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jacksonianmarch

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Maybe he would. The problem is, he seems to have command at lower velocities and cannot command the upper eschelon velo. Maybe it comes, maybe it doesn’t. Sale would need to pump the 97 mph heat at the corners to be ace like again. Right now, Chris “Freaking” Sale freaking sucks.

 

he hasnt had command at all no matter what the velo so your point is not accurate. he has been missing spots with the FB all season long...no matter if it was 89 or 97...

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It's not just about velocity. Shutting him down can give him a chance to figure things out. Sox are going nowhere this season. You can't win 'em all.

 

:eek: :eek: :eek:

 

The Sox will be playing October baseball.

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Sale should be upset. He gave up 4 runs in 5 innings to a lineup that had Austin Romine, Gio Urshela and Michael Tauchman in it. He didn’t get beat by an offensive juggernaut here. Our 8 position players on the DL could lead an offense to the playoffs. If Sale faced our real lineup, he’d have been out in the 3rd

 

The way baseball works, if Sale faced your real lineup, he probably would have pitched a complete game shutout.

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fangraphs odds mean nothing . They don't take bets on it and they change all the time . Overrated .

 

But those who do take bets on it base their odds on the moment as much as projection, so this slow start has already lessened the Sox odds. I think Vegas is giving the Yanks around 95 wins and Boston around 91. This is a substantial change from the season's beginning. (The Yanks get the higher projection because 12-13 players are missing and they still lead the Sox)

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fangraphs odds mean nothing . They don't take bets on it and they change all the time . Overrated .

 

But Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight.com (and formerly of Fangraphs.com) has proven remarkably adept at predicting the baseball postseason participants and election results...

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But Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight.com (and formerly of Fangraphs.com) has proven remarkably adept at predicting the baseball postseason participants and election results...

 

I called my local bookmaker , Paul " Needlenose " Minagge , trying to get those fangraphs odds on the Sox reaching the playoffs. He laughed and hung up on me .

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As of the moment I write this, FanGraphs and FiveThirtyEight each give the Red Sox a 40 percent chance of advancing to the postseason:

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/standings/playoff-odds

 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-mlb-predictions/

Despite Wednesday's disappointing loss, FanGraphs and FiveThirtyEight give the Red Sox 50.9 percent and 37 percent chances, respectively, of advancing to the postseason:

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/standings/playoff-odds

 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-mlb-predictions/

Kimmi Boston Red Sox

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In what league?

 

If there is some brutal rain in September, they could have a makeup game in October.

 

Come on guys, keep the faith!

 

There's a long way to go in this season.

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Posters gave up last year, too!

 

 

When? And how dumb were they?

 

This team started out 17-2 or something like that. Was the “2” proof of fallibility and therefore too much for some fans?

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Come on guys, keep the faith!

 

There's a long way to go in this season.

 

Last years team found ways to win. This years team finds ways to lose. I have yet to see reason for optimism.

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Our players did not get hardly any work in during spring training. To our guys it is March 19th and that is how they are playing.

 

We will get better over the course of the next two or three weeks.

 

I suspect desperate Dave cooked up this ridiculously stupid strategy because Cora has won a world series as a player and he knows the importance of turning the page and getting guys ready for 2019.

 

The question is... how far out of it will we be by the time our regulars are playing well? Thanks Dave!

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Our players did not get hardly any work in during spring training. To our guys it is March 19th and that is how they are playing.

 

We will get better over the course of the next two or three weeks.

 

I suspect desperate Dave cooked up this ridiculously stupid strategy because Cora has won a world series as a player and he knows the importance of turning the page and getting guys ready for 2019.

 

The question is... how far out of it will we be by the time our regulars are playing well? Thanks Dave!

I think it was Cora's idea.
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Last years team found ways to win. This years team finds ways to lose. I have yet to see reason for optimism.

 

Things are never as bad as they look when your team is going bad.

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I think it was Cora's idea.

 

Cora has already said that next year , pitchers and catchers will report on January 2nd with position players due in late Jan 3rd. There will be 4 days of nothing but jumping jacks, squats and bunting exercises to get started.

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When? And how dumb were they?

 

This team started out 17-2 or something like that. Was the “2” proof of fallibility and therefore too much for some fans?

 

Don't ask me why, but it happened... (mostly on game threads)

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It's looked great since the moment the ink dried.

 

Well, the velocity issues were a little concerning for a while there.

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Well, the velocity issues were a little concerning for a while there.

 

I will admit, I was a tiny bit concerned, but he passed the physical and said he was fine. The guy barely pitched since he went out with the injury last year, including little work this spring.

 

I like how things are lining up, and Cora's resting plan this spring may prove to be genius.

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He found his velocity last night. He’s been a K machine even at lower velocities, but he’s Chris Sale when he’s got 95 in the tank. We saw this with CC in 2012-2013. The velocity would fluctuate and he’d be a world beater when he had 95, and a bum when he has 91. Sale seems to have adjusted to the loss of velocity then got it back for a night. He’d be better prepared for his future if he pitched like he had no velocity and when he has it, he’ll be filthy

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