Bloom move your asssssss

[moonslav59]

I’m thinking Ryan Weber has some serious dirt on Bloom or Henry or both...

 

Here's my list of our worst players on the 40 man roster:

 

1. Weber

2. Reyes

3. Shawaryn

4. Arauz

5. Aybar

6. Hart

7. Marco

8. Osich

9. Poyner

Velazquez, Mazza, Wilson, Brewer, Brasier, Lakins, Lin, Hembree

 

Wow, looking at this list really shows just how shallow our roster is, right now. That's 17 guys not even counting Pedey. Almost half the roster!

 

 

[fxkatt]

Here's my list of our worst players on the 40 man roster:

 

1. Weber

2. Reyes

3. Shawaryn

4. Arauz

5. Aybar

6. Hart

7. Marco

8. Osich

9. Poyner

Velazquez, Mazza, Wilson, Brewer, Brasier, Lakins, Lin, Hembree

 

Wow, looking at this list really shows just how shallow our roster is, right now. That's 17 guys not even counting Pedey. Almost half the roster!

 

 

 

And to think, we have a questionable starting rotation to boot, a 162-game schedule sounds more burdensome than I've been imagining.

[moonslav59]

And to think, we have a questionable starting rotation to boot, a 162-game schedule sounds more burdensome than I've been imagining.

 

That's a lot of holes for any farm system to fill- let alone a bottom 10 one.

[mvp 78]

Bloom shake dat asssssssssssss

[moonslav59]

Bloom shake dat asssssssssssss

 

Hey, the guy just signed...

 

Mookie Freakin' Betts!

 

[moonslav59]

No other GM can say that!

[notin]

No other GM can say that!

 

Epstein signed him once, too. And for a lot less money...

[moonslav59]

Epstein signed him once, too. And for a lot less money...

 

To a ML deal?

[notin]

To a ML deal?

 

 

I don’t recall you making that statement...

[moonslav59]

I don’t recall you making that statement...

 

Kinda felt it was implied, but I guess you're right.

[Bellhorn04]

Here's my list of our worst players on the 40 man roster:

 

1. Weber

2. Reyes

3. Shawaryn

4. Arauz

5. Aybar

6. Hart

7. Marco

8. Osich

9. Poyner

Velazquez, Mazza, Wilson, Brewer, Brasier, Lakins, Lin, Hembree

 

Wow, looking at this list really shows just how shallow our roster is, right now. That's 17 guys not even counting Pedey. Almost half the roster!

 

 

But is it that much different from the past few years?

[mvp 78]

But is it that much different from the past few years?

 

It’s not. Guys 30-40 are usually AAA guys.

[oldtimer]

Here's my list of our worst players on the 40 man roster:

 

1. Weber

2. Reyes

3. Shawaryn

4. Arauz

5. Aybar

6. Hart

7. Marco

8. Osich

9. Poyner

Velazquez, Mazza, Wilson, Brewer, Brasier, Lakins, Lin, Hembree

 

Wow, looking at this list really shows just how shallow our roster is, right now. That's 17 guys not even counting Pedey. Almost half the roster!

 

 

 

Marco was moved to make room for Brice.

[Bellhorn04]

Here's my list of our worst players on the 40 man roster:

 

1. Weber

2. Reyes

3. Shawaryn

4. Arauz

5. Aybar

6. Hart

7. Marco

8. Osich

9. Poyner

Velazquez, Mazza, Wilson, Brewer, Brasier, Lakins, Lin, Hembree

 

Wow, looking at this list really shows just how shallow our roster is, right now. That's 17 guys not even counting Pedey. Almost half the roster!

 

 

Also, why so dismissive of Reyes?

[moonslav59]

Also, why so dismissive of Reyes?

 

They are all pretty close and equally unpromising.

 

He's ranked 44th just behind Kyle Hart on soxprospects.com.

 

Is there a reason you think he should be lower on my list?

[moonslav59]

But is it that much different from the past few years?

 

I'd say our 25-40 players were better in years past. There was no problem with rule 5 this year. We had more roster spots open, this winter, than I can remember. Perhaps worse is the fact that those not needing to be on the 40 man roster yet have been pretty unpromising over the last 2-3 years. There's little hop the 25-40 slots will improve much going forward from within the organization.

 

Here's a look at the 44 players used in 2018- granted several were acquired after this time of the year.

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2018-roster.shtml

 

2016:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2016-roster.shtml

 

2013:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BOS/2013-roster.shtml

Edited January 11, 2020 by moonslav59

[moonslav59]

2016 Red Sox

 

https://www.baseball-almanac.com/teamstats/roster.php?y=2016&t=BOS

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

2016 Red Sox

 

https://www.baseball-almanac.com/teamstats/roster.php?y=2016&t=BOS

 

That's a first-place ballclub...

[moonslav59]

That's a first-place ballclub...

 

I’m looking at the bottom of the rosters to compare the #25 to 40+ slots.

[moonslav59]

That's a first-place ballclub...

 

Somebody asked if the 25-40 slots are much different than other years. I’d say YES!

