Trade Deadline Predictions for the Sox

[SoxSport]

Lee would certainly cost them Bradley--and more. I'd prefer they trade Ellsbury for Lee, not Bradley. Bradley can be as good or better than Ellsbury. Two guys they should not trade are Bradley and Bogaerts. They should be untouchable. I'd rather they give up less and add more relief pitching.

[italstallianion]

According to MLBTR Peavy trade is imminent. As in he's cleared his stuff from the clubhouse. Please not to Boston, or at least please not involving any top 10 prospects.

[sk7326]

Lee would certainly cost them Bradley--and more. I'd prefer they trade Ellsbury for Lee, not Bradley. Bradley can be as good or better than Ellsbury. Two guys they should not trade are Bradley and Bogaerts. They should be untouchable. I'd rather they give up less and add more relief pitching.

 

Nobody is untouchable. If Boegarts could get Felix Hernandez, I'd be very very tempted. But that is the sort of thing you have to be looking at. Lee is an elite pitcher - Bradley would be an interesting proposition, closer call to me than you I suspect. Fortunately Red Sox have enough interesting depth to be able to make a deal without touching the upper crust.

[SoxFanForsyth]

According to MLBTR Peavy trade is imminent. As in he's cleared his stuff from the clubhouse. Please not to Boston, or at least please not involving any top 10 prospects.

 

Hearing its the A's or the Braves.

 

I am pretty surprised that the Sox have now lost out on both Peavy and Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez.

 

But that's probably only because they're going to land Lee.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Lee would certainly cost them Bradley--and more. I'd prefer they trade Ellsbury for Lee, not Bradley. Bradley can be as good or better than Ellsbury. Two guys they should not trade are Bradley and Bogaerts. They should be untouchable. I'd rather they give up less and add more relief pitching.

 

No, it may cost Cecchini, who is actually a better prospect at this point than Bradley according to some scouts, but the Sox will deal from areas of depth, not shallow positions like CF.

[italstallianion]

I mean Lee was pulled from a start with "neck stiffness" right?

 

It all comes down to the amount of money paid. I'd give the Phillies the choice of eating money for better prospects or dumping money for ok prospects. I'd be really pissed if we trade a top 10 prospect for a starter not named Lee.

 

Hell I'd rather trade a top 10 prospect for a good reliever than for Peavy.

[italstallianion]

I wonder if the A's leading the Peavy sweepstakes has anything to do with Bartolo Colon being mentioned in the Biogenesis thing and suspensions looming nearby.

[Behindenemylines]

I wonder if the A's leading the Peavy sweepstakes has anything to do with Bartolo Colon being mentioned in the Biogenesis thing and suspensions looming nearby.

 

You got this one right. The A's are being proactive knowing that they will lose their best starter in the next week. There is a reason that Colon at 40 something is pitching better then he did five years ago. With that said the Sox still need pitching. I think the only untouchables from the prospects are Bogaerts, Bradley and Owens. Even though he is still a few years away he is dominating at the level he is at and is probably the only potential ace they have in the minors. If Lee is a target they do have pieces to get it done. An what they have to give up depends on how much money they will eat.

[Dojji]

Hearing its the A's or the Braves.

 

I am pretty surprised that the Sox have now lost out on both Peavy and Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez.

 

But that's probably only because they're going to land Lee.

 

Honestly, unless you think you can get Buchholz back and Lester on form, I don't buy starting pitching at all.

[italstallianion]

I feel like getting Buchholz back and Lester returning to his old self (if that's the case) would be like landing 2 ace's via trade or free agency, without the extra cash and prospects of course. Still, at this point I only think a reliever is necessary, but Cliff Lee would be a luxury that would make this team really difficult to beat down the stretch. (For a few years too) And I'd like to see Bogaerts get some at bats while we're at it.

[User Name]

Holy crap! How are you?

 

Not so bad, my friend. Couldn't do much longer without some friends to discuss the Red Sox with, so why not return now.

