Chavis

[mvp 78]

if chavis keeps raking and doesnt make too many goofs at 2b....pedroia is hurting the team if he comes back and forces chavis down. would be a bad look for him.

 

But Pedroia is great defensively? Isn’t that more important than offense?!?!?

[moonslav59]

Trade Pedroia?

 

I doubt there are any takers, and Pedey has no trade rights.

 

If there's a high-priced RP'er out there someone is looking to dump, and Pedey wants to play there, then maybe a 1-1 trade might be slightly possible, but I think he'll have to be DFA'd, if he fails or gets hurt this next call-up, assuming nobody else gets hurt and forces a roster squeeze.

[moonslav59]

But Pedroia is great defensively? Isn’t that more important than offense?!?!?

 

Not if he can't even play.

[mvp 78]

They aren’t DFA’ing Pedey.

[mvp 78]

Not if he can't even play.

 

That’s a horse of a different color.

[Bellhorn04]

But Pedroia is great defensively? Isn’t that more important than offense?!?!?

 

WAR says no. Chavis already has a 1.0 bWAR.

[moonslav59]

That’s a horse of a different color.

 

No, that's the horse named Pedey.

[jung]

They aren’t DFA’ing Pedey.

 

The team owes Pedey $12M per till after the 2021 season and the business side of the Red Sox is very PR conscience...quite possibly the most PR conscience org in business, right up there with LA. So they are in something of a box on Pedey.

 

Best the Sox can hope for IMO is Pedey voluntarily giving it up. Maybe they buy him out of his remaining deal.

 

Chavis should stay but be moved around the diamond. He should play some 1st some 3rd and as little 2nd as possible. If they truly want him to be a 2nd baseman, he has to learn the position and this is no place to learn as much as he has to learn. As for his hitting, lets see where he is when the league discovers the hole or holes in his swing. Every hitter has them. Positionally he looks like more of a 1st baseman to me than a 2nd baseman.

 

We have $12M invested in 1st base now and I am not sure that investment would make sense were it not for DD trying to take as much advantage of the young players in his everyday lineup and his rotation as he can before the window closes. Past the 2019 season having $12M invested the way we have it at 1st base now likely makes no sense at all.

[Thunder]

Trade Pedroia?

 

You've been saying this for years, and it's finally become a not so crazy idea. I think he's a lifer, however. He'll retire before we cut him or trade him

[Slasher9]

It is an option, and maybe in a few weeks Chavis might make the Sox consider that option. Right now, I think they’ve forgotten about it...

 

agreed.

[OH FOY]

I went to the games last year, when he just got back from suspension, in Hartford. He has worked on his swing, for the better. He was dropping his hands, and Striking out like a mother. Looked totally overmatched at Double AA. He now pulls his hands back, and waits on the Pitch, without dropping them. Fantastic. Excellent, Basic hitting. Keeping it simple is the best, when you have hands like him.

Always had the lower body power, now he is using his hands too. Stay the course Michael in Fenway, this kid could be really dangerous.

[Slasher9]

But Pedroia is great defensively? Isn’t that more important than offense?!?!?

 

i dont think we can still consider him great defensively. the knee is too important for middle infield.

also, we are talking about crazy offense right now. .725 slugging. slugging...not ops. insane. even if pedey was back 100% i would keep chavis in the lineup until if/when he cools off. Lou Gehrig subbed in for an injured player at one point in time....

[mvp 78]

You've been saying this for years, and it's finally become a not so crazy idea. I think he's a lifer, however. He'll retire before we cut him or trade him

 

It was a fine idea back then. It’s dumb now because nobody would want him.

[Maxbialystock]

The team owes Pedey $12M per till after the 2021 season and the business side of the Red Sox is very PR conscience...quite possibly the most PR conscience org in business, right up there with LA. So they are in something of a box on Pedey.

 

Best the Sox can hope for IMO is Pedey voluntarily giving it up. Maybe they buy him out of his remaining deal.

 

Chavis should stay but be moved around the diamond. He should play some 1st some 3rd and as little 2nd as possible. If they truly want him to be a 2nd baseman, he has to learn the position and this is no place to learn as much as he has to learn. As for his hitting, lets see where he is when the league discovers the hole or holes in his swing. Every hitter has them. Positionally he looks like more of a 1st baseman to me than a 2nd baseman.

 

We have $12M invested in 1st base now and I am not sure that investment would make sense were it not for DD trying to take as much advantage of the young players in his everyday lineup and his rotation as he can before the window closes. Past the 2019 season having $12M invested the way we have it at 1st base now likely makes no sense at all.

 

Ahem. All your uses of the verb "should" suggest you think Cora is a dummy for playing Chavis at 2B. Far from it. He is trying to get the best hitters in the lineup, and right now it's really hard to argue with an infield of Devers, Bogaerts, Chavis, and Moreland.

 

I would further argue I think Chavis is already better at 2b than Nunez, who has a bad glove and is terrible on popups or flies to short RF, where Chavis is pretty darn good. Chavis definitely needs work on turning the DP when he makes the throw to 1b.

