Annnnnnd the Yankees choke

[Swiharts Ghost]

Couldn't see that one coming ....ohhhh wait yes I did Jackson .

[Swiharts Ghost]

Jackson ? Sanchez ,Your starters besides pax ? What a mess man .Hey you beat that powerhouse Twins team .

[Behindenemylines]

The Yankees lose! You can not win without starting pitching. Guys that can give you 6 or 7 solid innings.

[jung]

Poor Jacko. We tried to tell him and he surely tried to tell us. Perhaps a little less bluster next time Jacko. Lets see you walk away with one of those big impressive division crowns. Whoopdy-ding-ding

[Behindenemylines]

It will be interesting to see how much $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ the Yanks will throw at Cole to get him to go to NY?

[oldtimer]

It will be interesting to see how much $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ the Yanks will throw at Cole to get him to go to NY?

 

The Yankee fans would love us to let go of E-Rod, so they could swoop in and pick him up. They too had a bloated payroll but in the end, their SP wasn't good enough. At least we didn't go after Stanton. Yes, Cole will be a prize sought affter by many. We should refrain from that bidding war.

[Kimmi]

The Yankee fans would love us to let go of E-Rod, so they could swoop in and pick him up. They too had a bloated payroll but in the end, their SP wasn't good enough. At least we didn't go after Stanton. Yes, Cole will be a prize sought affter by many. We should refrain from that bidding war.

 

Spot on. You and I are in agreement when it comes to those huge contracts.

[Swiharts Ghost]

Spot on. You and I are in agreement when it comes to those huge contracts.

 

2030 Think of that ? Yikes .Judge and their star third baseman will want to break the bank .Sanchez is a DH and will want more than JDM .Window is 2 years for that team .

Edited October 20, 2019 by Swiharts Ghost

[FredLynn]

The Yankees lose! You can not win without starting pitching. Guys that can give you 6 or 7 solid innings.

 

They lost Sabathia, German (what an idiot), and Severino (who never really got his footing). In the pen they lost Betances. Stanton was hurt. Yes, I hate the Yankees too, but they never gave up, unlike this year's Red Sox team which never even showed up. I am glad we still have a ring from 2018 and finished the job that year, and I am almost as glad that the Yankees didn't get a ring this year. But I see a team in the Yankees that busted their butts to make the most of what they had available in contrast to our team this year.

Yes, the cockroaches are dead, and we are all entitled to rejoice in that fact. I would be much happier if our team showed up for the season this year too. They had the talent to do it but took the year off.

[Tedballgame]

Poor Jacko. We tried to tell him and he surely tried to tell us. Perhaps a little less bluster next time Jacko. Lets see you walk away with one of those big impressive division crowns. Whoopdy-ding-ding

He only comes out when the Skanks are winning. Troll. He will be nowhere to find now. Loser!

[harmony]

He only comes out when the Skanks are winning. Troll. He will be nowhere to find now. Loser!

And some posters are most prominent only when the Yankees lose.

Edited October 20, 2019 by harmony

[moonslav59]

You know what I love almost as much as just the fact that the Yankees lost?

 

This whole "You can't win without a strong pen" thing took a big hit last night and in the 2019 playoffs.

 

1) Osuna blows the biggest save of his life.

2) Chapman blows the game.

3) The Nats make the World Series with the 22nd best pen by WAR.

4) The Astros make the WS with the 8th best pen by WAR. (Boston was 5th.)

 

ERA-

3. HOU 84

8. BOS 91

30. WAS 126

 

WHIP

2. HOU 1.16

19. BOS 1.39

27. WAS 1.48 (awful!)

 

K/BB

5. HOU 3.1

17. BOS 2.4

21. WAS 2.3

 

xFIP

1. HOU 4.06

10. BOS 4.43

29. WASH 5.03 (UGLY!)

 

If the Nats win, will this mean the whole focus moves back to the rotation?

 

[Swiharts Ghost]

Jackson did show today and gets huuuuuuuuge props for that .Guy is arrogant but loves that team and has some great insight .Truce Jackson and damn good year for your boys in pin stripes .I had to rub it in this year a little because well your well aware why lol .

[jacksonianmarch]

Jackson did show today and gets huuuuuuuuge props for that .Guy is arrogant but loves that team and has some great insight .Truce Jackson and damn good year for your boys in pin stripes .I had to rub it in this year a little because well your well aware why lol .

 

Understood SG. Thankfully I was in a wedding last night and was absolutely obliterated when the game ended. Filled the pain. What the Yanks did this year was unprecedented. We had 30 different players on the IL. A full roster is 25. We had 25 guys plus 5 backups on the injured list. That’s insane. To recap

 

We lost the runner up for ROY, Andujar, for the season on day 3.

Stanton plays in 19 games due to being entirely snakebit.

Severino spends the first 5 months on the shelf.

