Aroldis Chapman suspended 30 games, is a dirtbag

[Spudboy]

Oh my. All that fancy education manifests itself.

[jacksonianmarch]

LOL, so because he was acquitted means he didn't do it? And she egged him on? Isn't that what Ray Rice's wife said? That is weak ass s*** right there.

 

In Chapman's case, the only "evidence" is the 8 slugs in the wall of the garage, which didn't break the law. He never even get charged let alone go to trial, as there isn't enough evidence to prosecute. IMO, he's guilty as hell. As was Lugo, Cordero and the like. This s*** doesn't come out of nowhere. That being said, the law says he can play, he is going to toe the rubber after 30 games and when he's in the game, do you think I'm rooting against him?

[User Name]

LOL, so because he was acquitted means he didn't do it? And she egged him on? Isn't that what Ray Rice's wife said? That is weak ass s*** right there.

 

In Chapman's case, the only "evidence" is the 8 slugs in the wall of the garage, which didn't break the law. He never even get charged let alone go to trial, as there isn't enough evidence to prosecute. IMO, he's guilty as hell. As was Lugo, Cordero and the like. This s*** doesn't come out of nowhere. That being said, the law says he can play, he is going to toe the rubber after 30 games and when he's in the game, do you think I'm rooting against him?

 

Absolutely not, you have terrible reading comprehension. The only thing I'm saying is that they're not only different situations, but one organization used a domestic violence issue to acquire a player with a checkered history for a discounted price when said player shot a handgun near his spouse and in an inhabited area. You are trying to compare that to a guy who spent four years after his alleged problem, and whose issue had no smoking gun (pun intended). We can't be sure he hit his wife, and you're right this stuff does not come out of nowhere, but considering the history of both organizations with wife-beaters with their current FO's, (Knoblauch is just one example) glass houses and all that.

[a700hitter]

It must not be illegal because Chapman admitted to doing this, yet he wasn't charged with any crime.

 

Discharging the firearm does seem to be a big reason why he received a 30 day suspension.

Not necessarily as to the first part.

[Bellhorn04]

Not necessarily as to the first part.

 

What exactly are you trying to say about this? Do you have any actual knowledge that pertains to the legality or illegality of Chapman shooting a registered firearm in his garage?

[User Name]

What exactly are you trying to say about this? Do you have any actual knowledge that pertains to the legality or illegality of Chapman shooting a registered firearm in his garage?

 

It falls into the umbrella of unlawful discharge in Florida,it's a first degree misdemeanor but that's not necessarily punished with jail time.

 

Let me note that in Chapman's case, similar to Julio Lugo's case, it's possible (and plausible) that his spouse did not specifically tell prosecutors he hit her, but rather threatened (still a serious offense) during an altercation. I just don't get the need to discharge a firearm in an occupied area. That's f***ing terrifying.

[sk7326]

Wow, 30 days for domestic violence. Imagine if he had used drugs, then he'd really be in trouble. Luckily, it was just something silly.

 

Seriously though, what kind of message does it send to your female fans when your organization suspends someone for 50 games for using PEDs and a whole season for using them twice, but only 30 days for assaulting their wife/girlfriend? Ray Rice beat a woman into unconsciousness, on video, and he got off with less of a punishment than most guys get for smoking pot or getting a DUI.

 

What kind of message does it say when a team trades for one with that hanging over him. Not exactly gunning for the "females who didn't date Derek Jeter" vote there. Between that and their ticketing hijinks, Yankees really doing their fans a solid.

[Kimmi]

Not necessarily as to the first part.

 

Not necessarily, but I think it depends on where Chapman lives.

 

Regardless, the police did not find enough evidence to charge him with anything, not even gun charges. Do I think he's guilty of some form of domestic abuse? Absolutely. I'm just saying that it's kind of difficult for Manfred to pin a domestic violence rap on Chapman when the police couldn't find enough evidence to do so.

[Youk Of The Nation]

I think if it wasn't Aroldis Chapman, and instead was me or Ted or someone not on an MLB roster, they would have found enough evidence.

[jacksonianmarch]

BTW, I don't doubt for one minute that Lugo hit his wife. I also don't doubt for one minute that Chapman hit his girlfriend. That being said, Cashman jumped on an opportunity to upgrade his team without having to give up anything of real value. I cannot fault him there. And if Chapman's addition to this squad puts us in WS contention, then it's worth it. He isn't meant to support the moral high ground. He is supposed to build the best team he can under the Yankees' specific circumstances. That pen will be something out of science fiction if healthy and incredibly deep if injury strikes. Doesn't mean I am jumping out of my seat to buy a Chapman jersey, but I certainly hope he pitches incredibly well for us. Once he leaves in the offseason, I hope he dies in a fire

[mvp 78]

You're being gross, dude.

[User Name]

You're being gross, dude.

 

When isn't he gross? He went to school with the specific purpose of being gross and seeing gross stuff.

[Spudboy]

Which reminds me of a story!!!

 

As some of you know, my Dad was PhD Cell Biologist.

 

He spent much of his professional life teaching medical students so he could support his research in Insulin synthesis and regulation.