 

Devers has made a ton of errors, some of them costly, at 3b, but he's still there because of that bat and the hope he will improve his defense.

[notin]

You've been saying this for years, and it's finally become a not so crazy idea. I think he's a lifer, however. He'll retire before we cut him or trade him

 

 

No team will trade for Pedroia unless it’s a very lopsided deal. And Pedroia is a 10-5 player so he can reject any trade...

[jung]

Ahem. All your uses of the verb "should" suggest you think Cora is a dummy for playing Chavis at 2B. Far from it. He is trying to get the best hitters in the lineup, and right now it's really hard to argue with an infield of Devers, Bogaerts, Chavis, and Moreland.

 

I would further argue I think Chavis is already better at 2b than Nunez, who has a bad glove and is terrible on popups or flies to short RF, where Chavis is pretty darn good. Chavis definitely needs work on turning the DP when he makes the throw to 1b.

 

Devers has made a ton of errors, some of them costly, at 3b, but he's still there because of that bat and the hope he will improve his defense.

 

Except when a LH pitcher is starting for the opponent. Then its Chavis, Nunez, X and Devers around the infield. Pearce is a waste of time. So he does not help you the way he did last year. At the moment I would take Devers against a LH pitcher before I would take Pearce against anybody.

 

And...I never said Cora was a dummy. You should stop trying to read minds as you are not good at it and you should stop trying to put words in people's mouths as that is at best discourteous.

Edited May 6, 2019 by jung

[bosoxmal]

Someome ;eft a post suggesting it might be a good idea to trade this guy while his value was up there thro thiriugh the roof. This, because hispdf effects will be gone and he won't be hitting 45- ft home runs.

 

I can't find the post (the macroD doesn't help), but I wanted to point out that a 420 ft HR counts , too. Also, I don't doubt that his other skills will improve. Defense, pitch recognition, knnowledge of opposing pitchers,. God, look at all those things Devers has learned in the past year!!!

 

I'm not sure most folks (who haven't seen every pitch) have no idea where this fellow is heading!

 

Williams, Foxx, but with both in theire prime instead of one coming and one going. You can take that to the bank!

[harmony]

Michael Chavis and Will Middlebrooks in a comparison of the first 12 games of their respective MLB careers:

 

MC 47 PA, .289/.426/.553/.978

WM 53 PA, .300/.340/.640/.980

Michael Chavis and Will Middlebrooks in a comparison of the first 15 games of their respective MLB careers:

 

MC 63 PA, .333/.460/.725/1.186, 13 R, 6 HR, 13 RBI

WM 64 PA, .262/.297/.541/.838. 9 R, 4 HR, 14 RBI

[Bellhorn04]

Michael Chavis and Will Middlebrooks in a comparison of the first 15 games of their respective MLB careers:

 

MC 63 PA, .333/.460/.725/1.186, 13 R, 6 HR, 13 RBI

WM 64 PA, .262/.297/.541/.838. 9 R, 4 HR, 14 RBI

 

It's ovah!

[Kimmi]

Michael Chavis and Will Middlebrooks in a comparison of the first 15 games of their respective MLB careers:

 

MC 63 PA, .333/.460/.725/1.186, 13 R, 6 HR, 13 RBI

WM 64 PA, .262/.297/.541/.838. 9 R, 4 HR, 14 RBI

 

I'll never forget Middlebrooks saying that 'he lost the fire' when playing for the pennant chasing Red Sox.

 

How does a youngster just starting off in the majors lose the fire? That didn't sit well with me.

[moonslav59]

I'll never forget Middlebrooks saying that 'he lost the fire' when playing for the pennant chasing Red Sox.

 

How does a youngster just starting off in the majors lose the fire? That didn't sit well with me.

 

They should have traded him that night.

[Larry Cook]

They should have traded him that night.

 

I am willing to bet the mortgage that an attractive young female was involved,

[moonslav59]

I am willing to bet the mortgage that an attractive young female was involved,

 

Probably right, but just think about how many people would give their left nut to get the chance he got...

[notin]

Probably right, but just think about how many people would give their left nut to get the chance he got...

 

 

Are you referring to MLB or Jenny Dell?

[moonslav59]

Are you referring to MLB or Jenny Dell?

 

Not the PC answer, but I'd give both nuts to the latter.

[Bellhorn04]

Jeezus. Back to baseball please.

[Thunder]

One more point on the Jenny Dell/Middlebrooks thing. Jenny Dell's career has really skyrocketed, while Will's quickly died. She got fired from NESN for her relations with him, but that only served as the launching pad. Pretty interesting stuff...

[Slasher9]

guerin > dell

[Thunder]

guerin > dell

 

Agreed. Probably the first time in history, though, that a woman has benefited more from having sex than the man

[mvp 78]

Agreed. Probably the first time in history, though, that a woman has benefited more from having sex than the man

 

That's a big no for me buddy.