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It all depends on how he does tonight . If he gets a couple of hits tonight , he might be okay and worth keeping . If he goes hitless tonight , he is finished and should be dumped .

 

Yep, his status is day-to-day LOL

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Exactly.

 

And he is now showing signs of life. Don't break up our outstanding outfield. I just hope the FO finds a way to pay them all enough to do that.

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Mr. Pop Fly himself should be trade bait at this point. Well rested or tired as a dog in August..

he looks lifeless right now and this team needs a few BP arms.

Hopefully he has a little hot streak in the next few games to make it more enticing.

 

I'm not usually one to go along with ideas like this, and even though we have no OF'er to take his place, I'm done with Beni.

 

5 demerit points each for you two.

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Be patient with Beni.

 

I agree with being patient with Beni.

 

Beni is only turning 25 in a few days and has been a solid player in his career so far. You guys have short term memory I guess.

 

5 merit points each for you three.

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The St. Louis Blues fan is back on track because of tweaks in his batting stance, but what is odd is how many times he has not been able to judge the fly balls near the Monster. We need Yaz to go out there and teach him to play the angles better. He's not making the diving catches like he was last year and before, but he still has the arm and he made a nice play to gun out Encarnacion just in the last game alone. Look, Beni is a great player in a bad long-season slump, but he's coming out on a tear now. Lynn had weird bad years too (injuries that prompted it), then went absolutely bonkers in 1979 (stronger upper body, worked out on the then new exercise/weight machines--Nautilius). Beni may have to use some exotic PEDs to get that upper body strength. Anyway, love Beni, and glad Cora or Dombro didn't do something hasty--like trade him...ugh. Anyway, love the Blues fan, hate him and love him.
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Look, Beni is a great player in a bad long-season slump, but he's coming out on a tear now.

 

I think Beni is a very good player. It's actually kind of a weird misconception that he's been having a long slump or a lousy season.

 

OPS by month:

 

April 754

May 792

June 827

July 826

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Maybe package him up with Devers and Bogaerts for a good middle reliever. (I'd include Bradley, but you can't trade him now because his value isn't great enough).
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Maybe package him up with Devers and Bogaerts for a good middle reliever. (I'd include Bradley, but you can't trade him now because his value isn't great enough).

 

Or... rather than breakup the lineup to get a role player (and I think/hope you were being sarcastic), maybe Dombrowski could wake up from his long winter’s nap and make the occasional waiver claim on a relief pitcher...

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It all depends on how he does tonight . If he gets a couple of hits tonight , he might be okay and worth keeping . If he goes hitless tonight , he is finished and should be dumped .

 

Yes his entire career should ride on one game...

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Brnintendi will be fine. I’ve seen to this personally.

 

I dropped him from my fantasy team. That ought to fix him

 

.821 OPS since I dropped him entering tonight’s game (in which he has homered)...

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Crickets on this thread are real. :cool:

 

I'll be the first to admit that he has turned it around as of late. However, if the right deal comes along, I wouldn't hesitate.

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I'll be the first to admit that he has turned it around as of late. However, if the right deal comes along, I wouldn't hesitate.

 

Trading him would be nutty. We have Betts and JBJ free agents after 2020. We have no promising outfielders in the system.

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Trading him would be nutty. We have Betts and JBJ free agents after 2020. We have no promising outfielders in the system.

 

Point taken. It will be interesting to see how the FO decides to navigate through that.. don't forget JD. Although, if I am him, I'm not sure if I want to opt out at this point.

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Trading any pre-arb or first arb year players makes little sense, unless we obtain a team controlled, low cost player in return.

 

To me, the most likely regular to be traded now or next winter is JBJ. He can be replaced with a low cost, defensive FA.

 

Keep ERod.

 

Keep Devers, Beni, Barnes & Vaz.

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Trading any pre-arb or first arb year players makes little sense, unless we obtain a team controlled, low cost player in return.

 

To me, the most likely regular to be traded now or next winter is JBJ. He can be replaced with a low cost, defensive FA.

 

Keep ERod.

 

Keep Devers, Beni, Barnes & Vaz.

 

We can't get Betts to agree to a contract before he reaches FA status, but he still is a keeper, provided his contract demands are close to his true value. I agree that JBJ is the most likely field player to be traded as he has value and probably is replaceable with equal stats at less money. Porcello, Moreland and Pearce will also go, which should clear some competitive balance cap space for 2020.

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Crickets on this thread are real. :cool:

 

I don’t mind keeping Beni. It is true that he isn’t making plays coming in on the ball like he did last year. As you know I like defense.

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I'll be the first to admit that he has turned it around as of late. However, if the right deal comes along, I wouldn't hesitate.

 

Good that you are not the GM.

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I don’t mind keeping Beni. It is true that he isn’t making plays coming in on the ball like he did last year. As you know I like defense.

 

We are talking about a Boston Red Sox leftfielder, aren't we? You know, the same job held by Ted Williams, Manny Ramirez, etc, etc. Sox leftfielders are paid to hit and hopefully play the green monster acceptably well. FWIW, last year Beni's DWAR was -.6. This year it's -.1. Thanks to his OPS of .827, his overall WAR is 2.3, 5th best in MLB. And the team control thing. Yeah, probably a keeper.

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We are talking about a Boston Red Sox leftfielder, aren't we? You know, the same job held by Ted Williams, Manny Ramirez, etc, etc. Sox leftfielders are paid to hit and hopefully play the green monster acceptably well. FWIW, last year Beni's DWAR was -.6. This year it's -.1. Thanks to his OPS of .827, his overall WAR is 2.3, 5th best in MLB. And the team control thing. Yeah, probably a keeper.

 

there are 3 sentences in my post that you responded to. let me know which one you take exception to.

1. I don’t mind keeping Beni.

2. It is true that he isn’t making plays coming in on the ball like he did last year.

3. As you know I like defense.

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there are 3 sentences in my post that you responded to. let me know which one you take exception to.

1. I don’t mind keeping Beni.

2. It is true that he isn’t making plays coming in on the ball like he did last year.

3. As you know I like defense.

 

Be glad to. Heaven help any of us who don't value defense, but the Red Sox left field position is almost uniquely one that requires less defense than any other, with the possible exception of DH. As for no longer coming in on balls--remember, please, we are talking about the shortest left field in MLB, MILB, and maybe even Little League--why is his DWAR appreciably better than last year's?

 

And you "don't mind keeping" Beni? Talk about damning with faint praise. His cumulative WAR with the Sox is 9.3, and his cumulative salary is $1.9M. He was a great bargain when he came up and still is. More to the point, the Sox do not have another outfielder--except for Mookie of course--with anywhere near his value.

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so you are going to respond to #2 with dWAR? dwar has zero value to me so your response using dwar is meaningless. i watch every game. 162 of them. every season. my eyes show me exactly how our LFer is playing Defense in 2019 compared to 2018. he is not getting to sinking line drives in 2019 like he did in 2018. do you want to debate that? if so, please use something besides the severely flawed dwar stat. war is not a conversation ender....remember????

 

i dont mind keeping beni. some on this thread were looking to trade him. trade him for a starter or a reliever. i dont mind keeping beni and not trading him for a starter or reliever. where is the argument? you would like to trade him?

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Inside Edge Fielding

Unlikely (10-40%)

2018: 43%

2019: 0%

 

Even (40-60%)

2018: 50%

2019: 0%

 

Likely (60-90%)

2018: 100%

2019: 86%

Edited by Slasher9

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