2020-2021 Offseason Thread

[Thunder]

He's in Anaheim. Nobody out there loves the Angels. He's underloved and underrated!

 

Well then he's overrated by every city in the US except Anaheim. All I hear is that he's the best player ever. If he's that good, they should be a perennial playoff team. Not necessarily a perennial contender, but at least always in the hunt for the Wild Card. You can ride one really good player to a record of .500 or marginally better.

[Thunder]

Do you have a pool of piranhas? I think you might need it here...

 

If you grab a pool of water from the Connecticut River, it's like a mystery bag. You don't know what you're gonna get, but it should suffice for these purposes

[Thunder]

I think you missed his joke

 

About 30 years ago, Chamberlain wrote a book in which he claimed he slept with 20,000 women, hence "more love than he deserved." Ir'a ridiculous statement, as it meant he slept with one woman a day for nearly 55 years. He was about 54 or so at the time he made the claim. Ignoring the 0 he had to have had for the first few years of his life, I also think he took a few days off to squeeze in some basketball...

 

Life goals^

[notin]

Well then he's overrated by every city in the US except Anaheim. All I hear is that he's the best player ever. If he's that good, they should be a perennial playoff team. Not necessarily a perennial contender, but at least always in the hunt for the Wild Card. You can ride one really good player to a record of .500 or marginally better.

 

I was saying this just the other day to Ernie Banks...

[moonslav59]

Per BTV, that trade would be Eovaldi for Pollock and Robinson Ortiz. a 19yo who last posted a 4.59 ERA in A ball....

 

It also accepted Eovaldi & Decker for Pollock, Kolarek and Joe Kelly (The lux tax money is almost equal.)

[mvp 78]

Well then he's overrated by every city in the US except Anaheim. All I hear is that he's the best player ever. If he's that good, they should be a perennial playoff team. Not necessarily a perennial contender, but at least always in the hunt for the Wild Card. You can ride one really good player to a record of .500 or marginally better.

 

The MLB is not the NBA for sure.

[mvp 78]

Ted Williams is overrated by every city in the US. All I hear is that he's the best hitter ever. If he was that good, they should have been a perennial playoff team.

[Bellhorn04]

Well then he's overrated by every city in the US except Anaheim. All I hear is that he's the best player ever. If he's that good, they should be a perennial playoff team. Not necessarily a perennial contender, but at least always in the hunt for the Wild Card. You can ride one really good player to a record of .500 or marginally better.

 

Not when your pitching is terrible every year.

[harmony]

Centerfielder Michael Taylor, a defensive whiz, is now available, according to MLB Trade Rumors:

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/10/michael-a-taylor-clears-waivers-elects-free-agency.html

[harmony]

MLB Trade Rumors has released its arbitration projections (using three formulas):

Red Sox (8)

 

Matt Barnes – $3.7MM / $5.7MM / $4.1MM

Ryan Brasier – $1.0MM / $1.6MM / $1.0MM

Austin Brice – $700K / $900K / $700K

Rafael Devers – $3.4MM / $6.3MM / $3.4MM

Jose Peraza – $2.9MM / $3.2MM / $3.0MM

Kevin Plawecki – $1.6MM / $2.0MM / $1.3MM

Eduardo Rodriguez – $8.3MM / $8.3MM / $8.3MM

Ryan Weber – $900K / $1.5MM / $900K

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/10/projected-arbitration-salaries-for-2021.html

[Bellhorn04]

MLB Trade Rumors has released its arbitration projections (using three formulas):

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/10/projected-arbitration-salaries-for-2021.html

 

So the expectation is that E-Rod's salary will be the same as 2020.

[mvp 78]

Centerfielder Michael Taylor, a defensive whiz, is now available, according to MLB Trade Rumors:

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/10/michael-a-taylor-clears-waivers-elects-free-agency.html

 

He has not been a whiz since his knee injury in 2019.

[harmony]

So the expectation is that E-Rod's salary will be the same as 2020.

If the Red Sox tender Eduardo Rodriguez a 2021 contract.

[illinoisredsox]

If the Red Sox tender Eduardo Rodriguez a 2021 contract.

