Yankees 2021 Season Thread

[dgalehouse]

From what we have seen of Whitlock , as compared to the guys the Yankees kept, you have to question their ability to judge pitching talent.

[notin]

No matter the sample size, stats can always show where you stand. When I tell my wife she's the best wife I've had this century, it is irrefutable.

 

And right after that, does she tell you where you stand?

[moonslav59]

Right, but what I'm saying is that though pitching and defense have been problems, the main problem is the offense. The Yankees averaged 5.39 runs/gm last year and 5.77 the season before, with largely the same offensive pieces. So far this year it's 3.67. No one expected the Yankees rotation or defense to be top of the league, but the expectation was that the offense would score so many runs that those deficiencies would be covered up.

 

No doubt, your bats have been a big issue and maybe the main one, but don't overlook these numbers:

 

1) Cole (1.82 ERA) and Montgomery (4.24 ERA) have started 7 of your 15 games. That ain't going to continue the rest of the year. That number should go from 47% to about 41 or 42% by the end of the year, assuming neither gets hurt.

 

2) These starters have put your pen and your bats in very tough situation, often very early in games:

 

6.10 Kluber (3 GS/ .971 OPS against)

7.56 Taillon (2 GS/ 1.076)

9.00 German 2 GS/ 1.124)

18.00 Nelson (1 GS1 1.371)

 

That's 53% of you GS'd.

 

Those numbers are as horrific or worse than most of your hitters.

 

PAs Player OPS

60 Torres .552

55 Hicks .476

55 Stanton .609

40 Frasier .472

39 Bruce .466

26 Odor .442

8 Tauchman .286

 

That's 51% of your PAs.

 

I'd argue both are pretty close to being the co-leaders in Yankee weak spots.

 

[bkzwhitestrican]

No doubt, your bats have been a big issue and maybe the main one, but don't overlook these numbers:

 

1) Cole (1.82 ERA) and Montgomery (4.24 ERA) have started 7 of your 15 games. That ain't going to continue the rest of the year. That number should go from 47% to about 41 or 42% by the end of the year, assuming neither gets hurt.

 

2) These starters have put your pen and your bats in very tough situation, often very early in games:

 

6.10 Kluber (3 GS/ .971 OPS against)

7.56 Taillon (2 GS/ 1.076)

9.00 German 2 GS/ 1.124)

18.00 Nelson (1 GS1 1.371)

 

That's 53% of you GS'd.

 

Those numbers are as horrific or worse than most of your hitters.

 

PAs Player OPS

60 Torres .552

55 Hicks .476

55 Stanton .609

40 Frasier .472

39 Bruce .466

26 Odor .442

8 Tauchman .286

 

That's 51% of your PAs.

 

I'd argue both are pretty close to being the co-leaders in Yankee weak spots.

 

 

The short and ineffective starts by Taillon/Kluber/German have been manageable because of the bullpen, but I agree that cannot be a long term trend without burning out our top BP arms. Kluber and Taillion are both still building back up (please stop me if I'm still saying this in June), and even if you believe they're duds there's no way they're going to continue pitching to a combined 8 ERA. Really the problem is that 75% of the roster is severely underperforming right now, regardless of position.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

From what we have seen of Whitlock , as compared to the guys the Yankees kept, you have to question their ability to judge pitching talent.

 

Brian Cashman is the gift that keeps giving. After all, this is the guy who put together the 2004 Yankees, the biggest losers in the history of sports. Kevin Brown -- LOL. Other Cashman disasters: R.Johnson, C.Pavano, J.Wright, K.Igawa.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

And right after that, does she tell you where you stand?

 

I'm definitely in her top two.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Right, but what I'm saying is that though pitching and defense have been problems, the main problem is the offense. The Yankees averaged 5.39 runs/gm last year and 5.77 the season before, with largely the same offensive pieces. So far this year it's 3.67. No one expected the Yankees rotation or defense to be top of the league, but the expectation was that the offense would score so many runs that those deficiencies would be covered up.

 

Everyone knows the Yankees will still bash, but what continues to mystify me is how heavily favored NY was all winter -- by experts everywhere (not just here) -- after replacing three-fourths of the starting rotation with question marks, and not addressing defensive issues that have hurt since Sanchez became catcher and especially since Didi left.

[notin]

I'm definitely in her top two.

 

But is that enough to stay off the couch?

[moonslav59]

Are the Sox really serious contender?

 

MLBTR asked readers...

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/boston-red-sox

[bkzwhitestrican]

Are the Sox really serious contender?

 

MLBTR asked readers...

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/boston-red-sox

 

I voted no just because you posted this in the Yankees section

[moonslav59]

I voted no just because you posted this in the Yankees section

 

I figured most Yankee fans still feel that way about the Sox, and honestly, I can't blame you.

 

We seem to have more weaknesses, on paper, than the Yanks and Jays.

 

I think we look better than the Rays, but they almost always surprise to the good.

 

[bkzwhitestrican]

I figured most Yankee fans still feel that way about the Sox, and honestly, I can't blame you.

