trade deadline

[moonslav59]

I don't see anyone wanting to pay Perez or Richards at this point. Any team that is out of contention is just going to piecemeal a rotation together. They have no incentive to add Richards or Perez.

 

If we pay most of their contracts, and teams will take them both.

[mvp 78]

@NBCSEdgeBB

Red Sox, Cubs have discussed 1B Anthony Rizzo

[mvp 78]

If we pay most of their contracts, and teams will take them both.

 

Why would they?

[moonslav59]

tricky thing about Rizzo is that he is a rental ...

 

Now, he has been down in 2020-21, but has also been a 4-win player as recently as 2019. His Statcast batted ball stats have not actually changed. He is still hitting it hard and squaring the ball as ever. His BABIP numbers have been silly outliers for his career that do not really square with his actual contact.

 

Dalbec's issue entirely about hitting the baseball on offense at least.

 

Rizzo is a costly deal and I'm not saying we should do it. But he's a good player and would be a huge upgrade at the position we are league worst at.

 

At his age, I'm not sure being a 4 win player 2 years ago matters all that much.

 

I do think he might do better than his 20-21 numbers, but there is probably a better chance he continues decline.

 

Now, we'd have him for 2 months, so no decline should be that quick.

 

He turns 32 in 10 days.

[moonslav59]

Why would they?

 

Have you seen some of these contender's 4 and 5 starters?

 

Yes, Perez and Richards haved sucked recently, but theirs have sucked all year and longer, and most GMs don't look at just your recent 6-8 starts to definitively value anybody.

 

Then, there are GMs and organizations who think they see a tweak they can make to a pitcher to improve them.

 

I'm talking about paying maybe all but a bit more than minimum wage to the other team.

 

You do know we signed Richards for $10M after not showing he was healthy for like 6 years. Now he's healthy.

 

We signed Perez to $6M after some pretty awful numbers in 2020.

 

It's not like GMs don't ever add marginally better players.

 

I'm not looking for anything in return. We could even do an Ottavinoe type trade or two to lessen the amount of money we'd pay:

 

Richards and Rosario for $2M or less in salary relief.

 

Perez, Wilson and Potts for $1.5M or less in salary relief.

[moonslav59]

@NBCSEdgeBB

Red Sox, Cubs have discussed 1B Anthony Rizzo

 

Breaking news?

[mvp 78]

Breaking news?

 

idk, I feel like I've posted it before, but I saw it again in my feed.

[mvp 78]

Breaking news?

 

Rizzo is not in today's lineup.

[Swiharts Ghost]

Seriously WTF is Chaim waiting for This guy is getting OWNED in this trade deadline FFS .

[mvp 78]

Seriously WTF is Chaim waiting for This guy is getting OWNED in this trade deadline FFS .

 

How many teams have more wins this year than the Sox?

[Swiharts Ghost]

How many teams have more wins this year than the Sox?

 

Are you this dense?????? So we don’t need to upgrade 1B ? Shut the f*** up,

[mvp 78]

Are you this dense?????? So we don’t need to upgrade 1B ? Shut the f*** up,

 

How many teams have more wins this year than the Sox?

[d-money]

I would love scherzer but i hate giving up the farm for a guy that’s 37. His age should come into play when it comes to trading big time prospects. You’re basically trading young guys for a great old guy.

[mvp 78]

I would love scherzer but i hate giving up the farm for a guy that’s 37. His age should come into play when it comes to trading big time prospects. You’re basically trading young guys for a great old guy.

 

And he can veto any trade. He probably won't come here because he's demanding an extension. Better to let him get traded and try to sign him in FA this offseason? I guess it just depends on the prospect package. Not sure Downs does it.

[Nick]

Swihat Ghost needs to quit watching the Titanic. Not every ship goes down....

 

But I am THE one that freaked out about Kike leading off......geez what was I thinking?

[Nick]

Cole gave up 8 runs today.....He still looks good to me but he can be scored on....

[moonslav59]

Who wants Richards and or Perez (as long as we pay a sizable chunk of their deal?

 

Mets have 5 pitchers on the 60 day IL and 1 on the 10 day.

Phillies have Eflin on the IL and their bottom 3 starters are:

Velazquez 5.54/1.431, M Moore 6.46/1.652, C Anderson 6.98/1.550.

Braves have 4 guys on the IL and some sketchy starters.

Dodgers need starters, but they won't go that low.

The A's just added Jesus Luzardo 6.87/1.632.

The Mariners might see an upgrade, since they have 2 guys over 5.48.

[oldtimer]

I'm betting Bloom trades for a first baseman not named Rizzo or it would have been done by now. I think Moon is right and that we trade away assets not intended for 2022 to get salary relief. In addition, I don't think he gets Scherzer, but instead goes for a solid reliever.

[d-money]

Cole gave up 8 runs today.....He still looks good to me but he can be scored on....

 

Funny how the rays decided to show up today but not the first two games.

[d-money]

If Wheeler was available i would give up the prospects. Not sure with scherzer.

[Swiharts Ghost]

Do we trade Erod To make room for a Berrios ? And really what is Erods worth as a rental with issues .

[moonslav59]

Scherzer's last Nats start:

 

6 IP

3 hits

1 ER

3 BB

5 Ks

 

Probably and hopefully west coast bound.

[Larry Cook]

Scherzer's last Nats start:

 

6 IP

3 hits

1 ER

3 BB

5 Ks

 

Probably and hopefully west coast bound.

 

I agree, he would look really good on the west coast!

[d-money]

Scherzer's last Nats start:

 

6 IP

3 hits

1 ER

3 BB

5 Ks

 

Probably and hopefully west coast bound.

 

Just hope it ain’t the dodgers. Sick of them already.

[notin]

Seriously WTF is Chaim waiting for This guy is getting OWNED in this trade deadline FFS .

 

Not like he can make trades all by himself…

[Bellhorn04]

Cole gave up 8 runs today.....He still looks good to me but he can be scored on....

 

He's not the same since the crackdown. He's had some Cole-like games, but his overall numbers are nowhere near as good.

[Swiharts Ghost]

Not like he can make trades all by himself…

 

I’m a bit more irrational today not feeling great ..apologies to MVP

[notin]

If Wheeler was available i would give up the prospects. Not sure with scherzer.

 

Philadelphia is not out of anything.

 

Their remaining schedule is relatively easy and Fangraphs has them winning the NL East…

[notin]

Per Rotoworld, the Padres are close on Scherzer…

[notin]

Per Rotoworld, the Padres are close on Scherzer…

 

And Anthony Franco of MLBTR scooped me by mere seconds on this…