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Bloom Don’t mess this hire up and don’t drag your feet .Cora is our guy !!!!


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Cora is.

 

Sort of like saying Stealer’s Wheels was better than the Beatles. Just a one-hit wonder, but a damn good one...

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Sort of like saying Stealer’s Wheels was better than the Beatles. Just a one-hit wonder, but a damn good one...

 

Not really. Almost every Beatles song is better than their best one.

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I’m not opposed to Cora but how does he get a pass on 2019?

While they didn’t replace their closer and had some injuries they weren’t ready to play at the start of the season and with the talent they had at least contending for the 2nd wild card should have been attainable

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I’m not opposed to Cora but how does he get a pass on 2019?

While they didn’t replace their closer and had some injuries they weren’t ready to play at the start of the season and with the talent they had at least contending for the 2nd wild card should have been attainable

 

No "pass" was given. Same with DD.

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I’m not opposed to Cora but how does he get a pass on 2019?

While they didn’t replace their closer and had some injuries they weren’t ready to play at the start of the season and with the talent they had at least contending for the 2nd wild card should have been attainable

 

Cora's handling of the starting pitching at the outset of 2019 has been vilified here more than his involvement with the Astros -- and rightfully so, since this is SOXtalk.

 

However, I don't recall anyone considering that the veteran starters' arms may have been taxed slightly more than usual from the previous extended (albeit championship) postseason; not only did Sale, Price, Eovaldi and Porcello work a month longer than ever before, but all those "extra" innings were quite possibly higher stress than normal.

 

Cora could've been limiting the starters' workload in Spring Training '19 out of necessity more than choice. Guys just may have been still hurting -- eventually, Sale, Price and Eovaldi all missed significant time to injuries, while Porcello just looked cooked. Was it really just coincidence that Boston's best pitcher in '19, Rodriguez, was both the youngest and the guy with the least mileage on his arm from the '18 postseason?

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Cora's handling of the starting pitching at the outset of 2019 has been vilified here more than his involvement with the Astros -- and rightfully so, since this is SOXtalk.

 

However, I don't recall anyone considering that the veteran starters' arms may have been taxed slightly more than usual from the previous extended (albeit championship) postseason; not only did Sale, Price, Eovaldi and Porcello work a month longer than ever before, but all those "extra" innings were quite possibly higher stress than normal.

 

Cora could've been limiting the starters' workload in Spring Training '19 out of necessity more than choice. Guys just may have been still hurting -- eventually, Sale, Price and Eovaldi all missed significant time to injuries, while Porcello just looked cooked. Was it really just coincidence that Boston's best pitcher in '19, Rodriguez, was both the youngest and the guy with the least mileage on his arm from the '18 postseason?

Again I’m not opposed to rehiring him but what team do you think will have more talent the 2019 team or the 2021?

If he couldn’t win in 2019 what makes people think 2021 will be better.

It’s possible that 2018 was just a stars aligned everything went right aberration.

 

Maybe it makes sense because what he did with Devers and with probably some more young players Coming up he can help them too.

I just don’t see how he has such a great reputation when his track record is one great year and one so-so year.

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Again I’m not opposed to rehiring him but what team do you think will have more talent the 2019 team or the 2021?

If he couldn’t win in 2019 what makes people think 2021 will be better.

It’s possible that 2018 was just a stars aligned everything went right aberration.

 

Maybe it makes sense because what he did with Devers and with probably some more young players Coming up he can help them too.

I just don’t see how he has such a great reputation when his track record is one great year and one so-so year.

 

Maybe the stars aligned in 2019 for everything to go wrong.

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Maybe the stars aligned in 2019 for everything to go wrong.

 

Manfred and his schedule-makers did their best, starting the Sox off on a long, obnoxious West Coast road trip of 13 games (including two meaningless exhibitions vs. the Cubs in Arizona)... Meanwhile, the Yankees played their first six at home, and first nine overall vs. the two worst teams in baseball -- the Orioles and the Tigers.

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Cora , by all accounts , did a great job in 2018. He had what was possibly the best , most complete Sox team ever assembled. But he managed them well and never missed a beat . In 2019 , he had largely the same crew back . However it was minus the closer and one of the top set up men . There were essentially no replacements for them . Then a couple of injuries and some underachievement from the starting rotation , and trouble was brewing . He never seemed to find the answers to this . All in all , he had one great year and one not so good year . Personally , I would like to see him come back in 2021 . I think he would be a good choice to guide this current group . I'm pretty sure if the Sox don't hire him , someone else will .
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If Cora comes back, I will not be rooting for this team until he is no longer manager. I don't support cheaters.
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If Cora comes back, I will not be rooting for this team until he is no longer manager. I don't support cheaters.