 

Why wouldn't they?

[notin]

So the expectation is that E-Rod's salary will be the same as 2020.

 

Well, what did he do to deserve a raise?

[mvp 78]

Why wouldn't they?

 

If COVID gives ERod gang green and his arm falls off. Otherwise, he's getting tendered.

[mvp 78]

Well, what did he do to deserve a raise?

 

He didn't allow any runs all year.

[notin]

He didn't allow any runs all year.

 

Neither did Kevin Plawecki, and he threw more innings. So why does Plawecki only get $1.6mill and ERod gets $8.3 mill?

[notin]

If COVID gives ERod gang green and his arm falls off. Otherwise, he's getting tendered.

 

What if it's only the right arm that falls off?

[mvp 78]

Neither did Kevin Plawecki, and he threw more innings. So why does Plawecki only get $1.6mill and ERod gets $8.3 mill?

 

Plawecki is just a flash in the pan. He doesn't have the history ERod does.

[mvp 78]

What if it's only the right arm that falls off?

 

Any limb loss would get him nontendered. He'd also get nontendered if he lost a finger on his left hand, lost either eye, lost either foot or was found in the backseat with Henry's wife. He could get his nose lopped off by an axe like Tyrion Lannister and still get a contract though.

[moonslav59]

If COVID gives ERod gang green and his arm falls off. Otherwise, he's getting tendered.

 

COVID is known to give heart issues, in some cases. That's about as serious as anything can get. If it looks like there may be an issue, and since ERod just has one year left of control, I'd say tendering him or not is something in consideration by Sox brass.

 

If he gets a green light on his health, it's a no brainer.

[moonslav59]

MLB Trade Rumors has released its arbitration projections (using three formulas):

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/10/projected-arbitration-salaries-for-2021.html

 

Thanks. I was wondering when these would come out, so maybe....

 

$8.3M ERod (assuming green light on health)

$4.4M Devers

$4.2M Barnes

$1.6M Plawecki

$1.3M Brasier

$1.2M Weber

 

That's $21M for 6 arb keepers.

 

Bye-bye Peraza & Brice

[notin]

Plawecki is just a flash in the pan. He doesn't have the history ERod does.

 

Ok so NOW you bring in the whole "history as a pitcher" thing...

[notin]

COVID is known to give heart issues, in some cases. That's about as serious as anything can get. If it looks like there may be an issue, and since ERod just has one year left of control, I'd say tendering him or not is something in consideration by Sox brass.

 

If he gets a green light on his health, it's a no brainer.

 

Yes, his contract tender is 100% dependent on his health...

[Bellhorn04]

Well, what did he do to deserve a raise?

 

In arbitration, some players get raises even though they played worse than the year before.

 

See: JBJ 2019-2020

[harmony]

Why wouldn't they?

Eduardo Rodriguez "had more than two months of total inactivity leading up to his reexamination in Boston in late September. As of that time, the team anticipated that in a best-case scenario, it wouldn’t be until at least mid-October that he could start engaging in light exercise on a treadmill."

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/10/sports/closer-look-red-sox-pitcher-eduardo-rodriguezs-struggle-with-myocarditis/

 

The Red Sox might need a more encouraging prognosis before tendering Rodriguez a contract less than seven weeks from now on December 2.

 

Or not.

[moonslav59]

Yes, his contract tender is 100% dependent on his health...

 

Yes. 100%.

 

It's a no-brainer, if he's healthy, even at $14-17M/yr.

 

$8-9M is a bargain, in terms of open market value.

 

If his heart or other issues are severe enough to cast major doubt, we may walk away.

[notin]

In arbitration, some players get raises even though they played worse than the year before.

 

See: JBJ 2019-2020

 

 

 

They key word in your argument is "played"...

[moonslav59]

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/10/sports/closer-look-red-sox-pitcher-eduardo-rodriguezs-struggle-with-myocarditis/

 

The Red Sox might need a more encouraging prognosis before tendering Rodriguez a contract less than seven weeks from now on December 2.

 

Or not.

 

Exactly, and at the risk of sounding political, getting over COVID is often not like just getting over the flu.