4/19 vs Rays

[Northern Star]

Ross up. Let's concede.

[Northern Star]

Shoulder impingment.

[wyo-sox]

Boy I'd just keep Hemmbre in for as long as he can...

[User Name]

Kelly supposedly has a shoulder impringment. That is a recurring problem for him.

[jacksonianmarch]

Hembree and the flowing mane

[Northern Star]

That's what, three cross-ups tonight?

[Jasonbay44]

Hembree deserves mad props for this performance tonight, great job by him

[User Name]

Good outing by Hembree. Then again, Tampa sucks floppy donkey dick.

[FredLynn]

Good outing by Hembree. Then again, Tampa sucks floppy donkey dick.

 

Ross sucks too

[User Name]

Hoopefully Tampa makes him look good tonight.

[a700hitter]

Judge away...but I am going to wait to see about six starts. In his last 8 starts last year, from Aug 1 on, his ERA was 3.14. He has pitched twice this year, both vs Toronto, probably the best offense in the league, and had one bad outing and one good one.

He has never been anyone's #2. Last year, he pitched like a #6. He can fill a very useful role as a #4 who eats innings, spells the bullpen and puts up a few wins along the way. If everything breaks right for him and he pitches like a #3, I will genuflect, bless myself and give thanks. He is not a #2. He just doesn't have that kind of stuff, never has and that will not change in his 7th full major league season.

[mvp 78]

How's the game guys?

[User Name]

Decent inning from RR. Hopefully he can pitch at least three.

[Navafan29]

Shaw will slam a hit, Young will hit one well but right at someone, and then Hannigan will hit into a double play.

 

Please prove me wrong and score!

[a700hitter]

Young stinks.

[a700hitter]

I watched a lot of Young in 2014 for the Mets and in 360 + ABs, he was pathetic. He didn't do well against LHP and he was completely inept against RHP. Give him until the end of the month and then go in a different direction.

[FredLynn]

He has never been anyone's #2. Last year, he pitched like a #6. He can fill a very useful role as a #4 who eats innings, spells the bullpen and puts up a few wins along the way. If everything breaks right for him and he pitches like a #3, I will genuflect, bless myself and give thanks. He is not a #2. He just doesn't have that kind of stuff, never has and that will not change in his 7th full major league season.

 

In 2014 he had an ERA of 3.43 with an ERA+ of 113 in 204IP. Thats #2 stuff. He can do that again. Will he? Who knows.

[Station 13]

out bitch

[Jasonbay44]

Nice play by Hanley

[Thunder]

I'm sure I'm in the minority but I LOVE Jim Joyce

 

So do I! Makes the games fun.

[Northern Star]

Fred....Fred....that name sounds familiar for some reason....

[Station 13]

I watched a lot of Young in 2014 for the Mets and in 360 + ABs, he was pathetic. He didn't do well against LHP and he was completely inept against RHP. Give him until the end of the month and then go in a different direction.

 

I hate the signing, the team already have a platoon OF in Castillo.

[Northern Star]

I hate the signing, the team already have a platoon OF in Castillo.

 

Pretty expensive one at that.

[a700hitter]

In 2014 he had an ERA of 3.43 with an ERA+ of 113 in 204IP. Thats #2 stuff. He can do that again. Will he? Who knows.

Stats are not stuff. He doesn't have the stuff i.e. the arsenal of a #2. He's a #4, Mrs. Porcello.

 

Edit: Plus that was only 1 year out of 6 full seasons, andhe was the #4 starter on that staff.

Edited April 20, 2016 by a700hitter

[User Name]

Stats are not stuff. He doesn't have the stuff i.e. the arsenal of a #2. He's a #4, Mrs. Porcello.

 

What is "#2 arsenal?" Because Lackey's been pitching like a #2 for the last four seasons with diminished stuff. Porcello's problem isn't stuff, like his 2014 can attest to, it's whatever they changed with his approach. He's a sinker guy looking for K's.

[Northern Star]

Who was the Talksox poster who talked about going over to the Cubs in the offseason? Are they still posting here?

[User Name]

Who was the Talksox poster who talked about going over to the Cubs in the offseason? Are they still posting here?

 

SCM33, he barely posts anymore.

[a700hitter]

What is "#2 arsenal?" Because Lackey's been pitching like a #2 for the last four seasons with diminished stuff. Porcello's problem isn't stuff, like his 2014 can attest to, it's whatever they changed with his approach. He's a sinker guy looking for K's.

Jamie Moyer was not my idea of a #2 either, but that is just me. Porcello is just never going to be a #2 imo. His bread and butter i.e. his sinker deserted him before he could establish any consistent top of rotation results with his sinker. He had one good season. It looks like an outlier.

 

Other than his sinker, the rest of his arsenal is meh ,and he can't get #2 results with it.

Edited April 20, 2016 by a700hitter

[FredLynn]

Stats are not stuff. He doesn't have the stuff i.e. the arsenal of a #2. He's a #4, Mrs. Porcello.

 

Edit: Plus that was only 1 year out of 6 full seasons, andhe was the #4 starter on that staff.

 

So let me understand: those statistics are meaningless in comparison to your opinion. Is that correct? Statistics are meaningless in evaluating performance. If thats not true, what stats would be consistent with a #2 SP? You said he "was never" a #2 SP. His performance in 2014 disagrees with you.....statistically. Do you have to throw the ball at 95+ to be a #2? What about Greg Maddux?

[FredLynn]

BTW: they better get Ross out of there right now