 

Was it cheating or trying to gain a competitive edge?

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Was it cheating or trying to gain a competitive edge?

 

Cheating. I think that's been proven as a fact.

 

I'm talking about what he did in Houston.

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Cheating. I think that's been proven as a fact.

 

I'm talking about what he did in Houston.

 

The Sox have been caught cheating several times.

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Rehire the best manager we've ever had.

 

Agreed.

 

Dick Williams likely won't be coming through that door anytime soon.

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Manfred and his schedule-makers did their best, starting the Sox off on a long, obnoxious West Coast road trip of 13 games (including two meaningless exhibitions vs. the Cubs in Arizona)... Meanwhile, the Yankees played their first six at home, and first nine overall vs. the two worst teams in baseball -- the Orioles and the Tigers.

 

Not to blame the season on scheduling, but that was the most ridiculous schedule to start a season that I have ever seen. With no off days for the first 11 games, no less.

 

And then there's this season, where the Yankees were home for the first 7 games we played against them, with the Sox only getting 3 at home.

 

Bogus scheduling.

 

And whatever happened to the sealed sign stealing letter that will damage the reputations of some Yankees if it is unsealed?

 

More bogusness.

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If Cora comes back, I will not be rooting for this team until he is no longer manager. I don't support cheaters.

 

Well, you better swear off sports, then. If you're talking paying taxes, then yes, cheating is a big deal. But sports? Meh. It occurs in all sports, at all levels, and on almost every play. As for Cora, he's the one guy in this whole mess who showed some integrity: manning up, taking the fall, and not throwing anyone under the bus.

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Not to blame the season on scheduling, but that was the most ridiculous schedule to start a season that I have ever seen. With no off days for the first 11 games, no less.

 

And then there's this season, where the Yankees were home for the first 7 games we played against them, with the Sox only getting 3 at home.

 

Bogus scheduling.

 

And whatever happened to the sealed sign stealing letter that will damage the reputations of some Yankees if it is unsealed?

 

More bogusness.

 

The first clause of this post is the most important. MLB is not conspiring to hurt one of its most popular teams. (The RS are perfectly capable of shooting themselves in the foot without help from the league.)

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Well, you better swear off sports, then. If you're talking paying taxes, then yes, cheating is a big deal. But sports? Meh. It occurs in all sports, at all levels, and on almost every play. As for Cora, he's the one guy in this whole mess who showed some integrity: manning up, taking the fall, and not throwing anyone under the bus.

 

Not that it makes it right or okay, but yes, cheating is so widespread in baseball that if you're going to quit rooting for a team because they rehire Cora, then you would pretty much have to quit rooting for any team. Cora and the Astros are not the only team who are guilty of sign stealing. Every team does it to some extent. That doesn't even take into account other forms of cheating going on.

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The first clause of this post is the most important. MLB is not conspiring to hurt one of its most popular teams. (The RS are perfectly capable of shooting themselves in the foot without help from the league.)

 

I agree that the Sox are perfectly capable of shooting themselves in the foot on their own.

 

But I also believe that the Yankees are showed favoritism from MLB. Another example is Chapman's 3 game suspension appeal being postponed until next season. Bogus.

 

And last year when it was the Red Sox home games that were played in London. Why not the Yankees' home games? Why not one home game from each team?

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Not that it makes it right or okay, but yes, cheating is so widespread in baseball that if you're going to quit rooting for a team because they rehire Cora, then you would pretty much have to quit rooting for any team. Cora and the Astros are not the only team who are guilty of sign stealing. Every team does it to some extent. That doesn't even take into account other forms of cheating going on.

 

Agreed. And it's up to the league to make the more egregious cases impossible. it would be a relatively simple matter to develop a way to communicate signs to pitcher/catcher -- (e.g., football calls in plays to the QB on every play without incident). Instead, they try an elaborate work-around (no clubhouse video, etc.) which relies largely on the honor system. ("Oh yes, I PROMISE no one at home or in the stands will EVER look at video to decipher signs ... We will NEVER have a guy with binoculars out in center field ... I promise I promise I promise ...")

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Well, you better swear off sports, then. If you're talking paying taxes, then yes, cheating is a big deal. But sports? Meh. It occurs in all sports, at all levels, and on almost every play. As for Cora, he's the one guy in this whole mess who showed some integrity: manning up, taking the fall, and not throwing anyone under the bus.

 

Cora could have shown even more integrity by not being Houston's ringleader. He could have chosen not to participate, and even blown the whistle.

 

As for giving up sports, fine with me. Being quarantined pretty much did that for me already. I watched maybe 3 Red Sox games this year.

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