Devers

[Slasher9]

I'm ashamed of you right now.

 

just now? i'm ashamed of me always....

it was long enough ago that the place to pull up the old posts is no longer in existence.

[harmony]

A bold prediction from RotoGraphs columnist Paul Sporer:

Rafael Devers goes .300/35/100/100/10

 

A modest first full season lowered the former mega-prospect’s stock a bit, but there’s still a ton of potential in this 22-year old bat. It’s telling that his down year still netted 21 homers in 490 PA. He’s a “best shape of his life” candidate as he admitted to carrying too much weight last year and worked hard with Xander Bogaerts (another guy I considered for a big bold prediction) to get fit and be lit.

 

The homers are probably the most stable part of this projection as it’s only seven more than his 650 PA pace from last year. Where this really becomes a bold prediction is tacking on 60 points to his batting average with major R/RBI numbers and a sneaky 10 SBs. If Devers emerges as I expect, he fits perfectly in the third spot of that lineup, in between Mookie Betts and J.D. Martinez.

https://fantasy.fangraphs.com/2019-bold-predictions/

[moonslav59]

A bold prediction from RotoGraphs columnist Paul Sporer:

 

https://fantasy.fangraphs.com/2019-bold-predictions/

 

Maybe a bit bold but certainly attainable. Heck, he could hit 45 120.

[SCM33]

A bold prediction from RotoGraphs columnist Paul Sporer:

 

https://fantasy.fangraphs.com/2019-bold-predictions/

 

Maybe a bit bold but certainly attainable. Heck, he could hit 45 120.

 

So we are in agreement

 

45/120 is bold. Id be happy with 30+ this year, hitting in the .270-.280 range. If he is making that kind of contact, the other abstract numbers will be there by default with his potential (OB%,OPS,OPS+, WAR)

[moonslav59]

I'm thinking .270 32 105 is about right.

 

He could do .250 25 80 or .290 40 115 easily.

[SCM33]

I'm thinking .270 32 105 is about right.

 

Hopefully with an OB% in the .340-.350 range. Not high, but....he is 22, and that is a big jump from where he is now. Completely reasonable accomplishments.

[moonslav59]

Hopefully with an OB% in the .340-.350 range. Not high, but....he is 22, and that is a big jump from where he is now. Completely reasonable accomplishments.

 

If he hits 30+ with 100+ RBIs, I'd be ok with .310-.320 OB%, but if he is batting 3rd, we'd need better.

 

That's one reason I prefer Bogey & Pearce 3rd and Devers 5th/6th.

[harmony]

For what it's worth, Rafael Devers went for $2 on Saturday at my fantasy baseball auction. The minimum bid is $1 in the 10-team mixed league with 27-man rosters and $305 budgets. Miguel Andujar went for $8.

 

The difference in perception is interesting.

[moonslav59]

For what it's worth, Rafael Devers went for $2 on Saturday at my fantasy baseball auction. The minimum bid is $1 in the 10-team mixed league with 27-man rosters and $305 budgets. Miguel Andujar went for $8.

 

The difference in perception is interesting.

 

It will be interesting to see the final 2019 results between Devers & Andujar.

[Larry Cook]

It will be interesting to see the final 2019 results between Devers & Andujar.

 

I know spring training numbers have no real carry over to the regular season. But the adjustments devers made to his swing this offseason looked really good so far.

 

If he has a break out year and we get anything out of pedrioa, that be huge in making up for any unexpected regressions elsewhere in the lineup.

[Bellhorn04]

For what it's worth, Rafael Devers went for $2 on Saturday at my fantasy baseball auction. The minimum bid is $1 in the 10-team mixed league with 27-man rosters and $305 budgets. Miguel Andujar went for $8.

 

The difference in perception is interesting.

 

I think Devers is going to pay off nicely on that $2.

[harmony]

I think Devers is going to pay off nicely on that $2.

On that fantasy team, Rafael Devers is the third-base backup to Kris Bryant, who is also eligible in the outfield.

