Sox re-sign Mitch Moreland

[a700hitter]

Don’t the Sox have insurance on guys like price? Hopefully the insurance company is picking up the tab on price’s shredded elbow!

No, they don’t have insurance on him.

[jacksonianmarch]

The sox don’t take out insurance on their contracts. The Yankees, for instance, take out insurance on all their long term deals. It’s team specific. Either way, I’m sure Henry isn’t going to cry poor if Price ends up on the OR table

[Kimmi]

I disagree... LH Starters with any talent do not grow on tree's. If he doesn't like it here and by all accounts he does not, your still cashing in 90 after 3 yrs and off to the next buyer...

 

He is as good as gone after 18..

 

I tend to agree. Before the Eck incident, I figured Price would stick it out no matter what. But now, I get the impression that he is really not happy playing in Boston. If he has a healthy and decent year, he will opt out. He should be extremely motivated this year, which is a good thing for us.

[moonslav59]

I seriously doubt Price opts out, unless he has a Cy Young type year, and even then the odds are still probably less than 50% with the elbow issue scaring away GMs.

[Kimmi]

I seriously doubt Price opts out, unless he has a Cy Young type year, and even then the odds are still probably less than 50% with the elbow issue scaring away GMs.

 

The state of the elbow could be the deciding factor. But I really believe that he wants to be out of here as quickly as possible.

[moonslav59]

The state of the elbow could be the deciding factor. But I really believe that he wants to be out of here as quickly as possible.

 

Does that outweigh tens of millions of dollars?

 

To me, that's the "deciding factor".

[jacksonianmarch]

The state of the elbow could be the deciding factor. But I really believe that he wants to be out of here as quickly as possible.

 

He hasn't given an inclination that he wants out. Also, there is no way he is leaving 4 years and $124 mil on the table.

[moonslav59]

He hasn't given an inclination that he wants out. Also, there is no way he is leaving 4 years and $124 mil on the table.

 

Agree.

 

He may not even get a $124M/5 offer, if he opts out.

[mvp 78]

Don’t the Sox have insurance on guys like price? Hopefully the insurance company is picking up the tab on price’s shredded elbow!

 

The Boston Red Sox did not take out an insurance policy on Pablo Sandoval's contract, Tom Werner told WEEI's Ordway, Merloni & Fauria this week.

 

"No, we do not," said the chairman when asked if the team had insurance on Sandoval's shoulder. "I've been listening on the radio, and the fact is that it's a case by case basis. We have insurance on some players, not all players. Collecting on insurance is not the easiest thing. You have the debate about how much insurance, and when do you collect? So we do it on a case by case basis, and we did not do it with Pablo."

 

And

 

If David Price’s elbow goes, it’s possible the Red Sox could recoup some of their investment via an insurance policy — if they indeed took one.

 

They don’t usually like to, as Red Sox president Sam Kennedy explained on the CSNNE Baseball Show podcast.

 

“The cost-benefit usually isn’t there. It’s incredibly expensive,” Kennedy said of insurance policies. “And there’s certain things that have to trigger the payment vis a vis the player when they get hurt. So, it typically doesn’t make sense.

 

“On some occasions it does, but it’s usually too costly and clubs don’t often insure big contracts because it’s hard to recoup based upon how many days the guys are on the DL so on and so forth. There’s a reason why the insurance business is a very profitable industry.”

 

Kennedy likened the insurance policies to gambling.

 

“It’s like walking into a casino, and saying, well, how did they build this place?” Kennedy said. “Well, they didn’t build it with your winnings. It’s something that we don’t have a policy either against it or for it, but we’ve looked at it in just about every case or occasion and most times we walk away and we’ve not done it.”

 

I'm not sure if the Sox have confirmed if they paid for insurance on Price or not.

[mvp 78]

No, they don’t have insurance on him.

 

Where have you seen that they definitely do not? I couldn't find anything conclusive.

[notin]

I seriously doubt Price opts out, unless he has a Cy Young type year, and even then the odds are still probably less than 50% with the elbow issue scaring away GMs.

 

If it gets to the point where his elbow is scaring GMs and failing team physicals, he has already opted out...

[notin]

I seriously doubt Price opts out, unless he has a Cy Young type year, and even then the odds are still probably less than 50% with the elbow issue scaring away GMs.

 

If it gets to the point where his elbow is scaring GMs and failing team physicals, he has already opted out...

[mvp 78]

If it gets to the point where his elbow is scaring GMs and failing team physicals, he has already opted out...

 

Huh? If his elbow is that bad, he's not opting out tho?

[a700hitter]

Where have you seen that they definitely do not? I couldn't find anything conclusive.

I heard it awhile back that the Red Sox do not purchase insurance on any of their contracts. I think I heard it on NESN. They have not insured contracts since J.D. Drew.

[a700hitter]

I heard it awhile back that the Red Sox do not purchase insurance on any of their contracts. I think I heard it on NESN. They have not insured contracts since J.D. Drew.

They got burned on J.D.'s policy because although he missed significant time, the insurance never kicked in, because it only covered his shoulder.

[Kimmi]

Does that outweigh tens of millions of dollars?