 

Back in the early '60s, he was teaching at the U. Louisville Medical School. During a lab ( no pun intended ) a student called him over to his bench where he was opening up a dog cadaver. He said "Dr. Rieser, my dog he s*** on me."

 

Now that was gross. And funny.

 

Carry on.

[a700hitter]

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I think if it wasn't Aroldis Chapman, and instead was me or Ted or someone not on an MLB roster, they would have found enough evidence.

Yep, unless you live on a very large parcel of land in a very rural area, intentionally discharging a firearm within (usually 200 yards) of another residence is a criminal offense. Guns are legal in Florida and carry licenses are easy to obtain, but you can't discharge your weapons in your home in a residential neighborhood. This is pretty standard as it is extremely dangerous.

 

I know a guy who about 20 years ago took his kid into his yard and set up a target in his garage and had his kid take target practice with a high powered rifle. Bullets were ending up all over the neighborhood in people's homes etc. He got arrested and it made the local broadcast news. I remember it well, because the kid was in my son's Scout troop. Yankee $ made this go away. You or me get charged and convicted. We might not get jail time, but we would get charged and convicted unless we had connections.

[jacksonianmarch]

I see the grossest of the gross gentlemen, I'm an ER doc, lol. I don't have patience for men who beat on women or children. I hate them all. While they toe the rubber and wear a Yankee uniform, I will begrudgingly root for them to do well from a team perspective. Once they take off the uni, I hope they fall into a wood chipper feet first. That's the beginning and the end of things. Yes, it is hypocritical and yes, I put my fandom ahead of some things. Unfortunately, this guy is allowed to walk free, but the fact that he is allows the Yankees to take advantage

[User Name]

*If he actually hit his wife. You can't have "no doubt" he hit her, since you were there. I've seen a lot of women make up stories, exxagerate stories, and even harm themselves to get back at their spouse for s***** behavior. I'm not victim blaming here, but you need to have all the facts before you condemn someone.

[jacksonianmarch]

UN?, I see a lot of women who recant their stories to law enforcement, who I have seen for injuries sustained in a domestic assault. Yes, there are plenty of batshit crazy people out there. But usually, if there is smoke there is fire.

[User Name]

On that, we can agree.

[Kimmi]

I think if it wasn't Aroldis Chapman, and instead was me or Ted or someone not on an MLB roster, they would have found enough evidence.

 

This is quite likely, and I think Manfred believes this also. Hence, the 30 day suspension, despite the fact that no police charges were filed. I'm sure this is also the reason why Chapman decided not to appeal.

 

Manfred's hands are tied though. Thirty days was probably about the largest suspension he could give in this situation without Chapman appealing and without having creating a rift with the players union.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Whatever happened to the good old days, when players had no representation and the owners could treat and pay them like indentured servants? First they abolish child labor, then come the unions, then everyone demands equal pay for women...man, it never ends.

[Meh]

I love it when people come on internet message boards and try to act like they are so clean. DV happens all day, im sure at one point 80% of this message board has committed some type of DV. DV are actually hard to prosecute since the victim usually ends up not wanting charges. I'm not saying hitting ANYONE, be it a woman or a child or even a man, is something okay to do when you are not provoked. When it comes down to it, we all commit certain levels of deviance. It's in American society, it's in Canadian society, it's in society in general. I've personally seen a lot of men who IMO could not of committed the act, but still have been arrested. It's a law, if somoene complains about DV you have to arrest, but thats not always the case, but more than likely it will be done since the officer could lose his job over it. With any crime it should be investigated and you can't jump to conclusions, esp with DV since the level of burden is lower in this case.

[User Name]

Do you have some sort of chemical imbalance bro? Do you even see what you're saying up there? GTFO.

[Jasonbay44]

80% of the board has probably been involved in some kind of domestic violence with their girlfriend/wife? You see, for some reason I highly doubt that and feel like my fellow members on this board are better then that, at least I hope....

[User Name]

Made up statistics are the best statistics!

[Youk Of The Nation]

All of the violence that occurred domestically was consensual with me, I don't know about the rest of you.

[jacksonianmarch]

Hitting your spouse is such weak s***. There's a reason domestic abusers and child abusers get beaten and raped in jail

[Youk Of The Nation]

Hitting your spouse is such weak s***. There's a reason domestic abusers and child abusers get beaten and raped in jail

 

I've never heard that about domestic abusers. Child molesters, yeah, but not wife-beaters/killers. Half the guys in prison who aren't there for drug-related crimes are there for murder, and the spouse/girlfriend/ex-girlfriend is one of the most frequent murder victims around. I would think it would be a little too common to focus on.

[User Name]

Men who abuse women/children/the elderly in any way usually get some tough love when they arrive in the slammer, from what I've seen. Jacko's right on this one. And it's usually the cops who'll let the guys running the show inside know there are some "special guests" incoming.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Gotta keep the inmates busy with something. It's either arts and crafts or kicking child molesters in the kidneys until there's blood in their urine, and those little glue sticks dry out way too fast.

[SoxnCycles]

Gotta keep the inmates busy with something. It's either arts and crafts or kicking child molesters in the kidneys until there's blood in their urine, and those little glue sticks dry out way too fast.

 

LOL

It's a crying shame you're not writing comedy for a network.

Or, a stand up comedian who's own material sucks.