2016 Season General Red Sox Chat

[Bellhorn04]

It's age. Don't try to pass it off as something else.

 

You never get grouchy?

[User Name]

You never get grouchy?

 

Whenever I have to drive in this shithole, but then I can't post, because that would be illegal.

[Palodios]

We're in the fun part of the season. The team is winning. The obvious flaws in the team's makeup aren't nearly as obvious yet. The crippling injuries to key players haven't happened yet. The top prospects in AAA haven't flopped yet. The Yankees haven't traded bum prospects for quality players.

 

Gotta love April.

[yankthis]

...The obvious flaws in the team's makeup aren't nearly as obvious yet....

 

Yes they are, "but it's only the first month of the season! they'll settle in!".

[User Name]

^Where the material for SK's joke came from, ladies and gentlemen.

[a700hitter]

It's age. Don't try to pass it off as something else.

I've been getting grouchy my whole life. Don't be an ageist. If you are lucky, some day you will get old too, but I know blather when I see it.

[User Name]

I've been getting grouchy my whole life. Don't be an ageist. If you are lucky, some day you will get old too, but I know blather when I see it.

 

I am an ageist, because I can be now. If I'm lucky and I get old, I won't be able to be an ageist anymore. Carpe Diem!

[a700hitter]

I am an ageist, because I can be now. If I'm lucky and I get old, I won't be able to be an ageist anymore. Carpe Diem!

Then when you get old, I have good longevity in my family, I will call you out for hypocrisy. LOL!! I am not one of those people who thinks that age brings wisdom. My Dad always told me that age didn't bring wisdom, because idiots can't age into wisdom.

[User Name]

Then when you get old, I have good longevity in my family, I will call you out for hypocrisy. LOL!! I am not one of those people who thinks that age brings wisdom. My Dad always told me that age didn't bring wisdom, because idiots can't age into wisdom.

 

My dad says idiots will be idiots, and as you age, you get duller, not sharper. "Make of that what you will" he says.

[cp176]

My dad says idiots will be idiots, and as you age, you get duller, not sharper. "Make of that what you will" he says.

 

My Dad told me when I was 18 that pretty soon I would look in the mirror and some old guy would be looking back at me.

[Bellhorn04]

Something that's starting to concern me a bit is Mookie's lack of walks. He has 1 so far, and he didn't have a single one this spring. Not sure what's up with that.

[cp176]

if anybody out there really believes that what the Sox have done this year represents a win now at all cost philosophy would you please explain to me what you mean. Nothing they have done looks like that to me. Is it just me? Is this what you mean:

1. We should have started Sandoval

2. We should not have sent Castillo down

3. We should not have sent Swihart back to AAA

4. We should not have signed Price

5. We should not have traded for Kimbrel (Who were those guys we traded again)

6. We should not have traded for Smith

7. We should not be starting Shaw at third base

 

there has to be something I am missing here. i am very excited about this year as well as future years in part because of those moves. I'll admit that I can be a little slow so if you can please explain how the future years of our beloved franchise are threatened by these moves that appear logical to me I would be grateful.

[a700hitter]

Something that's starting to concern me a bit is Mookie's lack of walks. He has 1 so far, and he didn't have a single one this spring. Not sure what's up with that.

Betts is still very young. He will develop more patience. His bat is so quick that he can wait longer than most players.

[mvp 78]

Happy 9th anniversary of the pizza toss, everyone!

[Kimmi]

Sometimes I am grouchy. It happens, especially when I post so much and read everything that gets posted here. Sk is a good poster on the baseball stuff. The blather post was not his best stuff. Some people can do humor. Sk's strong suit is baseball and statistics. Comedy and satire are not his strong suit, IMO.

 

SK does humor just fine. I thought his post was funny.

 

What's not funny is all the Fat Pablo jokes.

[SoxHop]

Happy 9th anniversary of the pizza toss, everyone!

 

Have some pizza!!!!

[a700hitter]

SK does humor just fine. I thought his post was funny.

 

What's not funny is all the Fat Pablo jokes.

Not all of them are funny, but some are very funny.

[sk7326]

Although I have been a fan for over 50 years, I guess I must be one of the unusual ones these days. I want them to compete every year. What Dombrowski has done so far is by no means a win at all costs philosophy. His moves have seemed logical, prudent and about time to many of us. Like I have said before, he doesn't look as good in his suit as Cherington did. Hope he isn't offended because at this point it surely looks like he knows more about the way the game is played.

 

Oh it's just being flip. Who doesn't want a consistent winner? Now what Dombrowski has done this offseason has been notable - but fairly obvious. Now it is nice he has been empowered to do the obvious thing and sign the top free agent pitcher. He went and traded for a mid-career stud closer - the price is arguable but if you're gonna do it, at least get somebody good. (somebody who is the 2nd best reliever in the pen through 11 games somewhat amusingly)

 

What is clear is that since Epstein left is that there was a distinct lack of strength at the top of the baseball operation - and with Dombrowski, Henry has put some juice at the top. That is a good thing - as opposed to the mushy way it has been handled the last three seasons. The mushy way has wasted development time with some of their better prospects. At least Henry has identified somebody he wants to drive, and that alone will help quite a bit. They had a collaborative thing which produced the best decade in Sox history, and with two of the principals gone, the collaboration dropped off quite a bit into a vague formless blob. Henry's credit is to step in and fix the formless blob by empowering a proven guy he knows.

