The Pesky Rays Won't Go Away

[notin]

Not sure why the bonehead Manfred just refuses to enforce an existing pitch clock rule (5.07©)that would have solved his biggest issue, and instead has just butchered the game beyond recognition.

 

I imagine by season’s end, Manfred’s poor decisions and attempts to fix them will end up with MLB banning balls and bats altogether, and teams will be forced to resort to rock-paper-scissors to conclude the season and postseason…

[oldtimer]

All you guys just love to have things to complain about.

[Bellhorn04]

All you guys just love to have things to complain about.

 

In this case it's the Rays pitcher Glasnow who is complaining, and some of us agree with him.

[dgalehouse]

Now we are going to keep seeing this predictable reaction : Every time a pitcher gets hit hard , we will hear " He must have been using something before ."

[moonslav59]

Now we are going to keep seeing this predictable reaction : Every time a pitcher gets hit hard , we will hear " He must have been using something before ."

 

Isn't this just what baseball needs smack in the middle of a season?

[dgalehouse]

Isn't this just what baseball needs smack in the middle of a season?

 

MLB could write the book: " How to alienate your employees, your supporters and the general public ".

[TylerD]

And the Sox are only one game behind

 

AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

Anyway…..

[mvp 78]

MLB could write the book: " How to alienate your employees, your supporters and the general public ".

 

This is the way.

[moonslav59]

MLB could write the book: " How to alienate your employees, your supporters and the general public ".

 

As if making bad moves is not bad enough, their timing is horrific.

 

We all know this was yet another knee-jerk reaction to the drop in offense. The constant tinkering is going to kill this game.

 

All they had to do was enforce the pitch clock and start a home plate robo ump system, and we'd have been fine.

[mvp 78]

All they had to do was enforce the pitch clock and start a home plate robo ump system, and we'd have been fine.

 

It's a start.

[moonslav59]

It's a start.

 

My guess is not much will need to be changed after those two.

[moonslav59]

Back to the pesky Rays:

 

They have not lost two in a row since May 11-12, until last night.

 

They have only lost 3 in a row, twice, and 4 in a row once, this year- all back in April.

 

Maybe, this is the start of a losing stretch, which can and has happened.

 

They started the season off by going 13-15, but since May 1st had gone 30-9 before these last 2 loses.

 

They play at SEA for the next 4 days and then have a day off before hosting the Sox at home for 3.

[notin]

MLB could write the book: " How to alienate your employees, your supporters and the general public ".

 

Will Manfred be collaborating with Jeff Bezos on this?

[notin]

I have the solution for everything.

 

Send Manfred on the space trip with Jeff Bezos. And then leave them both there…

[mvp 78]

I have the solution for everything.

 

Send Manfred on the space trip with Jeff Bezos. And then leave them both there…

 

2 men enter, no man leaves.

[moonslav59]

I have the solution for everything.

 

Send Manfred on the space trip with Jeff Bezos. And then leave them both there…

 

How many more clowns can we fit on that ship?

 

I have a few more names.

[harmony]

Back to the pesky Rays:

 

They have not lost two in a row since May 11-12, until last night.

 

They have only lost 3 in a row, twice, and 4 in a row once, this year- all back in April.

 

Maybe, this is the start of a losing stretch, which can and has happened.

 

They started the season off by going 13-15, but since May 1st had gone 30-9 before these last 2 loses.

 

They play at SEA for the next 4 days and then have a day off before hosting the Sox at home for 3.

Time for the Rays to feast ... or not.

[moonslav59]

Time for the Rays to feast ... or not.

 

I'm rooting for your guys!

 

Don't jinx this!

 

 

[moonslav59]

Here are some example of players the Rays have acquired over the years, who end up having a career year or more with them. Please feel free to add more names. An equally long list could be complied of very good Rays players that were traded, sometimes in or before their prime, who went on to stink for their new teams, including Carl Crawford, Archer, Kazmir, Cobb, Odorizzi and now, apparently Blake Snell.

 

Carlos Pena

.789 in 7 seasons prior to TB

1.037 in 2007 (a year after playing for the Sox at .776)

.871 in 2008

.893 in 2009

He dropped off after those 3 seasons (.723) with some being with the Rays.

 

Jason Bartlett

.702 with MN in 5 seasons (only one over .700)

.879 the second year with the Rays in 2009 (.752 in 3 years.)

.591 with the Padres after being traded to them for 4 prospects in 2010.

 

Rafael Soriano

2.92/1.037 WHIP in 8 good seasons before TB

1.73/0.802 in one season with TB (2010)

2.94/1.215 in 2 years with the Yanks

3.15/1.181 in 2 yrs with WSH after NYY

3.13/1.206 total after leaving TB

 

Steve Pearce

.756 from 2007-2015

.729 w BAL in 2016

.908 w TB in 2016

.768 after leaving the Rays, although he did very well in 2018 TOR/BOS

 

Logan Morrison (L0ts of 1Bmen do well in TB)

.742 pre TB

.813 w TBR '16-'17

.636 after TBR

 

Tommy Pham

.828 w STL pre TB

.870 w TBR '18-'19

.695 after TB

 

CJ Cron

.756 LAA

.816 TBR '18

.789 after

 

Travis d'Arnaud

.707 in 7 years with the Mets

.783 in 2019 w Rays

.813 w ATL after

 

Last but not least, another ex Sox...