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Without even looking up names, I have to say that the "replacement players" that were either called up or acquired last summer reflected the worst organizational depth I can remember as a Sox fan of 50+ years...

[moonslav59]

Without even looking up names, I have to say that the "replacement players" that were either called up or acquired last summer reflected the worst organizational depth I can remember as a Sox fan of 50+ years...

 

They obviously decided not to spend by acquiring anybody last summer, but yes, the players we called up over the year were not very good.

 

Even Chavis only gave us about 2-3 weeks of good help then turned into a pumpkin.

[notin]

Marco was moved to make room for Brice.

 

 

He was DFAd, but he’s still part of the Sox organization until he either gets traded, waived or refuses assignment...

[notin]

They obviously decided not to spend by acquiring anybody last summer, but yes, the players we called up over the year were not very good.

 

Even Chavis only gave us about 2-3 weeks of good help then turned into a pumpkin.

 

The overwhelming majority were AAAA retreads who’d all struggled and failed to impress in previous MLB appearances. Did anyone really expect anything out of Gorkys Hernandez, Chris Owings or Josh Smith?

[moonslav59]

The overwhelming majority were AAAA retreads who’d all struggled and failed to impress in previous MLB appearances. Did anyone really expect anything out of Gorkys Hernandez, Chris Owings or Josh Smith?

 

Not me. I actually was surprised Chavis did well for a stretch.

 

Only Taylor and Walden did better than expected for scrubs.

 

(I did not consider Workman a scrub.)

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

Walden and Chavis were up early in the spring and contributed. The one that I thought really revealed a disconnect among the braintrust was Owings; none of us - and I'm guessing AC included -- could understand why he, rather than Marco, got the call in August...

 

And it almost looked as if Cora was saying, "Oh, yeah?", by immediately starting Owings at second and batting him leadoff. The guy went 0-for-5 with 3 Ks in an extra-inning loss.

[moonslav59]

It's rather shocking how many unpromising players we have on our 40 man roster.

 

Here's how I break it down:

 

17 Helpful:

Vazquez

JBJ (1 year left)

Workman (1 yr)

Bogey

Betts (1 yr)

Barnes

ERod

Beni

Devers

JD

Walden

Chavis (?)

Taylor

DHernandez (?)

Peraza

Perez

Plawecki

 

5 Questionable (recent or longstanding injury):

Hembree

Price

Eovaldi

Sale

Pedey

 

12 Likely not helpful or very helpful in 2020:

Velazquez

Lin

Poyner

Brasier

Brewer

Brice/Marco (DFA'd)

Osich

Dalbec

Wilson

Chatham

Arauz (Rule 5- needs to be on 26 man roster, right?)

Mazza

 

6 Unpromising:

Lakins

Reyes

Weber

Shawaryn

Aybar

Hart

 

That's over 20 player that are highly questionable at best to unpromising at worst.

 

Assuming 100% health and no more acquisitions or DFA's, here is our projected 26 man roster for opening day:

13 Pitchers

S1 Sale

S2 ERod

S3 Price

S4 Eovaldi

S5 Perez

 

R1 Workman

R2 Barnes

R3 Taylor

R4 Walden

R5 DHern

R6 Hembree

R7 Brice

R8 Velazquez

 

13 Everyday Players

C Vazquez, Plawecki

1B Chavis

2B Peraza, Pedey

3B Devers, Arauz

SS Bogey, Lin

LF Beni

CF JBJ

RF Betts

DH/OF JD

 

AAA Help:

SP Johnson (not on 40), Hart, Houck, Reyes

RP Osich, Shawaryn, Brewer, Lakins, Poyner, Mazza

C Bandy & Nunez (both not on 40 man)

1B Longhi & Ockimey (Both not on 40)

2B Marco (recently DFA'd)

3B Dalbec

SS Chatham

LF Travis (no 40)

CF Castillo (stuck in Purgatory)

RF Andreoli (no 40)

 

AA Long Shots: Mata, Ward, Feltman, Duran, Wilson

 

Edited January 11, 2020 by moonslav59

[moonslav59]

Walden and Chavis were up early in the spring and contributed. The one that I thought really revealed a disconnect among the braintrust was Owings; none of us - and I'm guessing AC included -- could understand why he, rather than Marco, got the call in August...

 

And it almost looked as if Cora was saying, "Oh, yeah?", by immediately starting Owings at second and batting him leadoff. The guy went 0-for-5 with 3 Ks in an extra-inning loss.

 

That was a head-scratcher.

 

Taylor, Walden & Chavis were the only fringe players that did well, and Chavis was actually just good for about 2-3 weeks:

 

First 15 games: 1.186 OPS

Last 80 games: .690 OPS (although the 45 RBIs helped)

[mvp 78]

Idk what you got against Chatham and Dalbec you old coot.

[moonslav59]

Idk what you got against Chatham and Dalbec you old coot.

 

No likely to help in 2020. I didn't say beyond 2020.

 

I'd trade Chavis and start Dalbec at 1B, but that ain't happening.

 

Chatham is a long shot.