Who Should the Red Sox Trade For?

[vegasbob]

Whut? How the hell do catch that disease?

 

I have never heard of anyone contracting it.

 

Apparently , it is primarily a children's viral disease that he may have contracted while visiting a youth camp while on the DL

[fxkatt]

If the Yanks get Bumgarner, deGrom, or Syndergaard, I think we'd best make a move for a starter, no matter our current plans. Or a shut down reliever to rescue our 4-5 starters.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

I would trade for a 2b and a starting pitcher. I wouldn't bother trading for a relief arm. There is a chance that Pomeranz won't make it as a SP this year and the Red Sox will need to move him to the bullpen as a one inning reliever (to improve his velocity). Pomeranz pitched out of the bullpen a few years ago for the Red Sox and did OK. Due to injury, the Red Sox may decide to move Rodriguez to the bullpen in October, depending on when he returns. Finally, an argument could be made for moving Price to the bullpen in October. Thus, I would trade for a starter, knowing that I can move one or two of my lefty starters to the bullpen in October.

[cp176]

Jeez, thanks for the correction, cp. I apologize for my sloppy phrasing.

 

Sorry I guess but it is just me. Giving any one person credit for any win or any loss is absolute ******** in my way of looking at things. The only reason that I post on a thread dealing with the wonderful accomplishments of GMs is because i really cannot believe the great like or dislike for any of them in general. They play a substantial role - that is it. The constant comparison of a beginning GM like cCherington to a seasoned veteran like Dombrowski in my opinion is ridiculous - no comparison. If and when Ben Cherington gets another chance, I hope that he is ready for the job and that he succeeds.

[fxkatt]

I would trade for a 2b and a starting pitcher. I wouldn't bother trading for a relief arm. There is a chance that Pomeranz won't make it as a SP this year and the Red Sox will need to move him to the bullpen as a one inning reliever (to improve his velocity). Pomeranz pitched out of the bullpen a few years ago for the Red Sox and did OK. Due to injury, the Red Sox may decide to move Rodriguez to the bullpen in October, depending on when he returns. Finally, an argument could be made for moving Price to the bullpen in October. Thus, I would trade for a starter, knowing that I can move one or two of my lefty starters to the bullpen in October.

 

True. But I think the starter may be more important for the very reasons you just gave... if E-Rod and Pom are headed for the bullpen, then we really need a 4th starter for the playoffs--that is barring a dead-end in the play-in game. So, methinks a starter would be a greater need than second base. I'll take both tho.

[FredLynn]

Whut? How the hell do catch that disease?

 

I have never heard of anyone contracting it.

 

You have to be kidding me....10 day DL for THAT? The first few days of HFM disease (usually caused by Cocksackie virus, I believe) are rough-high fever, blisters that are most troublesome in the mouth (hard to eat). But its generally a five day illness and no one ever dies of it or even gets complications from it.

Overkill....

[moonslav59]

If the Yanks get Bumgarner, deGrom, or Syndergaard, I think we'd best make a move for a starter, no matter our current plans. Or a shut down reliever to rescue our 4-5 starters.

 

I hope the Yanks get one. It would mean their future would be less rosy.

 

I'm not worried. We have a very good team and compete with anyone, as is. Sure, I'd like a great set-up RP'er, but I don't think we should give up much for a 2Bman or SP'er.

 

Of course, if ERod, Pom or Wright can not come back, by all means, get a SP'er. I just hate getting 4-5 slot starters. Go for broke or just go with Johnson/Velazquez/Beeks/Haley is usually my mantra.

[Fan_since_Boggs]

True. But I think the starter may be more important for the very reasons you just gave... if E-Rod and Pom are headed for the bullpen, then we really need a 4th starter for the playoffs--that is barring a dead-end in the play-in game. So, methinks a starter would be a greater need than second base. I'll take both tho.

 

Agreed. I would rank starter as priority number one. 2b priority number two.