[mvp 78]

On that fantasy team, Rafael Devers (God) is the third-base backup to Kris Bryant (overrated bum), who is also eligible in the outfield.

 

You in the Talksox league this year?

[harmony]

You in the Talksox league this year?

No. I try to limit myself to one league per season.

 

In 2001 I joined my current league, which was formed in 1991. One of my closest friends is the lone remaining founding member.

[BillyWilliams]

It will be interesting to see the final 2019 results between Devers & Andujar.

 

Baseball-Reference had devers at 0.0 WAR last season and Andujar at 2.2 WAR.

 

I haven't looked at the projections for this season.

[mvp 78]

Baseball-Reference had devers at 0.0 WAR last season and Andujar at 2.2 WAR.

 

I haven't looked at the projections for this season.

 

Steamer has Devers at 2.4 and Andujar at 1.5.

 

Zips has Devers at 2.1 and Andujar at 2.0.

 

I think the big issue with the ratings is Andujar's defense and how it drags down his offense.

[BillyWilliams]

Steamer has Devers at 2.4 and Andujar at 1.5.

 

Zips has Devers at 2.1 and Andujar at 2.0.

 

I think the big issue with the ratings is Andujar's defense and how it drags down his offense.

 

While neither one of them will be confused with Brooks Robinson anytime soon I did read that Andujar worked with Adrian Beltre in the off season. Not a bad guy to try to help you along in my opinion.

[mvp 78]

While neither one of them will be confused with Brooks Robinson anytime soon I did read that Andujar worked with Adrian Beltre in the off season. Not a bad guy to try to help you along in my opinion.

 

Beltre is the best 3b of my lifetime and should be a first ballot HOFer.

[BillyWilliams]

Beltre is the best 3b of my lifetime and should be a first ballot HOFer.

 

I got to see the end of Robinson's career. Nettles was a pretty amazing with the glove as well.

 

No doubt in my mind Beltre is 1st ballot.

[Kimmi]

On that fantasy team, Rafael Devers is the third-base backup to Kris Bryant, who is also eligible in the outfield.

 

As I said before, the guy who dropped Devers is going to end up regretting his decision.

[SCM33]

Beltre is the best 3b of my lifetime and should be a first ballot HOFer.

 

I hated the Redsox for letting him walk after 1 year.

[SCM33]

Devers to hit 3rd in the lineup on opening day (night).

[notin]

I got to see the end of Robinson's career. Nettles was a pretty amazing with the glove as well.

 

No doubt in my mind Beltre is 1st ballot.

 

 

So you’re not bothered by his presence on the same failed drug test list as Ortiz? Or is your condemnation of failed drug tests limited to Red Sox players?

[mvp 78]

So you’re not bothered by his presence on the same failed drug test list as Ortiz? Or is your condemnation of failed drug tests limited to Red Sox players?

 

Beltre drank his milkshakes the right way!

[Bellhorn04]

So you’re not bothered by his presence on the same failed drug test list as Ortiz? Or is your condemnation of failed drug tests limited to Red Sox players?

 

LOL Billy's internet research is sometimes a little incomplete.

[BillyWilliams]

So you’re not bothered by his presence on the same failed drug test list as Ortiz? Or is your condemnation of failed drug tests limited to Red Sox players?

 

I wasn't aware that he was named as well.

 

That certainly changes my opinion then.

[mvp 78]

I wasn't aware that he was named as well.

 

That certainly changes my opinion then.

 

Why should it though?

[BillyWilliams]

Why should it though?

 

Because I'm not a big fan of juicers being in the Hall.

Edited March 28, 2019 by BillyWilliams

[mvp 78]

Because I'm not a big fan of juicers being in the Hall.

 

What about all the guys from the 70's who did greenies?

[BillyWilliams]

What about all the guys from the 70's who did greenies?

 

Well, we are all entitled to our opinions but I think there's a difference between greenies and steroids or HGH.

 

But that's my opinion, you may or may not agree.

 

Obviously most of the voters agree as far as the Hall is concerned as there are only a couple of guys like pedro and Pudge that were voted in while guys like Clemens and Bonds have been in limbo.