Should Jackie Bradley Jr be traded?

[notin]

All I've ever said is that he's at least as good if not a little better. You've proved my point.

 

Except that Pedroia has a much better history, even recently. If you like Hernandez' 2016, who not Pedroia's when he had a 13.8 offensive fWAR?

[mvp 78]

Except that Pedroia has a much better history, even recently. If you like Hernandez' 2016, who not Pedroia's when he had a 13.8 offensive fWAR?

 

Recently, Pedroia is a negative WAR offensive player who is aging and has a lengthy injury history.

[notin]

Recently, Pedroia is a negative WAR offensive player who is aging and has a lengthy injury history.

 

 

And yet he is still the best option for the Sox at 2B, still an overall positive contributor to the team, and not going anywhere despite committing thr cardinal sin of turning 34.

 

Hernandez (who missed more games due to injury than Pedroia recently) should have a place on the MLB roster next year. Just not starting at 2B...

[mvp 78]

And yet he is still the best option for the Sox at 2B, still an overall positive contributor to the team, and not going anywhere despite committing thr cardinal sin of turning 34.

 

Hernandez (who missed more games due to injury than Pedroia recently) should have a place on the MLB roster next year. Just not starting at 2B...

 

I have not said otherwise. I only said Hernandez could fill in adequately for Pedroia in the event of injury.

[moonslav59]

I have not said otherwise. I only said Hernandez could fill in adequately for Pedroia in the event of injury.

 

I took it that way and agree with your point.

[notin]

I have not said otherwise. I only said Hernandez could fill in adequately for Pedroia in the event of injury.

 

And REPLACE his production. As we have seen, that's only possible if Pedroia is at his worst....

[moonslav59]

And REPLACE his production. As we have seen, that's only possible if Pedroia is at his worst....

 

First, I want to say, I do not think Marco can or will replace Pedey's offense, but I wouldn't say the "only way" about it.

 

1) Marco has been over .780 in both of his last 2 seasons at AA and AAA. While that does not mean he can do that at the ML level, it's not impossible to imagine him hitting near .790.

 

2) Pedey "at his worst" for a full season was .712 in 2015. He's 33 now, and one could imagine him declining next year. Plus, he's been under .800 in 5 of his last 6 seasons. That's not far from Marco's 2 season totals on the farm.

 

3) I wouldn't feel awful, if Marco had to play 2B a lot next year, but there is a significant chance he falls way short of Pedey's recent production. Pedey's at .764 now, and so projecting Marco to come close to that, I feel, is not a big stretch. They could both easily be near .750 next season.

 

[Bellhorn04]

Don't forget that Marco missed almost the entire season this year. He's probably got his work cut out just to get back to major league game shape.

[moonslav59]

Don't forget that Marco missed almost the entire season this year. He's probably got his work cut out just to get back to major league game shape.

 

True, and Pedey's injury may not improve much for next year.

[harmony]

True, and Pedey's injury may not improve much for next year.

Many on this forum don't care but I wonder whether Dustin Pedroia will age better the Seattle second baseman Robinson Cano, who is 10 months older than Pedroia.

 

In 1,502 MLB games Pedroia has posted 48.4 fWAR, including 1.9 fWAR this year and 5.3 fWAR last year.

 

In 1,995 MLB games Cano has posted 52.3 fWAR, including 3.3 fWAR this year and 5.9 fWAR last year.

 

Of course after this season Pedroia has only four years and $56 million remaining on his contract while Cano has six years and $144 million left on his contract.

[Bellhorn04]

Many on this forum don't care but I wonder whether Dustin Pedroia will age better the Seattle second baseman Robinson Cano, who is 10 months older than Pedroia.

 

In 1,502 MLB games Pedroia has posted 48.4 fWAR, including 1.9 fWAR this year and 5.3 fWAR last year.

 

In 1,995 MLB games Cano has posted 52.3 fWAR, including 3.3 fWAR this year and 5.9 fWAR last year.

 

Of course after this season Pedroia has only four years and $56 million remaining on his contract while Cano has six years and $144 million left on his contract.

 

Cano should age well. He seems like a strong physical specimen. And he has conserved his energy over the years not running out routine grounders.

[Kimmi]

Largely carried by the negative baserunning component. All hid peripherals related to batting are above average.