 

Wright might not come back at all. Trading for a guy who can pitch fourth in the rotation in October makes sense. The playoff rotation:

 

(1) Sale

(2) Porcello

(3) Rodriguez or Price (the other goes to the bullpen, hopefully Price to the bullpen)

(4) trade target (hopefully Z.Wheeler)

Edited July 23, 2018 by Fan_since_Boggs

[moonslav59]

Signing or trading for a 4/5 slot pitcher rarely works.

[Larry Cook]

Signing or trading for a 4/5 slot pitcher rarely works.

 

That is so true!

[dgalehouse]

There are very , very few really quality starters that might be available. And they are in demand and would cost plenty. The others are iffy and not much of an upgrade from what we have. I think Zach Britton should be the main focus.

[moonslav59]

There are very , very few really quality starters that might be available. And they are in demand and would cost plenty. The others are iffy and not much of an upgrade from what we have. I think Zach Britton should be the main focus.

 

Not my choice.

[notin]

You have to be kidding me....10 day DL for THAT? The first few days of HFM disease (usually caused by Cocksackie virus, I believe) are rough-high fever, blisters that are most troublesome in the mouth (hard to eat). But its generally a five day illness and no one ever dies of it or even gets complications from it.

Overkill....

 

As he doesn’t have a concussion, there isn’t a shorter term DL to put him on. And maybe the Mets need another starter in the meantime...

[Bellhorn04]

Sorry I guess but it is just me. Giving any one person credit for any win or any loss is absolute ******** in my way of looking at things.

 

Like I said it was sloppy phrasing. We won a World Series while he was GM. That's all I meant. I thought that should be obvious.

[cp176]

Like I said it was sloppy phrasing. We won a World Series while he was GM. That's all I meant. I thought that should be obvious.

 

In your case, it probably is obvious but in others not so much. it is a frustrating point for me. I freely admit that I think Dombrowski is a far better GM than Cherington was when he was here. That is pretty obvious too I guess. I just don't and never will give them the kind of credit that some people (many more than just one ) give either of these guys for the way the product performs on the field. Im glad that we seem to have competent leadership at the top but I am far more interested in what actually happens on the field.

[OH FOY]

There are very , very few really quality starters that might be available. And they are in demand and would cost plenty. The others are iffy and not much of an upgrade from what we have. I think Zach Britton should be the main focus.

 

I'm with you but Boy what a gamble. If you hit you get a dominate Pitcher, if not, well you tried. He's trending in right direction, 1.64 ERA last 30 days, but boy, such a short sample. Total Gamble. Got to eliminate Kelly from any High Leverage situations. Play-offs BP's are just as important for me to get last 9 Outs.

 

We play them good time to see what he got.

Edited July 23, 2018 by OH FOY!

[Bellhorn04]

I'm with you but Boy what a gamble. If you hit you get a dominate Pitcher, if not, well you tried. He's trending in right direction, 1.64 ERA last 30 days, but boy, such a short sample. Total Gamble. Got to eliminate Kelly from any High Leverage situations. Play-offs BP's are just as important for me to get last 9 Outs.

 

We play them good time to see what he got.

 

Britton seems like a good gamble considering his history. Which means multiple teams are in on him.

[notin]

f*** Britton.

 

While a lefty reliever would be nice, the Sox have bigger needs, namely rotation depth. Getting someone like Britton, who will maybe pitch 10 to 15 innings the rest of the way, is a waste of limited trade resources from the Sox...

[notin]

Play-offs BP's are just as important for me to get last 9 Outs.

 

 

In the postseason, bullpens are very coften required to get 12 outs, and occasionally more...

[moonslav59]

I'm with you but Boy what a gamble. If you hit you get a dominate Pitcher, if not, well you tried. He's trending in right direction, 1.64 ERA last 30 days, but boy, such a short sample. Total Gamble. Got to eliminate Kelly from any High Leverage situations. Play-offs BP's are just as important for me to get last 9 Outs.

 

We play them good time to see what he got.