[SoxnCycles]

Oh it's just being flip. Who doesn't want a consistent winner? Now what Dombrowski has done this offseason has been notable - but fairly obvious. Now it is nice he has been empowered to do the obvious thing and sign the top free agent pitcher. He went and traded for a mid-career stud closer - the price is arguable but if you're gonna do it, at least get somebody good. (somebody who is the 2nd best reliever in the pen through 11 games somewhat amusingly)

 

What is clear is that since Epstein left is that there was a distinct lack of strength at the top of the baseball operation - and with Dombrowski, Henry has put some juice at the top. That is a good thing - as opposed to the mushy way it has been handled the last three seasons. The mushy way has wasted development time with some of their better prospects. At least Henry has identified somebody he wants to drive, and that alone will help quite a bit. They had a collaborative thing which produced the best decade in Sox history, and with two of the principals gone, the collaboration dropped off quite a bit into a vague formless blob. Henry's credit is to step in and fix the formless blob by empowering a proven guy he knows.

 

Sorry, only certain members are allowed to be flip.

 

Try working on being more juvenile (and easier to understand) and you'll probably get a pass.

[User Name]

Oh it's just being flip. Who doesn't want a consistent winner? Now what Dombrowski has done this offseason has been notable - but fairly obvious. Now it is nice he has been empowered to do the obvious thing and sign the top free agent pitcher. He went and traded for a mid-career stud closer - the price is arguable but if you're gonna do it, at least get somebody good. (somebody who is the 2nd best reliever in the pen through 11 games somewhat amusingly)

 

What is clear is that since Epstein left is that there was a distinct lack of strength at the top of the baseball operation - and with Dombrowski, Henry has put some juice at the top. That is a good thing - as opposed to the mushy way it has been handled the last three seasons. The mushy way has wasted development time with some of their better prospects. At least Henry has identified somebody he wants to drive, and that alone will help quite a bit. They had a collaborative thing which produced the best decade in Sox history, and with two of the principals gone, the collaboration dropped off quite a bit into a vague formless blob. Henry's credit is to step in and fix the formless blob by empowering a proven guy he knows.

 

Koji is a more effective reliever than pretty much anyone else. The problem is that when the dog days of summer get here, they will have to really put the brakes on his usage. That's another plus of the Kimbrel acquisition. Koji's the best, but his body can't handle a full workload anymore.

[SoxnCycles]

Koji is a more effective reliever than pretty much anyone else. The problem is that when the dog days of summer get here, they will have to really put the brakes on his usage. That's another plus of the Kimbrel acquisition. Koji's the best, but his body can't handle a full workload anymore.

 

True.

I'll be suprised if he's in the set up role for a full year. Smith will take over at some point.

[sk7326]

Koji is a more effective reliever than pretty much anyone else. The problem is that when the dog days of summer get here, they will have to really put the brakes on his usage. That's another plus of the Kimbrel acquisition. Koji's the best, but his body can't handle a full workload anymore.

 

Indeed, they need to watch his miles - heck they even need to watch his warmups (basically if you ask him to get up and get loose, you gotta use him). It is one of the quirks of the bullpen Farrell has to negotiate. Koji is amazing but he is not the moveable chess piece like you'd prefer for a primary "set up" guy (like say Tazawa or Smith).

 

The Kimbrel acquisition can help there some - although on the flipside you could argue that Koji as the 9th inning guy allows the team to monitor his workload easier (fewer unpredictable situations, can rotate Carson Smith in occasionally to spell him). But I marvel at Koji's maddux-ish economy.

[Kimmi]

The trade for Carson Smith was a very good trade. Props to Dave on that one.

 

Hope he comes back soon.

[a700hitter]

Sorry, only certain members are allowed to be flip.

 

Try working on being more juvenile (and easier to understand) and you'll probably get a pass.

Asshat

[Northern Star]

DD should call up Cashman. Uehara and Sandoval for Betances. Get it done, Dave.

[SoxnCycles]

Indeed, they need to watch his miles - heck they even need to watch his warmups (basically if you ask him to get up and get loose, you gotta use him). It is one of the quirks of the bullpen Farrell has to negotiate. Koji is amazing but he is not the moveable chess piece like you'd prefer for a primary "set up" guy (like say Tazawa or Smith).

 

The Kimbrel acquisition can help there some - although on the flipside you could argue that Koji as the 9th inning guy allows the team to monitor his workload easier (fewer unpredictable situations, can rotate Carson Smith in occasionally to spell him). But I marvel at Koji's maddux-ish economy.

 

If Farrell was smart with the bullpen, and judging from this past week, he doesn't have a clue, They could have two set of 8th-9th inning guys in Smith, Kimbrel, Taz and Koji.

 

There's no excuse for not having two of those four guys available on any given night.

[mvp 78]

If Farrell was smart with the bullpen, and judging from this past week, he doesn't have a clue, They could have two set of 8th-9th inning guys in Smith, Kimbrel, Taz and Koji.

 

There's no excuse for not having two of those four guys available on any given night.

 

I believe Merloni said something similar. You should never run into a situation where 2 of Taz, Koji and Kimbrel are unavailable.

 

Farrell is in over his head.

[SoxnCycles]

I believe Merloni said something similar. You should never run into a situation where 2 of Taz, Koji and Kimbrel are unavailable.

 

Farrell is in over his head.

 

Yup, that's who I stole, I mean got it from.

Even with Smith still out, burning through the bullpen by wed was really stipid.

I'll be amazed if he's still managing this team by July.

[sk7326]

I think the way the bullpen should be racked and stacked is obvious right now:

 

- Use Barnes and Hembree as the first guys out if the starters have not gotten past the 6th. I'd just let them pitch - to me, just rotating them and letting them get one go through the order would be ideal. Then go to the situational guys. When Joe Kelly comes back, add him to the group. Although I'd also hold Kelly as a true long man in the cases where it's needed.

 

- Stop worrying about leading/trailing (I know managers do this all the time) vis a vis close-ish games.

[User Name]

Hembree has wipeout stuff. I'm surprised he'd never stuck around in the Majors before. Command issues, perhaps?