 

An injured player who can't run on a team that has been willy-nilly on the basepaths all season shouldn't be expected to do all that well...

 

Thank you.

[jacksonianmarch]

tall and lean usually age well. Short guys don't.

[harmony]

Cano should age well. He seems like a strong physical specimen. And he has conserved his energy over the years not running out routine grounders.

Good point.

[mvp 78]

And REPLACE his production. As we have seen, that's only possible if Pedroia is at his worst....

 

Which he is right now and only getting older.

[Jasonbay44]

Time to rehash this conversation? Seems like everyone seems like it should be lol

[StephenCurry30]

I still stand by it. he is too streaky and annoying.

[moonslav59]

Time to rehash this conversation? Seems like everyone seems like it should be lol

 

Not me. Give it a month or two more, at least.

[Jasonbay44]

Not me. Give it a month or two more, at least.

 

I don't want him traded (read my previous posts). But this game thread with the hatred for him is absurd right now. He's always a slow starter, I'm not worried.

[cp176]

I don't want him traded (read my previous posts). But this game thread with the hatred for him is absurd right now. He's always a slow starter, I'm not worried.

 

I hear you here but you know how the game thread protocol or lack there of seems to work. I can deal with in a game thread not so much on the regular threads.

[moonslav59]

Where's the trade JMart thread?

[mvp 78]

No reason to trade him when he’s struggling. You wouldn’t get enough for him right now.

[oldtimer]

I was so happy for him that he got the hit that eventually resulted in the win. we know what he can do in the field. Maybe that hit will get him going on a hot streak. I thought he was our most tradeable field player earlier this year but his value has to be lower now, so we should keep him and hope he can come alive at the plate.

[jacksonianmarch]

As is the case with lots of good players, if you deal them when theyre slumping, you will get 50 cents on the dollar. When they are streaking, you don't want to deal them

[notin]

Trade him for what? Just to run him out of town? At least name a position you'd want to fill if you cant think of a player.

 

The Sox turned down offers for Encarnacion and Puig for him over the winter.

[jacksonianmarch]

I do anticipate this is the last year for Bradley in Boston. He is about to get very expensive through the arb process and they have built in redundancy with JD Martinez capable of playing LF and Beni capable of playing CF. I think they will deal him for a mid rotation pitcher to replace Pomeranz

[Nick]

I do anticipate this is the last year for Bradley in Boston. He is about to get very expensive through the arb process and they have built in redundancy with JD Martinez capable of playing LF and Beni capable of playing CF. I think they will deal him for a mid rotation pitcher to replace Pomeranz

 

Now you're making sense.

 

Too often we throw out a trade without thinking through logically.

 

The upcoming theme for Sox is that WE CAN'T KEEP THE BAND TOGETHER.

 

We need to explore every avenue.

 

Yeah, I want to keep JBJ even as a fourth outfielder but at what price?

 

Let's think for minute what you suggested.

 

Pom is already at $8.5M. That's a significant savings. I guess he'll command north of $15M if he repeats last year's effort. Maybe it'll reach $20M.

 

JBJ is already at $6.1M with two more arbitration years. He can probably get to $10M this winter.

 

The best scenario maybe to trade JBJ for younger player.

 

Suppose someone like Swihart becomes the fourth outfielder with JD starting in left.

 

Johnson takes over the fifth rotation spot.

 

So instead of spending $30M for JBJ and Pom, we may be able to get by with Swihart and Johnson, expanding their current role, along with making JD more of an OF than a DH.

 

THIS MAY NOT BE THE DEAL. BUT WE HAVE TO BE REALISTIC. WE NEED TO SHED SOME PLAYER(S)/SALARY.

 

I'd like to keep Kimbrel, Sale and Betts.

Edited April 6, 2018 by Nick

[jacksonianmarch]

I could see a Bradley for a player like Trevor Williams from the Pirates. 4-ish ERA, ate some innings, etc. You wont get the production Pomeranz gave, but maybe you could get some length out of him. I am not advocating for Williams, I am just saying a deal for a guy like him

[moonslav59]

No reason to trade him when he’s struggling. You wouldn’t get enough for him right now.

 

I seriously doubt any GM adds or subtracts value from any player based on a 7 game sample size.

[Slasher9]

He can get 1 single every 10 AB's and he is my starting CFer.

His D is that important to me