2014 MLB Playoff

[d-money]

Pablo Sandoval would look nice in a red sox jersey

[Bellhorn04]

Giants Win!

 

Now Sox fan's can't gloat about being the "only team with 3 championships this century"

 

Tied for first this century still sounds good though.

[seabeachfred]

Tied for first this century still sounds good though.

 

Speak for yourself Bellhorn. It may look good to you but it doesn't look good to me, not at all. In fact, I'm pretty pissed off about the whole thing. A tie is like kissing your sister, and as you might have forgotten, the Red Sox came back from a deficit to TIE about 18 times at my last count this season only to lose the game. s*** on ties----and I want to see us in a World Series before the Giants get in again. Hear that Prune Face Henry?

[a700hitter]

Not one of the pitches that Perez swung at were in the zone.

[Station 13]

Panda would be nice here next year. He's very good at putting the ball in play, and just annoying to pitch to in general.

[Youk Of The Nation]

Giants Win!

 

Now Sox fan's can't gloat about being the "only team with 3 championships this century"

 

Hey, if your attempts at trolling have been reduced to reminding us that both the Red Sox and the Giants have won more World Series in the last 14 years than the Yankees and expecting that to knife right into our hearts, I'll take that any day.

 

I don't give the most microscopic s*** about how many World Series San Francisco has won. The only two things I truly care about in the end are the World Series the Red Sox win and the ones that the Yankees don't, because the sweet, delicious tears of Yankees fans are the only things better than 69ing on top of a pile of hundred-dollar bills with a woman who tastes like bacon.

 

Yeah, I wanted KC to win, as a baseball fan. But I'm not a KC fan so I'm not losing any sleep over it. The Giants winning again is just...boring to me. I care about them winning only insofar as it relates to the Red Sox NOT winning, which is disappointing to me. I understand intellectually that the Sox can't win every year, so the Giants "tying" the Sox's record since 2000 doesn't bother me at all.

[Bellhorn04]

Speak for yourself Bellhorn. It may look good to you but it doesn't look good to me, not at all. In fact, I'm pretty pissed off about the whole thing. A tie is like kissing your sister, and as you might have forgotten, the Red Sox came back from a deficit to TIE about 18 times at my last count this season only to lose the game. s*** on ties----and I want to see us in a World Series before the Giants get in again. Hear that Prune Face Henry?

 

You have a unique perspective, Fred.

[Dojji]

Speak for yourself Bellhorn. It may look good to you but it doesn't look good to me, not at all. In fact, I'm pretty pissed off about the whole thing. A tie is like kissing your sister, and as you might have forgotten, the Red Sox came back from a deficit to TIE about 18 times at my last count this season only to lose the game. s*** on ties----and I want to see us in a World Series before the Giants get in again. Hear that Prune Face Henry?

 

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[seabeachfred]

You have a unique perspective, Fred.

 

You've known I was a different animal for years Bell. I read YOTN's broadside to Divinity and it felt good to read but then again Divinity always plays the horse's ass when it comes to his hatred and jealousy for the Red Sox so that doesn't effect me. But it is true---I don't like sharing top billing with the Giants or any other team. Keep in mind that I'm a 14 year convert to the Sox and as such I'm a very very true believer. Screw the efen SF Giants!!!!!!

[seabeachfred]

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I'll take the pink one in the middle of the bottom row Dojii---it matches my eyes this morning. Never knew you were a haberdasher.

[Spudboy]

Kalish was once a part of our outfield future. Prospects are always a crap shoot. Cost control of a crapshoot doesn't excite me. Getting Stanton would excite me.

 

It's too bad that Kalish had a series of significant injuries. He was very exciting to watch play with his speed, athleticism, and aggressive play.

 

But you are entirely correct. Prospects are just prospects until they actually demonstrate the ability to play well at the highest level. Anything can happen to derail a prospect.

 

Look at Westmoreland, Kelly, Tavares, and even Kalish.

 

Or, Jackie Bradley!

 

As you said, a crap shoot.

[Dojji]

Kalish was once a part of our outfield future. Prospects are always a crap shoot. Cost control of a crapshoot doesn't excite me. Getting Stanton would excite me.

 

Because we didn't learn our lesson from Adrian Gonzalez?

 

This is a very similar situation here.