 

To me, that's the "deciding factor".

 

If Price is healthy and pitches well, he can probably improve upon his current contract. I didn't think it was possible to outdo an already bad contract, but it has happened enough to make me realize that it is indeed possible.

 

If Price spends any time on the DL, all bets are off.

[Kimmi]

He hasn't given an inclination that he wants out. Also, there is no way he is leaving 4 years and $124 mil on the table.

 

No, he hasn't given any indication, but I really don't think he likes playing in Boston.

[S5Dewey]

IMO Boston isn't Price's favorite place to play but that $31M makes it a lot more palatable for him.

 

I could be wrong about this but I don't see him walking away from that kind of money in the hope that he can get nearly that someplace else. I also don't see any GM paying nearly what the Sox are paying for a player with an elbow that's a ticking time bomb. The last I heard Price was being referred to as a miracle in that his elbow heals itself. Were I a GM I wouldn't be willing to pour $31M into something doctors can't explain.

[Spudboy]

IMO Boston isn't Price's favorite place to play but that $31M makes it a lot more palatable for him.

 

I could be wrong about this but I don't see him walking away from that kind of money in the hope that he can get nearly that someplace else. I also don't see any GM paying nearly what the Sox are paying for a player with an elbow that's a ticking time bomb. The last I heard Price was being referred to as a miracle in that his elbow heals itself. Were I a GM I wouldn't be willing to pour $31M into something doctors can't explain.

 

All true. The only way to change some of those minds is for Price to have a Price year. As in a return to his dominant form.

[dannycater]

Less is More-land.

[moonslav59]

If Price is healthy and pitches well, he can probably improve upon his current contract. I didn't think it was possible to outdo an already bad contract, but it has happened enough to make me realize that it is indeed possible.

 

If Price spends any time on the DL, all bets are off.

 

I don't think a DL stint is all that is needed to scare maybe all GMs away from improving on the contract Price already has.

 

While Price has said the doctors were amazed at his recovery, there will always be an elbow injury hanging in the air with or without a DL stint.

[moonslav59]

All true. The only way to change some of those minds is for Price to have a Price year. As in a return to his dominant form.

 

Even that might not be enough, when it comes to passing the physical connected to any new signing.

[dannycater]

I'm a big fan of Price and his performance as a reliever in the past postseason. He needs to step up and be that type of pitcher in big games. When he signed that giant contract, he became public microscope guy and he has to have a big season in 2018 especially with Sale and Kimbrell on the staff.

[OH FOY]

Kershaw Opts out Price will be an after thought. I see no way Price getting more than what he is getting now. Starting to trend down. For that matter, I don't think Kershaw Opts out. Edited December 22, 2017 by OH FOY!

[Hitch]

It's going to be a smack on the face for us either way. If he pitches to ace quality (or anything near it) he goes and we will need to replace his performance. If he plays porly or gets injured, we are suckered with the rest.

 

At the very least, I hope it's option A. Having Price and Sale dominating would be a beautiful thing.

[Larry Cook]

It's going to be a smack on the face for us either way. If he pitches to ace quality (or anything near it) he goes and we will need to replace his performance. If he plays porly or gets injured, we are suckered with the rest.

 

At the very least, I hope it's option A. Having Price and Sale dominating would be a beautiful thing.

 

And I would love to win the lottery. Chances are way better that price’s elbow goes pop in spring training and sale runs out of gas again in August! (He is a skinny dude with a bony arm!)

 

Moreland is what he is, which is overpaid, but if he stays healthy, he should put up better numbers than last year.

[notin]

He hasn't given an inclination that he wants out. Also, there is no way he is leaving 4 years and $124 mil on the table.

 

Really it all depends on what Price wants.

 

If he only wants money, he probably stays unless his agent thinks he cna get him more.

 

If he wants to play for another team regardless, he is gone.

 

Not everyone makes all the decisions on money. If that was the case, Tanaka would be a free agent right now...

[Kimmi]

Interesting article that I read yesterday on 'Barrels', balls that are hit with a certain exit velocity and launch angle. It turns out that balls hit that are Barrels but not homeruns is a very good indicator of the following season's success, as measured by wOBA.

 

Moreland is one of the top 3-4 guys in this category (along with the arch enemy Judge).

 

Good signing Dave!

[jacksonianmarch]

Really it all depends on what Price wants.

 

If he only wants money, he probably stays unless his agent thinks he cna get him more.

 

If he wants to play for another team regardless, he is gone.

 

Not everyone makes all the decisions on money. If that was the case, Tanaka would be a free agent right now...

 

Tanaka was coming off a career down season and has the specter of the elbow. Don’t let him fool you. He wasn’t guaranteed a bigger payday, so he stuck around and spun it well. Price is guaranteed $9 mil more per year than Tanaka and has a more recent history of elbow trouble. He’s not opting out unless he wins a CY this year. What he can do is opt in then be a cancer until he’s traded. That sounds more like what he’d do

[jacksonianmarch]

Moreland was 26th in barrels per PA. He was surprisingly just above Sanchez who was 30th. Judge was 1, Stanton 3.