Beni traded to Royals

[Larry Cook]

The three players to be named later are all mid level prospects, but hang’em Chaim appears to have used two of them as boom or bust prospects and the third guy as organizational pitching depth!

[moonslav59]

The three players to be named later are all mid level prospects, but hang’em Chaim appears to have used two of them as boom or bust prospects and the third guy as organizational pitching depth!

 

Cordero wasn't a prospect, and Winckowski looks like he may turn out to be more than just depth.

 

Let's see what we get from KC.

 

[Larry Cook]

Cordero wasn't a prospect, and Winckowski looks like he may turn out to be more than just depth.

 

Let's see what we get from KC.

 

 

I was talking about Valdez, de la Rosa and grimball.

[moonslav59]

I was talking about Valdez, de la Rosa and grimball.

 

Sorry, I just saw the news. Yes, looks like adding some promising pitching depth to the farm.

[moonslav59]

BTV has the following values assigned to the players involved in the trade:

 

3.3 Winckowski

2.4 Valdez

0.7 Gambrell

0.3 Cordero

0.1 de la Rosa

 

8.6 K Lee (to Mets)

 

10.8 Beni (includes cash paid off his contract)

[Larry Cook]

Benintendi with a tater today!

 

Fraunchy in the minors!

[Fan_since_Boggs]

The Red Sox would definitely be a better team this year if they had Benintendi, but the Red Sox will hopefully win the deal long term especially if Winckowski can develop into a quality middle-of-the-rotation starter.

[moonslav59]

The Red Sox would definitely be a better team this year if they had Benintendi, but the Red Sox will hopefully win the deal long term especially if Winckowski can develop into a quality middle-of-the-rotation starter.

 

It’s not “definite” we’d be better. The money saved afforded us Renfroe or Sawamura.

[Bellhorn04]

It’s not “definite” we’d be better. The money saved afforded us Renfroe or Sawamura.

 

Or they just hung onto the money, depending on how you look at it.

[moonslav59]

Or they just hung onto the money, depending on how you look at it.

 

True, especially if we never spend the buffer between us and the tax line.

 

One could alsoview the "savings" as allowing us to sign Marwin or Andriese, which doesn't seem all that great.

[Bellhorn04]

Anyway we're not missing much with Beni. fWAR 0.5 bWAR 1.0 currently on IL

[mvp 78]

Anyway we're not missing much with Beni. fWAR 0.5 bWAR 1.0 currently on IL

 

Fractured rib. He may be out for a while.

[Kimmi]

The Red Sox would definitely be a better team this year if they had Benintendi, but the Red Sox will hopefully win the deal long term especially if Winckowski can develop into a quality middle-of-the-rotation starter.

 

I do not like this trade for this year. However, this trade was made with the long term goals in mind, which I understand. I think the Sox will end up ahead in this deal.

[Kimmi]

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Josh Winckowski with 0 walks, 9 strikeouts and 15 swing and misses yesterday.

 

YTD: 45.2 IP, 3.35 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 4 HR, 44 K, 12 BB, 50% GB

[mvp 78]

Why did the Royals overpay for Beni?

[Bellhorn04]

Why did the Royals overpay for Beni?

 

Good question. Somebody there liked him, I guess.

[mvp 78]

Good question. Somebody there liked him, I guess.

 

[moonslav59]

Why did the Royals overpay for Beni?

 

Are we sure they did?

[notin]

I do not like this trade for this year. However, this trade was made with the long term goals in mind, which I understand. I think the Sox will end up ahead in this deal.

 

It looks like the Sox have replaced Benintendi with Christian Arroyo…

[mvp 78]

Are we sure they did?

 

My statement was in response to this:

 

"Josh Winckowski with 0 walks, 9 strikeouts and 15 swing and misses yesterday.

 

YTD: 45.2 IP, 3.35 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 4 HR, 44 K, 12 BB, 50% GB"

[moonslav59]

My statement was in response to this:

 

"Josh Winckowski with 0 walks, 9 strikeouts and 15 swing and misses yesterday.

 

YTD: 45.2 IP, 3.35 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 4 HR, 44 K, 12 BB, 50% GB"

 

I like the return we got, and maybe Winckowski turns out to be the best part of the trade.

 

It wouldn't surprise me, if KC ends up trading Beni at some point.

[a700hitter]

Benintendi is ripping the cover off the ball. At the time, I said that they sold low on him. And now, it can’t be disputed. The guy is not a superstar, but his talent puts him at the level just below. He will make the All Star team this year and last year he won the GG. But we saved a couple of million. This goes on the negative side of Bloom’s ledger, and I predict that his bringing back Bradley will also goon the negative side.

[moonslav59]

Benintendi is ripping the cover off the ball. At the time, I said that they sold low on him. And now, it can’t be disputed. The guy is not a superstar, but his talent puts him at the level just below. He will make the All Star team this year and last year he won the GG. But we saved a couple of million. This goes on the negative side of Bloom’s ledger, and I predict that his bringing back Bradley will also goon the negative side.

 

One could argue the money saved was obviously used to sign Renfroe, but one could argue Marwin, instead.

[Old Red]

One could argue the money saved was obviously used to sign Renfroe, but one could argue Marwin, instead.

 

Both stupid arguments for a couple million dollars.

[Bellhorn04]

Both stupid arguments for a couple million dollars.

 

Who had the better year last year, Beni or Renfroe?

[mvp 78]

Benintendi is ripping the cover off the ball. At the time, I said that they sold low on him. And now, it can’t be disputed. The guy is not a superstar, but his talent puts him at the level just below. He will make the All Star team this year and last year he won the GG. But we saved a couple of million. This goes on the negative side of Bloom’s ledger, and I predict that his bringing back Bradley will also goon the negative side.

 

High average and OBP, he only has 3 XBH though. His hard hit % is bottom 30% in the league. He's just reduced his k rate and gotten a little lucky (406 BABIP).

[Old Red]

Who had the better year last year, Beni or Renfroe?

 

What does that have to do with the Red Sox worrying about a couple million dollars?

[moonslav59]

Who had the better year last year, Beni or Renfroe?

 

I'd say pretty close.

[Bellhorn04]

What does that have to do with the Red Sox worrying about a couple million dollars?

 

With Verdugo, Kike and Renfroe, where were you going to play Beni last year?

[a700hitter]

With Verdugo, Kike and Renfroe, where were you going to play Beni last year?

They sold low. That’s the point. Very low.