 

We seem to have more weaknesses, on paper, than the Yanks and Jays.

 

I think we look better than the Rays, but they almost always surprise to the good.

 

 

The fact that Boston is playing so well right now while we're in the gutter is definitely an extra kick in the nuts. It's infuriating. A good amount of the question marks coming into the season for the Sox have been positive thus far (E-Rod coming back healthy and playing well, good version of Nate, Pivetta playing better than his career numbers, scrap heap relievers like Valdez/Andriese/Whitlock pitching great, Martinez returning to MVP form). The offense was expected to be good and it has been very good thus far, but in my mind I thought Boston had one of the worst rotations and bullpens in baseball coming into the year. Instead they've been pretty good. If they can some how keep it up then they'll be AL contenders. But again it's only April so we'll see how things unfold.

[moonslav59]

The fact that Boston is playing so well right now while we're in the gutter is definitely an extra kick in the nuts. It's infuriating. A good amount of the question marks coming into the season for the Sox have been positive thus far (E-Rod coming back healthy and playing well, good version of Nate, Pivetta playing better than his career numbers, scrap heap relievers like Valdez/Andriese/Whitlock pitching great, Martinez returning to MVP form). The offense was expected to be good and it has been very good thus far, but in my mind I thought Boston had one of the worst rotations and bullpens in baseball coming into the year. Instead they've been pretty good. If they can some how keep it up then they'll be AL contenders. But again it's only April so we'll see how things unfold.

 

We had and still have many question marks about our pitching and defense- not so much batting.

 

Richards was not much more of a question mark than Kluber and Taillon.

 

Pivetta has always had nasty stuff, but you could say that about countless failed starters and pitchers.

 

The ERod question was only about COVID, not TJS or being injury prone. It seems that question has been answered, although relapses are not uncommon.

 

Perez was never counted on being much more than maybe a decent 5th starter, who could hold the fort down until Sale came back.

 

Houck was depth and a bit of a question mark due to his small sample size of ML success.

 

Our pen looked way worse than the Yanks, on paper, and they likely will end up much worse. I'm not so sure about the starters, now that we know more about ERod, and Richards looks healthy.

 

Our offense can be as good as anyone's.

 

Our defense is easily bottom 10 and likely bottom 3-5.

[Bellhorn04]

The Yankees need some sort of lift from somewhere. Like a good start by Taillon tonight. Not that I'm hoping for it, but I'm aware of the possibility.

[jacksonianmarch]

Taillon was lights out yet they pulled him after 80 pitches. Offense scored only 3 and couldn’t hit again

[Bellhorn04]

Offense scored only 3 and couldn’t hit again

 

2 hits by DJ, 2 by Urshela, 1 by Judge, nothing by the rest. A perfect microcosm of where the offense has been.

[jacksonianmarch]

2 hits by DJ, 2 by Urshela, 1 by Judge, nothing by the rest. A perfect microcosm of where the offense has been.

 

They will hit, but everyone is in a slump

[Thunder]

Still no hits with RISP last night for the Yanks. But they won. Sometimes ugly wins can get you going

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

For some reason, the Bronx Bombers just haven't been quite the same since they had special coach Carlos Beltran "paying attention to details."

[Bellhorn04]

For some reason, the Bronx Bombers just haven't been quite the same since they had special coach Carlos Beltran "paying attention to details."

 

Yeah, they kind of magically 'overperformed' in 2019.

[bkzwhitestrican]

Yeah, they kind of magically 'overperformed' in 2019.

 

I mean if we're gonna point to coaches caught up in cheating, the Boston offense sure looks a lot better with Cora back. He did have a whole year off to think of techniques more advanced than garbage cans and buzzers.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I mean if we're gonna point to coaches caught up in cheating, the Boston offense sure looks a lot better with Cora back. He did have a whole year off to think of techniques more advanced than garbage cans and buzzers.

 

The MLB does consider him a mastermind.

[jacksonianmarch]

The problem with this team is the hitting approach for everyone is the exact same (sans Lemahieu and Judge). Pull the ball out of the park. Yanks are a RH hitting team playing in a park with a comically short RF wall and a very deep LCF gap and they’re trying to pull the ball out of the park. A 320 foot dunker in RF counts just as much as a 470 ft no doubter

[Kimmi]

Taillon was lights out yet they pulled him after 80 pitches. Offense scored only 3 and couldn’t hit again

 

And 2 of those runs were kind of gifted to the Yanks.

[jacksonianmarch]

I don’t look gift horses in the mouth.

 

Kluber’s velocity seems up a little today. We shall see if it holds.

[jacksonianmarch]

2 more base runners stranded by the “Whiff”en

[jacksonianmarch]

This offense f***ing blows

[jacksonianmarch]

Boone brings in a guy who cannot find the zone chronically into a pivotal bases loaded situation. He sucks

[jacksonianmarch]

#fireboone

[Thunder]

You would have to worry about none of that if your bats were cooking