A Realistic View at 2019: Part II

[dgalehouse]

The pen is not fine.

 

My question to you is, would the pen be better if the starters were performing up to their expectations, including Eovaldi and Price not being on the IL?

 

One of the reasons I was concerned about the bullpen right from the get go was the way the game is played today . Starters just don't go deep in games very often . Much is left up to the bullpen. We just saw Price , who was pitching well , removed after five innings. Same has happened with Sale . Maybe that will change . Maybe it won't.

[dgalehouse]

{Raises her hand proudly and excitedly}

 

Not only for baseball, but because I also teach Geometry.

 

I think I can fairly say that old Pythagaras knew a lot more about geometry than about baseball.

[notin]

I think I can fairly say that old Pythagaras knew a lot more about geometry than about baseball.

 

That it didn’t exist for a couple of millennia after he passed away might be a contributing factor...

[dgalehouse]

That it didn’t exist for a couple of millennia after he passed away might be a contributing factor...

 

That would play into it, yes .

[Slasher9]

so do we see some HR Derby records obliterated tonight???

[OH FOY]

Guerrero won the Double AA HR Derby last year. Amazing last year Double AA, this year million bucks, he's my favorite. Young Buck that wont get tired.

[Kimmi]

ERod is going deeper into games more often this season than in the past. His last outing was limited to 5 innings by a 2 hour rain delay. He was well on his way to another 6+ inning outing. Cora needs to stop pampering Price and let him go deeper when he is pitching well and getting outs. Porcello’s problem is not that he isn’t going deep into games, but rather that he sucks this year.

 

ERod has been doing a better job this season. Still, as a whole, the rotation is not pitching as many innings as they were expected to pitch. I posted a stat a few days ago that show they had pitched about 50 fewer innings this season to date than they did last season. That's a problem.

[Kimmi]

One of the reasons I was concerned about the bullpen right from the get go was the way the game is played today . Starters just don't go deep in games very often . Much is left up to the bullpen. We just saw Price , who was pitching well , removed after five innings. Same has happened with Sale . Maybe that will change . Maybe it won't.

 

No doubt that starters don't go as deep as they used to. However, our starters were supposed to be a strength of this team and were supposed to be able to get deeper into games than they have been getting. The starters not getting the job done most definitely has an impact on how effective the pen can be.

[OH FOY]

According to Joel Sherman, Sox in early talks on Zach Wheeler. Watched the Mets games, he's starting to get it back, throws now at 94-95. Edited July 8, 2019 by OH FOY!

[OH FOY]

Sox have the 4th most difficult strength of remaining schedule, of the Contenders.

Overall .505

Home 3rd toughest .498 Winning % of Opponents.

Road, 3rd toughest .513 Winning % of Opponents.

Yanks 6th overall toughest .484 winning % overall.

Rays 9th overall toughest .461 winning % overall.

[bkzwhitestrican]

I could see Mets management shipping Wheeler off to Boston at a discount just to spite the Yankees. And then they'll probably trade for Chris Davis.

[OH FOY]

Wheeler is a FA after this season. I bet he would love to pitch for a contender, so he could get some exposure. He's owed 1.9+ rest of year.

[Jasonbay44]

Wheeler, depending on cost, would be a nice get.

[a700hitter]

ERod has been doing a better job this season. Still, as a whole, the rotation is not pitching as many innings as they were expected to pitch. I posted a stat a few days ago that show they had pitched about 50 fewer innings this season to date than they did last season. That's a problem.

That is mainly because the 5th spot has been a black hole and Porcello, normall an innings eater, is pitching terribly.

[moonslav59]

Sox have the 4th most difficult strength of remaining schedule, of the Contenders.

Overall .505

Home 3rd toughest .498 Winning % of Opponents.

Road, 3rd toughest .513 Winning % of Opponents.

Yanks 6th overall toughest .484 winning % overall.

Rays 9th overall toughest .461 winning % overall.

 

I'd like to see how tough each schedule is after taking away the head-to-head games.