Montgomery is on the shelf due to TJS and is delayed 2 months due to shoulder tendonitis

Sanchez has two stints on the IL for leg issues

Judge missed two months with an oblique

Voit misses a month and pretty much isn’t the same due to a Sports hernia

EE gets dealt for, breaks a wrist then pulls an oblique

Bird and Ellsbury miss the whole year, no big loss

Paxton missed three weeks with a knee and goes into the postseason with sciatica

Hicks tears his UCL

Tauchman misses 6 weeks with a calf issue

Frazier misses 3 weeks with an ankle

Estrada misses a month with a leg issue

Gregorius missed the first two months coming off TJS

Betances misses 5 months with a shoulder issue and tears his Achilles on his return

Heller missed the year with TJS

Loaisiga missed 2 months with a shoulder issue

CC was on the DL for awhile with knee and shoulder issues

Hale looks good early then misses the year with a back issue

German spent 2 weeks on the IL with a hip then is suspended for beating his GF

Happ spent time on the IL with biceps tendinitis

 

There were more, but those are off the top of my head. And they still were fighting for a WS berth. They didn’t quit when they had every excuse to. All players should return healthy for 2020. Give us an ace, keep the pen strong and make a run in 2020 when the other super teams should be a bit weaker

[Bellhorn04]

You know what I love almost as much as just the fact that the Yankees lost?

 

This whole "You can't win without a strong pen" thing took a big hit last night and in the 2019 playoffs.

 

1) Osuna blows the biggest save of his life.

2) Chapman blows the game.

3) The Nats make the World Series with the 22nd best pen by WAR.

4) The Astros make the WS with the 8th best pen by WAR. (Boston was 5th.)

 

ERA-

3. HOU 84

8. BOS 91

30. WAS 126

 

WHIP

2. HOU 1.16

19. BOS 1.39

27. WAS 1.48 (awful!)

 

K/BB

5. HOU 3.1

17. BOS 2.4

21. WAS 2.3

 

xFIP

1. HOU 4.06

10. BOS 4.43

29. WASH 5.03 (UGLY!)

 

If the Nats win, will this mean the whole focus moves back to the rotation?

 

 

Yes and no, because the Nats did make a bunch of moves to try to bolster their pen. One of them, Hudson, has been outstanding.

[moonslav59]

Understood SG. Thankfully I was in a wedding last night and was absolutely obliterated when the game ended. Filled the pain. What the Yanks did this year was unprecedented. We had 30 different players on the IL. A full roster is 25. We had 25 guys plus 5 backups on the injured list. That’s insane. To recap

 

We lost the runner up for ROY, Andujar, for the season on day 3.

Stanton plays in 19 games due to being entirely snakebit.

Severino spends the first 5 months on the shelf.

Montgomery is on the shelf due to TJS and is delayed 2 months due to shoulder tendonitis

Sanchez has two stints on the IL for leg issues

Judge missed two months with an oblique

Voit misses a month and pretty much isn’t the same due to a Sports hernia

EE gets dealt for, breaks a wrist then pulls an oblique

Bird and Ellsbury miss the whole year, no big loss

Paxton missed three weeks with a knee and goes into the postseason with sciatica

Hicks tears his UCL

Tauchman misses 6 weeks with a calf issue

Frazier misses 3 weeks with an ankle

Estrada misses a month with a leg issue

Gregorius missed the first two months coming off TJS

Betances misses 5 months with a shoulder issue and tears his Achilles on his return

Heller missed the year with TJS

Loaisiga missed 2 months with a shoulder issue

CC was on the DL for awhile with knee and shoulder issues

Hale looks good early then misses the year with a back issue

German spent 2 weeks on the IL with a hip then is suspended for beating his GF

Happ spent time on the IL with biceps tendinitis

 

There were more, but those are off the top of my head. And they still were fighting for a WS berth. They didn’t quit when they had every excuse to. All players should return healthy for 2020. Give us an ace, keep the pen strong and make a run in 2020 when the other super teams should be a bit weaker

 

Stunning list.

 

You guys can hold your heads up high this winter, but Cashman has some work to do with that rotation.

[Bellhorn04]

Stunning list.

 

You guys can hold your heads up high this winter, but Cashman has some work to do with that rotation.

 

Maybe the training and conditioning units as well. And stop acquiring so many human hulks.

[fxkatt]

And some posters are most prominent only when the Yankees lose.

 

There was no ALCS thread until it was safely over... So, I gotta agree with you.

[Kimmi]

2030 Think of that ? Yikes .Judge and their star third baseman will want to break the bank .Sanchez is a DH and will want more than JDM .Window is 2 years for that team .

 

I am so glad that we did not trade for Stanton.

 

Plus, I expect the Yankees to open their wallets this offseason, adding even more eventual albatrosses to their team.

[Kimmi]

You know what I love almost as much as just the fact that the Yankees lost?