[Spudboy]

Because we didn't learn our lesson from Adrian Gonzalez?

 

This is a very similar situation here.

 

Similar in that Boston fans are worked up in a lather about getting a young, immensely talented and productive impact player. There is no one currently in the Sox minor league pipeline that projects to be anywhere near as impactful to the Sox lineup.

 

I see no reason not to pursue Satnton. Gozalez proved to be a creep in the Sox locker room. I don't see why the fact that he did not work out that the Sox should be adverse to taking a big plunge on Stanton.

[seabeachfred]

Similar in that Boston fans are worked up in a lather about getting a young, immensely talented and productive impact player. There is no one currently in the Sox minor league pipeline that projects to be anywhere near as impactful to the Sox lineup.

 

I see no reason not to pursue Satnton. Gozalez proved to be a creep in the Sox locker room. I don't see why the fact that he did not work out that the Sox should be adverse to taking a big plunge on Stanton.

 

I don't either. And you're right about Gonzales. He was a piss poor fit for Boston. He's one of those laid back California types who like as little pressure thrown their way as possible. At least the Yankees got one WS Title when they signed Teixiera since he led the league in homers and RBI's in 2009. Gonzales and his equally s*** ass compatriot Crawford gave us nothing but hits at the wrong time, choke-ups when it counted, bitches and gripes in the clubhouse and meely mouthed complaints about how hard it was to play for the fans in Boston. Well crap of that......both those bums are playing out here in la la land and what have they done to help their new team get to the WS? Two straight years of choke-up baseball when it counted most and a team they finished six games ahead of in the NL West goes on to win the WS this year. Screw Gonzales and Crawford and screw the Dodgers.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I don't either. And you're right about Gonzales. He was a piss poor fit for Boston. He's one of those laid back California types who like as little pressure thrown their way as possible. At least the Yankees got one WS Title when they signed Teixiera since he led the league in homers and RBI's in 2009. Gonzales and his equally s*** ass compatriot Crawford gave us nothing but hits at the wrong time, choke-ups when it counted, bitches and gripes in the clubhouse and meely mouthed complaints about how hard it was to play for the fans in Boston. Well crap of that......both those bums are playing out here in la la land and what have they done to help their new team get to the WS? Two straight years of choke-up baseball when it counted most and a team they finished six games ahead of in the NL West goes on to win the WS this year. Screw Gonzales and Crawford and screw the Dodgers.

 

Adrian Gonzalez hit .337/.441/.483 in 2011 with RISP. He hit .318/.455/.523 in September, 2011. But don't let stats get in the way of your hate. He was a very, very good hitter for the Red Sox.

[a700hitter]

Adrian Gonzalez hit .337/.441/.483 in 2011 with RISP. He hit .318/.455/.523 in September, 2011. But don't let stats get in the way of your hate. He was a very, very good hitter for the Red Sox.

 

He's a great compiler of stats and he really thrives on lousy teams. As far as putting a team on his back like Big Papi when it matters most, AGon is not that guy.

[Dojji]

Similar in that Boston fans are worked up in a lather about getting a young, immensely talented and productive impact player. There is no one currently in the Sox minor league pipeline that projects to be anywhere near as impactful to the Sox lineup.

 

There is always going to be at least one young impact player that qualifies as the green grass on the other side of the fence.

[SoxFanForsyth]

He's a great compiler of stats and he really thrives on lousy teams. As far as putting a team on his back like Big Papi when it matters most, AGon is not that guy.

 

So in Sept 2011, when the Sox were reeling, and he hit .318/.455/.523, what did you want him to do differently? The Sox lost in spite of him not because of him.

[a700hitter]

So in Sept 2011, when the Sox were reeling, and he hit .318/.455/.523, what did you want him to do differently? The Sox lost in spite of him not because of him.

We are better off without him. The guy is a loser. To paraphrase him, it was all part of God's plan that we sent him back to the west coast.

[Bellhorn04]

We are better off without him. The guy is a loser. To paraphrase him, it was all part of God's plan that we sent him back to the west coast.

 

I don't know, I think he's getting a bit of a bad rap here. He was a rock solid producer for the Dodgers this year. Kershaw was the guy who really let them down in the playoff series.