 

For example, the Yanks may have an "easier schedule" because they play the Sox schedule instead of us playing the Yanks. It's an equally tough game for both teams, IMO.

 

If you count those games as even, then maybe that changes things.

[a700hitter]

I could see Mets management shipping Wheeler off to Boston at a discount just to spite the Yankees. And then they'll probably trade for Chris Davis.

The Mets in recent years have not been getting anyone of value when they dump their expiring players. I'd rather have Bum, but Wheeler would do.

[a700hitter]

No doubt that starters don't go as deep as they used to. However, our starters were supposed to be a strength of this team and were supposed to be able to get deeper into games than they have been getting. The starters not getting the job done most definitely has an impact on how effective the pen can be.

ERod's innings through the 1st 3 months are up 10 over last year. Price's innings are down due to a DL stint and Cora pampering. Sale is also being pampered. If people object to the word pampered, maybe "preserved" is a better word. Cora needs to start riding those horses.

[notin]

The Mets in recent years have not been getting anyone of value when they dump their expiring players. I'd rather have Bum, but Wheeler would do.

 

 

I don’t think that’s intentional...

[OH FOY]

I'd like to see how tough each schedule is after taking away the head-to-head games.

 

For example, the Yanks may have an "easier schedule" because they play the Sox schedule instead of us playing the Yanks. It's an equally tough game for both teams, IMO.

 

If you count those games as even, then maybe that changes things.

 

Not sure what you mean. It is what it is, is my thinking.

[OH FOY]

Listening about Bumgarner, one of the reasons he has a No-Trade clause is so he can negotiate with that team on a extension. He's not against coming to Boston, just as long as you pay for him.

[moonslav59]

ERod's innings through the 1st 3 months are up 10 over last year. Price's innings are down due to a DL stint and Cora pampering. Sale is also being pampered. If people object to the word pampered, maybe "preserved" is a better word. Cora needs to start riding those horses.

 

That's a bit deceiving.

 

He had just 99.1 IP over his first 18 starts, last year, and he has 102.2 after 18 starts this year. That's 10 more outs over 18 starts, which is nice, but it doesn't make up for this...

 

I love seeing ERod go deeper, but his ERA is 0.63 higher, and his WHIP has gone up 0.08.

 

The team was 15-3 in his first 18 starts last year, and his ERA was 3.62. (It went to 3.34 after his 20th game.)

 

The team is 13-5 in his starts, this year...still really good!

 

Those 10 outs make a difference on a struggling pen but so do the two more ER's allowed over those 3.1 more IP.

 

 

 

[moonslav59]

Not sure what you mean. It is what it is, is my thinking.

 

When you compare the remaining Yankee games, the Red Sox record is much worse than the Yankee record, so the head-to-head games between the two tilts the winning percentage in NY's favor as having an easier schedule.

 

I'd like to know the winning % of the remaining teams the Yanks and Sox play minus the Sox-Yanks games.

 

I count the head to head games as equally challenging to both teams, but our winning% is less than their's, so it makes their schedule look easier than maybe it is.

 

Who has the easier schedule beyond the head-to-head games.

 

Same with TB vs BOS.

[a700hitter]

I don’t think that’s intentional...

LOL! It almost entirely attributable to organizational incompetence.

[OH FOY]

Angels have the toughest, followed by the Texas, then the A's, then the Sox.

[a700hitter]

Not sure what you mean. It is what it is, is my thinking.

So, I am not the only one.

[d-money]

The Yankees looking at starting pitching like they really need more.

[Swiharts Ghost]

The Yankees looking at starting pitching like they really need more.

 

Well if Zach Wheeler is the guy he's a solid number 2 .Having Price ,Sale Wheeler in a series could be the sauce .

[OH FOY]

Anybody watching this HR derby?

[harmony]

Angels have the toughest, followed by the Texas, then the A's, then the Sox.

It's tough playing in an AL West that lacks teams at the low competition of the Baltimore Orioles and Toronto Blue Jays.

[d-money]

Anybody watching this HR derby?

 

Haven’t watched in years. Does berman still do it?