end of every practice in Florida.

 

You alluded to this in your previous post - base stealers are more valuable in front of singles hitters. If we're looking to improve run production via the steal, Story would do more good hitting after the big boppers.

[Kimmi]

There are a lot of possibilities. I think most if not all agree the bottom 4 are pretty much etched in stone with Verdugo-Dalbec-Vazquez-Bradley, at least vs RHP. The top 5 spots offer numerous acceptable options with varying pros and cons…

 

I tend to argue batting line up as much as others, especially when Cora put Kike in the leadoff spot last year, but it bears repeating that it really just doesn't make that much difference. The pros of putting a batter in a certain spot is mostly offset by the cons of not having him elsewhere.

[SCM33]

You alluded to this in your previous post - base stealers are more valuable in front of singles hitters. If we're looking to improve run production via the steal, Story would do more good hitting after the big boppers.

 

Base stealers arent very valuable at all when someone like Chaim Bloom......or most of baseballs new upstart GM's, FOM's, CFO's are running the team.

[Kimmi]

I bet two run sacrifice fly is rarer than a no hitter.

 

Good stuff.

[Kimmi]

Base stealers arent very valuable at all when someone like Chaim Bloom......or most of baseballs new upstart GM's, FOM's, CFO's are running the team.

 

I'm 100% with you (or with the upstart GMs). I have said for years that base stealing is overrated. Speed is not overrated, however.

[moonslav59]

Any moves made, today?

 

Yesterday:

 

Optioned Ronaldo Hernández, Connor Wong, and Jarren Duran to Worcester

 

Reassigned Roldani Baldwin, Kole Cottam, Ryan Fitzgerald, Roberto Ramos, Silvino Bracho, Taylor Cole, Michael Feliz, Darin Gillies, Geoff Hartlieb, and Zack Kelly to minor league camp

[iortiz]

Regardless the lineup JD has to bat 5th.

 

Said that, I guess Story will hit 4th but in my book should leadoff.

 

He is not a 1-4 bat anymore in may book, plus we have better 1-4 options right now.

[notin]

Base stealers arent very valuable at all when someone like Chaim Bloom......or most of baseballs new upstart GM's, FOM's, CFO's are running the team.

 

Are they more valuable than pitching, hitting and fielding?

[Bellhorn04]

He is not a 1-4 bat anymore in may book, plus we have better 1-4 options right now.

 

He was second on the team in OPS last year.

[moonslav59]

He was second on the team in OPS last year.

 

The 5 slot is actually a highly valued slot- more so than #3 or #4.

[Bellhorn04]

The 5 slot is actually a highly valued slot- more so than #3 or #4.

 

Yep. I don't think that's what iortiz means, though.

[moonslav59]

Yep. I don't think that's what iortiz means, though.

 

Sometimes, it's hard to know.

 

They should be the faves to win the east, IMO.

[Bellhorn04]

Sometimes, it's hard to know.

 

They should be the faves to win the east, IMO.

 

Now you're mixing up posts about JD and the Jays.

[mvp 78]

Now you're mixing up posts about JD and the Jays.

 

Nope, moon says JD and the Sox should be faves to win the East, IHO.

[iortiz]

He was second on the team in OPS last year.

 

Because of April/March. He had 4 so-so months and showing clearly, that he is declining.

 

He is not an elite 3-4 bat anymore.

[mvp 78]

Because of April/March. He had 4 so-so months and showing clearly, that he is declining.

 

He is not an elite 3-4 bat anymore.

 

May - Oct:

806 OPS, 111 WRC+

 

He was Anthony Rizzo for the remainder of the season. Ok?

[mvp 78]

Kiké had a 110 WRC+. Should he not be the leadoff hitter?

[mvp 78]

If the Sox replaced JD in 2023 with Trey Mancini, that'd still be a downgrade right?