A Realistic View at 2018: Part II

[Bellhorn04]

Adding ERod could really help.

 

Yuge.

[Slasher9]

Yuge.

 

yuuuuuuuuuge!

[Emp9]

Bigly even

[OH FOY]

From what I read today the plan is for E-Rod to do one more Rehab start, don't know where, and go from there, and see how he feels. His fastball hit 94, but his cutter was outstanding, according to Cora.

[dannycater]

EROD and Wright come to the rescue....

[moonslav59]

EROD and Wright come to the rescue....

 

It should help, but our starters have been doing pretty well, and the ones who are doing the least well are fixtures in the rotation.

[OH FOY]

I firmly believe E-Rod will be the next Sox Pitcher to throw a No-hitter. I also believe he has the most movement in the last 10 feet into the hitting zone, then any Pitcher on the Sox, including Sale. If he could ever get efficient, especially in the Play-offs, he could dominate. This one Ben gets a Thumbs Up!

[dannycater]

moon, I think both become assets as...relievers...especially Wright.

[dannycater]

Playoffs SP is pretty simple---Sale (if he doesn't have his shoulder fall off), Price and Porcello...but EROD and Wright supply that extra middle relief or even a long relief if a SP gets hammered early, or throws too many pitches. Then you don't have to rely so much on that back-end part of the setup pen. Velasquez is good. Barnes is okay. Kelly? Thornburg? Brasier? Kimbrel I have faith will be fine in his role.

[dannycater]

Hembree and Barnes are 1-inn guys and I'm okay with them (Workman I still like too).

[moonslav59]

Playoffs SP is pretty simple---Sale (if he doesn't have his shoulder fall off), Price and Porcello...but EROD and Wright supply that extra middle relief or even a long relief if a SP gets hammered early, or throws too many pitches. Then you don't have to rely so much on that back-end part of the setup pen. Velasquez is good. Barnes is okay. Kelly? Thornburg? Brasier? Kimbrel I have faith will be fine in his role.

 

We may need a 4th starter with a 2 games- day off- 2 games format.

[moonslav59]

moon, I think both become assets as...relievers...especially Wright.

 

Thing is, Johnson seems to do way better as a 4 inning starter.

 

I don't want to mess with ERod as RP'er. I start him game 4.

 

Wright and Velazquez would be nice long inning guys out of the pen.

 

Johnson might get shorted, even though he's been doing pretty well for the first 4-5 innings as a starter.

[moonslav59]

I firmly believe E-Rod will be the next Sox Pitcher to throw a No-hitter. I also believe he has the most movement in the last 10 feet into the hitting zone, then any Pitcher on the Sox, including Sale. If he could ever get efficient, especially in the Play-offs, he could dominate. This one Ben gets a Thumbs Up!

 

I love ERod, but I'd bet on Sale.

[OH FOY]

Sox are aiming at Aug. 30, 31st, for return, against White Sox, on E-Rod. Maybe he'll be face Kopech as Opposing Pitcher? I think he might, if Kopech is going every 5 days, he is scheduled for the 31st. Edited August 21, 2018 by OH FOY!

[dannycater]

Johnson is sort of this year's Dana Kiecker or Al Nipper. Or in other words, I'm going EROD, Wright before him. I like BJ, but he can get hurt very quickly in a playoff game start. But BJ is a better relief option than Pom and you have to have a lefty in some situations, so he might be better suited in that role. EROD will get his innings.

[Bellhorn04]

Johnson is sort of this year's Dana Kiecker or Al Nipper. Or in other words, I'm going EROD, Wright before him. I like BJ, but he can get hurt very quickly in a playoff game start. But BJ is a better relief option than Pom and you have to have a lefty in some situations, so he might be better suited in that role. EROD will get his innings.

 

danny, please do not invoke the memory of Al Nipper.

[jacksonianmarch]

Johnson has done his job. If Sale comes back and ERod return, you push BJ to the pen or mothball him for an off-season deal assuming Sale has nothing intervenable in the shoulder. Johnson is your best trade chip and should return you a big league impact reliever

[dannycater]

[dannycater]

[dannycater]

We can always buy a reliever...or not in this case...love this photo of Petrocelli shaking hands with one of the great relievers ever.

[dannycater]

f***ing Bowie Kuhn!!!! That basthid!!!

[a700hitter]

f***ing Bowie Kuhn!!!! That basthid!!!

Disallowing that sale was so ridiculous.

[moonslav59]

Disallowing that sale was so ridiculous.

 

"Sales."

 

The Yankees also were not allowed to buy Vida Blue.

[moonslav59]

OPS against over the last 28 days...

 

.282 Sale

.458 Brasier

.582 Price

.603 Porcello

.604 Workman

.661 Kelly

.686 Thornburg

.728 Eovaldi

.750 Johnson

.755 Barnes

.782 Velazquez

.790 Pomeranz

.799 Hembree

.868 Kimbrel

 

Pretty amazing we have only 1 guy over .800 and that guy is Kimbrel.

[moonslav59]

Seasonal OBP against

 

.209 Brasier

.239 Sale

.264 Kimbrel

.269 Workman

.281 Barnes

.290 Porcello

.297 ERod

.301 Price

.302 Poyner/ .305 Walden

.309 Wright

.311 Kelly

.312 Hembree

.313 Smith

.314 Thornburg

.319 Eovaldi

.320 Johnson

.342 Velazquez

.395 Pom

 

SLG against

.200 Braiser

.274 Barnes

.279 Sale

.314 Kelly

.326 Wright

.345 Kimbrel

.362 ERod

.394 Porcello

.398 Velazquez & Workman

.402 Hembree

.407 Price

.409 Eovaldi

.418 Johnson

.431 Smith

.444 Thornburg

.509 Pom

 

[moonslav59]

If our pen can pitch like their seasonal numbers, we could be alright.

 

OPS against

 

.409 Brasier

.555 Barnes

.608 Kimbrel

.624 Kelly

.635 Wright

.666 Workman

[moonslav59]

OPS Against as a SP'er:

 

.518 Sale

.659 ERod

.672 Wright

.684 Porcello

.708 Price

.727 Johnson

.728 Eovaldi

.763 Velazquez

.925 Pom

 

As RP'er

.409 Brasier

.555 Barnes

.575 Wright

.608 Kimbrel

.624 Kelly

.666 Workman

.703 Pom

.714 Hembree

.729 Velazquez

.744 Smith

.754 Johnson

.759 Thornburg

[dannycater]

From a pen standpoint, Barnes numbers impress me the most out of those stats.

[moonslav59]

From a pen standpoint, Barnes numbers impress me the most out of those stats.

 

Agree. Brasier's sample size is still a bit too small to get all worked up over, but he's getting there.

 

Barnes is basically 3rd in OBP against (larger sample size players) and first in SLG against (ahead of Sale!).

 

He's slipped up a little over the last month, but all RP'ers do.

 

This is not just a 2018 thing, either, he's been very good for 2 years.

 

2017-2018 (151 RP'ers qualifying)

 

MLB RP'er WAR

3. Kimbrel 4.4

17. Barnes 2.5

 

His 1.19 WHIP places him 56th.

 

 

[dannycater]

I used to call him Bad News Barnes, but he's been solid. Hembree too, liked that both can strike a guy out when it absolutely has to happen.