Casey Kotchman

.717 pre TB, including .572 w BOS in 2009

.800 w TBR in 2011

.589 after and out of baseball in 3 years after leaving (only age 30).

 

[TylerD]

2 men enter, no man leaves.

 

Sounds like the plot to a Van Damme movie.

[mvp 78]

Sounds like the plot to a Van Damme movie.

 

Uh, no.

[notin]

Uh, no.

 

Then how about the attendance at a Van Damme movie?

[Larry Cook]

Sale and houck could be potential august reinforcements,

 

Trade deadline is an opportunity to be buyers before they are ready,

 

Something to consider is we have a bit of a 40 man roster crunch coming up after this season,

[moonslav59]

Sale and houck could be potential august reinforcements,

 

Trade deadline is an opportunity to be buyers before they are ready,

 

Something to consider is we have a bit of a 40 man roster crunch coming up after this season,

 

I don't see a big roster crunch.

 

Ward won't need rule 5 protection.

 

We lose ERod, Barnes, Ottavino, Marwin & Santana and only need 3 replacements: SP, RP, RP. (Two slots gained, there.)

 

The 4-6 Rule 5 players or added FAs can replace any 4 from:

 

Yacksel Rios

Brandon Workman

Matt Andriese (trade or don't enter arb)

Connor Wong (trade?)

Michael Chavis (trade?)

Huson Potts (trade?)

Phillips Valdez (trade?)

 

Now, if Bloom wants to sign 5 free agents instead or 3 bigger ones, we might have a squeeze.

 

Rule 5, this winter:

Jecorrah Arnold

Brayan Bello

Cole Brannen

Gary Calvo

Marco Cardoso

Pedro Castellanos

Felix Cepeda

Kole Cottam

Kutter Crawford

Ricardo Cubillan

Osvaldo De La Rosa

Tyler Dearden

Jonathan Diaz

Danny Diaz

Jeter Downs

Jarren Duran

Tyler Esplin

Durbin Feltman

Ryan Fernandez

Ryan Fitzgerald

Antoni Flores

Frank German

Rio Gomez

Devlin Granberg

Gilberto Jimenez

Jose Larez

Dominic LoBrutto

Bryan Lucas

Charlie Madden

Alan Marrero

Elih Marrero

Joan Martinez

Alexander Montero

Robinson Montero

Oddanier Mosqueda

Brendan Nail

Brett Netzer

Tanner Nishioka

Kaleb Ort

Yusniel Padron-Artiles

Aaron Perry

Beiker Pineda

Antonio Police

AJ Politi

Ceddanne Rafaela

Oscar Rangel

Tyreque Reed

Jesus Rosillo

Yasel Santana

Zach Schellinger

Alex Scherff

John Schreiber

Gregori Segovia

Chase Shugart

Miguel Suero

Jake Thompson

Wilker Vargas

Thaddeus Ward

Grant Williams

Josh Winckowski

[harmony]

I'm rooting for your guys!

 

Don't jinx this!

 

 

At least the Seattle Mariners helped the Red Sox on Thursday night with a walk-off win against the Rays.

[moonslav59]

At least the Seattle Mariners helped the Red Sox on Thursday night with a walk-off win against the Rays.

 

Keep it rollin'

[Nick]

Keep it rollin'

 

As well as Rays have played, we're now only half game back.

 

It'll be interesting to watch our starters pitch going into the All Star break.

 

Is this a trend or bump on the road?

[moonslav59]

As well as Rays have played, we're now only half game back.

 

It'll be interesting to watch our starters pitch going into the All Star break.

 

Is this a trend or bump on the road?

 

We may not be as good as we were before a couple weeks ago, but we can’t keep winning by pitching like this.

[Nick]

We may not be as good as we were before a couple weeks ago, but we can’t keep winning by pitching like this.

 

So the Pesky Rays

 

Since May 1st, Rays had lost back to back games only 3 times before last night, losing for third straight time. Their longest losing streak this year is 4 which came in early April.

 

They had a 11 game winning streak imbedded during their 16-1 run to take over AL East. But they're now only 1/2 game ahead of Sox.

 

It's fun times.

Edited June 18, 2021 by Nick

[moonslav59]

So the Pesky Rays

 

Since May 1st, Rays had lost back to back games only 3 times before last night, losing for third straight times. Their longest losing streak this year is 4 which came in early April.

 

They had a 11 game winning streak imbedded during their 16-1 run to take over AL East. But they're now only 1/2 game ahead of Sox.

 

It's fun times.

 

There is a chance we have the best record in the AL after tonight!

 

Again!