[a700hitter]

I don't know, I think he's getting a bit of a bad rap here. He was a rock solid producer for the Dodgers this year. Kershaw was the guy who really let them down in the playoff series.

He doesn't suck. He is a very good compiler of stats. But I am glad that AGon is gone.

[SoxFanForsyth]

He doesn't suck. He is a very good compiler of stats. But I am glad that AGon is gone.

 

What's the difference between being good and being a good "compiler of stats"? Don't you have to be good to compile good stats? We already went over how he was excellent in September, 2011, when the Red Sox were flailing as a team. He tried to put the team on his back. The pitchers wouldn't allow it.

[a700hitter]

What's the difference between being good and being a good "compiler of stats"? Don't you have to be good to compile good stats? We already went over how he was excellent in September, 2011, when the Red Sox were flailing as a team. He tried to put the team on his back. The pitchers wouldn't allow it.

He's a good compiler of stats. He's not a good clubhouse guy from what I could see and he lacked leadership qualities from what I heard and read. He's a guy that I was not sorry to see leave, especially after the drop off in his Home Run prodction in the second half of 2011.

[Bellhorn04]

He's a good compiler of stats. He's not a good clubhouse guy from what I could see and he lacked leadership qualities from what I heard and read. He's a guy that I was not sorry to see leave, especially after the drop off in his Home Run prodction in the second half of 2011.

 

Stanton could be the same type of player for all we know - a great compiler of stats who doesn't thrive in the spotlight of Boston. To acquire him we'd have to package off some of our best prospects, and to keep him long term we'd have to give him close to 300 million. Not that I wouldn't love to have him, but the risk would be out of this world, especially when you factor in the possibility that he might be an 'A-Gon' type personality.

[Spudboy]

I have no fear of Stanton not being able to play in the Boston market. What have we seen or even heard of that would lead us to believe that he would not work out here? It's all speculation. I'm not thrilled with the idea of spending $300. million to secure him. I dislike all big contracts because of the risk of injury.

 

As I see it, Stanton is like any other player. He either produces or he doesn't. The only way that he would fail to be a hit here is if he did not produce as he has in Miami. Then the media and fans would go nuts and say that he could just not withstand the spotlight.

[seabeachfred]

Gonzales spent most of his 2011 season with us complaining about the Thursday night games before a flight out of town for a Friday night game---as if he couldn't get some rest in between. Hell, even a pain in the ass like Manny thrived despite those "inconveniences". He also couldn't put the Dodgers on his back and carry them through the Playoffs because he doesn't have leadership qualities and he sure didn't show that in 2011 despite his good hitting stats. And in 2012 before he was sent packing he was back biting Valentine and then the Boston fans. He didn't like Valentine's style and the Boston fans were too demanding. He was a horse dung fit for Boston---and without him we actually did better the next year with team players like Napoli, Victorino, Gomes, Ross, Koji and Dempster. I don't miss Gonzales at all.

[a700hitter]

Stanton could be the same type of player for all we know - a great compiler of stats who doesn't thrive in the spotlight of Boston. To acquire him we'd have to package off some of our best prospects, and to keep him long term we'd have to give him close to 300 million. Not that I wouldn't love to have him, but the risk would be out of this world, especially when you factor in the possibility that he might be an 'A-Gon' type personality.

He might be, but the organization probably would haqve kept AGon if he had been popping 35 HRs out of the park each year. If the guy carries a wrecking ball bat, you can tolerate his personality.

[Bellhorn04]

As I see it, Stanton is like any other player. He either produces or he doesn't. The only way that he would fail to be a hit here is if he did not produce as he has in Miami. Then the media and fans would go nuts and say that he could just not withstand the spotlight.

 

But some of the worst flak toward A-Gon has been about his attitude. He has taken a pounding for the 'God's will' stuff. People used that to give him heat about 2011 even though he had a great month that September.

 

I'm just throwing s*** out there for argument's sake.

[Northern Star]

I don't want to trade for Stanton, we'd open more holes than we close.

[Dojji]

I would like to get my hands on a couple good hitters, but we don't need to bust the bank for the best players in the league to accomplish that.

 

For that matter, we could probably appreciate having Anthony Rizzo on the team, the man seems to have come into his own this year and actually outperformed the guy he was traded for -- and of course, now we have neither of them.