 

I wouldn't eliminate Kelly just yet. He seems to run hot or cold. Maybe by October he'll be in a hot phase.

 

That being said, I think we should try to get a very good set-up man- just not Britton. Too many question marks for the price tag.

[moonslav59]

In the postseason, bullpens are very coften required to get 12 outs, and occasionally more...

 

Yes, but with the 5th starter moved to the pen and extra days off here and there, usually there is not an issue.

[Bellhorn04]

f*** Britton.

 

While a lefty reliever would be nice, the Sox have bigger needs, namely rotation depth. Getting someone like Britton, who will maybe pitch 10 to 15 innings the rest of the way, is a waste of limited trade resources from the Sox...

 

But if all goes well he might also pitch 10 critical innings in the postseason. That's where the value really is.

 

Not that I am stuck on Britton by any means, but another good late-inning guy would be nice to have.

[FredLynn]

f*** Britton.

 

While a lefty reliever would be nice, the Sox have bigger needs, namely rotation depth. Getting someone like Britton, who will maybe pitch 10 to 15 innings the rest of the way, is a waste of limited trade resources from the Sox...

 

IF ERod can make it back (big IF) then it would be a waste of our limited resources to sign a SP. Assuming Pomeranz can be a spot starter and Velasquez the same, we don't NEED another SP. Wright might eventually make it back as well. Thats 8. Sure it would be wonderful to have 9, but its a "waste of our limited resources".

[mvp 78]

IF ERod can make it back (big IF) then it would be a waste of our limited resources to sign a SP. Assuming Pomeranz can be a spot starter and Velasquez the same, we don't NEED another SP. Wright might eventually make it back as well. Thats 8. Sure it would be wonderful to have 9, but its a "waste of our limited resources".

 

That's a lot of assumptions. I think a trade for a guy like Fiers would be really cheap. Not a terrible idea. Sox have a ton of bullpen depth. Another arm would always be welcome, but it's not necessary.

[OH FOY]

7, 8, and 9th innings are won or lost in the Play-offs. Good start from your starter is good if game was only 6 innings. Your starter gets Whacked in Play-offs then it doesn't matter. Outs count.

KC won one and almost 2 without any big names, their BP was the difference. The way the game is nowadays. You could use your 5th starter to help. We have how many Starters now? Just a couple are injured. See what Pomeranz does 1st.

Edited July 23, 2018 by OH FOY!

[jacksonianmarch]

You need a guy like Britton. The bridge hasn’t been good of late and in the playoffs, you don’t have the luxury to let your starter figure it out. If he goes to Houston, you’re in trouble. If he goes to NYY, you’re in trouble. You might need to get him to keep him from NYY

[mvp 78]

You need a guy like Britton. The bridge hasn’t been good of late and in the playoffs, you don’t have the luxury to let your starter figure it out. If he goes to Houston, you’re in trouble. If he goes to NYY, you’re in trouble. You might need to get him to keep him from NYY

 

This just in: the best team in the league can't beat the team they lead in the standings by 5 games!

[jacksonianmarch]

We’re 4-3 vs your squad this year which is a pretty small sample size for sure, but we have two pitcher who your squad doesn’t hit well against vs only one who still has our number (Sale). The battle of the bullpens will be very important and if ours gets better while yours pulls back, we will beat you in a series

[mvp 78]

We’re 4-3 vs your squad this year which is a pretty small sample size for sure, but we have two pitcher who your squad doesn’t hit well against vs only one who still has our number (Sale). The battle of the bullpens will be very important and if ours gets better while yours pulls back, we will beat you in a series

 

We'll see if you guys even get by the WC.

[moonslav59]

You need a guy like Britton. The bridge hasn’t been good of late and in the playoffs, you don’t have the luxury to let your starter figure it out. If he goes to Houston, you’re in trouble. If he goes to NYY, you’re in trouble. You might need to get him to keep him from NYY

 

You can have him and deGrom. I hope you get both and trade away your future to get them.

 

We don't need Britton. He's too much of a question mark. You can have him.