 

This whole "You can't win without a strong pen" thing took a big hit last night and in the 2019 playoffs.

 

1) Osuna blows the biggest save of his life.

2) Chapman blows the game.

3) The Nats make the World Series with the 22nd best pen by WAR.

4) The Astros make the WS with the 8th best pen by WAR. (Boston was 5th.)

 

ERA-

3. HOU 84

8. BOS 91

30. WAS 126

 

WHIP

2. HOU 1.16

19. BOS 1.39

27. WAS 1.48 (awful!)

 

K/BB

5. HOU 3.1

17. BOS 2.4

21. WAS 2.3

 

xFIP

1. HOU 4.06

10. BOS 4.43

29. WASH 5.03 (UGLY!)

 

If the Nats win, will this mean the whole focus moves back to the rotation?

 

 

The focus should always be on the rotation. The pen should be built inexpensively, and by inexpensive, I don't mean weak. I don't believe the pen should be the place to spend valuable resources.

[moonslav59]

I am so glad that we did not trade for Stanton.

 

Plus, I expect the Yankees to open their wallets this offseason, adding even more eventual albatrosses to their team.

 

Me, too.

 

People said I was crazy for wanting the Yanks to sign both Harper and Machado.

 

I wonder how many wish they did, now.

[Tedballgame]

Understood SG. Thankfully I was in a wedding last night and was absolutely obliterated when the game ended. Filled the pain. What the Yanks did this year was unprecedented. We had 30 different players on the IL. A full roster is 25. We had 25 guys plus 5 backups on the injured list. That’s insane. To recap

 

We lost the runner up for ROY, Andujar, for the season on day 3.

Stanton plays in 19 games due to being entirely snakebit.

Severino spends the first 5 months on the shelf.

Montgomery is on the shelf due to TJS and is delayed 2 months due to shoulder tendonitis

Sanchez has two stints on the IL for leg issues

Judge missed two months with an oblique

Voit misses a month and pretty much isn’t the same due to a Sports hernia

EE gets dealt for, breaks a wrist then pulls an oblique

Bird and Ellsbury miss the whole year, no big loss

Paxton missed three weeks with a knee and goes into the postseason with sciatica

Hicks tears his UCL

Tauchman misses 6 weeks with a calf issue

Frazier misses 3 weeks with an ankle

Estrada misses a month with a leg issue

Gregorius missed the first two months coming off TJS

Betances misses 5 months with a shoulder issue and tears his Achilles on his return

Heller missed the year with TJS

Loaisiga missed 2 months with a shoulder issue

CC was on the DL for awhile with knee and shoulder issues

Hale looks good early then misses the year with a back issue

German spent 2 weeks on the IL with a hip then is suspended for beating his GF

Happ spent time on the IL with biceps tendinitis

 

There were more, but those are off the top of my head. And they still were fighting for a WS berth. They didn’t quit when they had every excuse to. All players should return healthy for 2020. Give us an ace, keep the pen strong and make a run in 2020 when the other super teams should be a bit weaker

That is such an impressive list. You know what you won? NOTHING. Those stats are for losers. The Yankees couldn't get it done when it mattered. The year is a failure!

[Tedballgame]

And some posters are most prominent only when the Yankees lose.

Been here all year pal!

[jacksonianmarch]

Me, too.

 

People said I was crazy for wanting the Yanks to sign both Harper and Machado.

 

I wonder how many wish they did, now.

 

I wanted Machado, but Cashman was far wiser in being happy with what we had and then getting Lemahieu as insurance.

[harmony]

Been here all year pal!

With a three-week gap as the Yankees swept the Twins in the postseason.

[jung]

With a three-week gap as the Yankees swept the Twins in the postseason.

 

The lesson is starting pitching still wins championships Manfred can push power baseball all he wants. He has juiced the ball itself to kingdom come.

 

The yanks can keep hulking up and bulking up all they want. Go on Yanks keep signing those relief arms too. You end up with the booby prize. A division flag. Whoopdie-ding-dong. Nobody can accuse me of calling the division flag nothing when somebody else wins it. Everybody on this forum knows I consider Division flags over a house meaningless whether it is our house or somebody else's house. If you can't at least raise a LCS flag over your house, don't raise anything at all.

 

All a Division Crown flag over your house says is that somebody else in your league was better than you that year. You got beat.

[moonslav59]

How many new threads are there on the Yankees losing?

 

I can't keep up!

[d-money]

Already the post talking about gerrit cole. Is that even possible? These asswipes gotta have a damn budget. This is ridiculous.

[FredLynn]

Been here all year pal!

 

Can we change that next year?

[notin]

Already the post talking about gerrit cole. Is that even possible? These asswipes gotta have a damn budget. This is ridiculous.

 

Yankee fan want Gerrit Cole. Cole reportedly wants the west coast.

 

So maybe Madison Bumgarner as the consolation prize...