Is it time to trade Bucholz, I think yes

[joeycaps]

This guy is quickly becoming another Josh Beckett, Beckett would pitch lousy, than hit the DL. I see this pattern with Bucholz. I knew Ben made a mistake this off season not getting another starter. My prediction is Bucholz will implode then hit the DL as the Yankees march to the post season, the sox will be home watching. Edited April 24, 2014 by joeycaps

[Station 13]

For Cliff Lee. Sign me up. Pack him with someone else.

[Bellhorn04]

Here's my honest answer: I have no f***ing clue. He's an enigma. If he turns it around he's a top-notch pitcher at a reasonable cost for several more years. Will he? No clue.

[rjortiz]

I'm sure teams are lining up to trade for starters bound for the DL. This isn't MVP Baseball.

[reYoukilis]

I thought he shouldve gotten another starter too. Didnt think it was going to be because of Buch, though it crossed my mind wondering if his success was a fluke. Give him another month I say.

[Station 13]

Here's my honest answer: I have no f***ing clue. He's an enigma. If he turns it around he's a top-notch pitcher at a reasonable cost for several more years. Will he? No clue.

 

That ship sailed long ago. he's 30, never pitch 200 inning.

 

Lee and Lester would be nice leading the team, a bridge to Henry Owens.

[rjortiz]

We should offer Carp and Buchholz for Felix Hernandez. Trade Nava for Stanton. Maybe if we throw in Allen Webster they will give us Jose Fernandez.

[Station 13]

We should offer Carp and Buchholz for Felix Hernandez. Trade Nava for Stanton. Maybe if we throw in Allen Webster they will give us Jose Fernandez.

 

Trade at gun point. I like your style.

[mvp 78]

I'm sure teams are lining up to trade for starters bound for the DL. This isn't MVP Baseball.

 

It's really a shame. 2004 had a great soundtrack and Kuiper/Krukow are fun to listen to.

[rjortiz]

Trade at gun point. I like your style.

 

I'd use it on you. That way the annoying voice proposing Ryan Lavarnway for Buster Posey would stop making noise.

[Station 13]

I'd use it on you. That way the annoying voice proposing Ryan Lavarnway for Buster Posey would stop making noise.

 

Nah, I don't make trades with you.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

It's really a shame. 2004 had a great soundtrack and Kuiper/Krukow are fun to listen to.

But NO OWNER MODE!!

[rjortiz]

Nah, I don't make trades with you.

 

You don't make trades with anyone.

[Wasatch]

I would not mind seeing him traded right now.

[jacksonianmarch]

Your time to trade him was last yr. Your return right now would be almost nothing, since you'd have to eat half his salary

[a700hitter]

Bells gave a good honest answer. Who knows? I don't. The FO should, but the sarcastic class will certainly use this thread as material even though they take no position at all on the issue. 20- 20 hindsight provides for the best sarcasm. Edited April 25, 2014 by a700hitter

[Bellhorn04]

There have been times when people wanted to trade Lester too. Then he carries us to a World Series, so in hindsight, trading him would have been sort of a bad idea, no?

[a700hitter]

There have been times when people wanted to trade Lester too. Then he carries us to a World Series, so in hindsight, trading him would have been sort of a bad idea, no?

That's right. A lot of people were to trade him Wil Myers. The FO made the right call on Lester. The issue with Lester was never his durability as it is with Buchholz. Personally, if Buch can give us 180 innings this year with good results, I would be tempted to sell high on him due to the durability issue. It will not be an easy call for the FO.

[jacksonianmarch]

The Yankee media has been saying the same about Pineda. If he gives is 180 strong innings this yr, he's probably dealt. When it comes to pitching, especially pitchers with injury histories, it's all about buying low and selling high

[SoxSport]

You have to wonder if they did something wrong with this guy in his development. Did they baby him too much with pitch count limits and trips to Florida to pitch just a couple of innings? The guy seems to have a weak arm, and that's a signal maybe durability hasn't been built into it properly. Or maybe it's mental? They have guys paid to know much closer to the situation, so this is all pure speculation.

[Bellhorn04]

The Yankee media has been saying the same about Pineda. If he gives is 180 strong innings this yr, he's probably dealt. When it comes to pitching, especially pitchers with injury histories, it's all about buying low and selling high

 

That's great in theory. But in reality I think it's a lot like the stock market. The honest investment advisers tell you nobody can really time the market - nobody knows exactly where the high point and low point are. I don't think it's much different with a lot of ballplayers - predicting their future performance is a very inexact science.

[Bellhorn04]

We never got a very clear explanation about the exact details of Buchholz's injury last year and we have no clue if he's still hurt or what the hell is causing his velocity to still be down.

 

He'll probably get shelled one more time and then we'll hear he needs major surgery...

[MJantomaso]

This guy is quickly becoming another Josh Beckett, Beckett would pitch lousy, than hit the DL. I see this pattern with Bucholz. I knew Ben made a mistake this off season not getting another starter. My prediction is Bucholz will implode then hit the DL as the Yankees march to the post season, the sox will be home watching.

 

I am pretty surprised that this thread has gone 2 pages without anyone making fun of this idiots intelligence. I had to break the streak.

[dupree]

Only a guess but I'd say Clay had a light off season and didn't start training until late and now he is going through a dead arm phase. I'd say in the next two starts he finds his mark and starts looking like the Clay of old. I would like to see him stay healthy for a full season tho. I'd rather have all the struggles, bad starts, and injuries happen now rather then later in the year. So hopefully we have all that behind us and we start winning.

[a700hitter]

We never got a very clear explanation about the exact details of Buchholz's injury last year and we have no clue if he's still hurt or what the hell is causing his velocity to still be down.

 

He'll probably get shelled one more time and then we'll hear he needs major surgery...

We still don't know what caused the fractured vertebrae a few years back.

[SoxSport]

Trade him for Bautista. This guy would wreck the Monster.

[SoxSport]

Trouble with Buchholz, they couldn't get crap for him right now. Everybody else has eyes, too.

[rjortiz]

Trade him for Bautista. This guy would wreck the Monster.

 

Trouble with Buchholz, they couldn't get crap for him right now. Everybody else has eyes, too.

 

Negates his own argument in two minutes. Incredible.

[Palodios]

You have to wonder if they did something wrong with this guy in his development. Did they baby him too much with pitch count limits and trips to Florida to pitch just a couple of innings? The guy seems to have a weak arm, and that's a signal maybe durability hasn't been built into it properly. Or maybe it's mental? They have guys paid to know much closer to the situation, so this is all pure speculation.

 

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[SoxSport]

Negates his own argument in two minutes. Incredible.

 

Are you still drinking?