 

According to MLBTR Peavy trade is imminent. As in he's cleared his stuff from the clubhouse. Please not to Boston, or at least please not involving any top 10 prospects.

 

Quite frankly I can probably could the players I'd give up any of our Top 10 prospects for at this point. It's not that I think they're just that good, it's more than I don't see us luring in any players that push us over the top in a trade, and it's just not worth it.

[italstallianion]

Does your sig mean you're going for your phd since you got your masters at WMU?

[User Name]

Wrong User Name

[User Name]

Does your sig mean you're going for your phd since you got your masters at WMU?

 

Pardon? I think you may be confusing me with another user, I'm only 21. I'm going to be a senior this year. Taking my sweet time before I hit the job market.

[italstallianion]

Pardon? I think you may be confusing me with another user, I'm only 21. I'm going to be a senior this year. Taking my sweet time before I hit the job market.

 

 

Haha yes I am. I didn't realize there was a "User Name" and a "User Name?"

 

God damn it.

[User Name]

I was sure to hop on the brilliant idea as early as I could.

[italstallianion]

You should add an avatar to further distinguish yourself so idiots like me don't get into arguments with you thinking you're "User Name?"

[User Name]

Done. I used to have one of Manny Ramirez pointing at Big Papi but I guess it's gone.

[seabeachfred]

I wonder if the A's leading the Peavy sweepstakes has anything to do with Bartolo Colon being mentioned in the Biogenesis thing and suspensions looming nearby.

 

Stallion, my guess is that the hammer is going to come down hard on Colon. He has been under suspicion for quite some time and already has been suspended once for drugs. Now that the A's have a commanding six game lead over Texas in the AL West they need to have a solid starter and they seem best positioned to go for Peavy. Unlike you, however, I would love to have Jake in our rotation. Not to be I'm afraid.

[seabeachfred]

Honestly, unless you think you can get Buchholz back and Lester on form, I don't buy starting pitching at all.

 

Dojii that's the $64 dollar question and the key to all this. Getting Jon back in form and Clay back in action wouldn't necessitate us trading a bunch of prospects for a quality starter. The question is whether Lester IS back or when is Clay going to be ready to start pitching for us again. Those two questions I can't answer.

[jung]

Not really sure how this particular bunch of suspensions is going to work out since the players are not being suspended based on PED test results but rather on the strength of evidence provided by Dr. Bosch. Apparently they had Braun dead to rights but decided not to really ream his ass in order to get the first of these evidence based suspensions on the books. Braun is a dick that surely deserved worse. Apparently they have reams of evidence on A-roid. Sounds like he is truly a goner.

 

Teams are in the tough spot of having to figure out if the player is going to fold his tent and take the deal offered or fight. Without real test results it really boils down to the strength of the evidence Bosch provides. Who knows what that is for Colon. Interesting that after Braun they are not exactly falling out of the air like flies.

 

League only tests for a fraction of the boutique PED formulas available. That looks like it will always be a problem.

[sk7326]

Not really sure how this particular bunch of suspensions is going to work out since the players are not being suspended based on PED test results but rather on the strength of evidence provided by Dr. Bosch. Apparently they had Braun dead to rights but decided not to really ream his ass in order to get the first of these evidence based suspensions on the books. Braun is a dick that surely deserved worse. Apparently they have reams of evidence on A-roid. Sounds like he is truly a goner.

 

Teams are in the tough spot of having to figure out if the player is going to fold his tent and take the deal offered or fight. Without real test results it really boils down to the strength of the evidence Bosch provides. Who knows what that is for Colon. Interesting that after Braun they are not exactly falling out of the air like flies.

 

League only tests for a fraction of the boutique PED formulas available. That looks like it will always be a problem.

 

Just like in football - you can't catch everything. Now with the push for retroactive punishment of folks (with evidence that may or may not be great - and a lot of leaked testimony which is a significant violation of the entire agreement), it is clear baseball and the media have a serious fetish about this issue and trying to whitewash the past.

 

I had no problem with Braun's suspension getting overturned. The agreement the union and players had gave the players due process - union were vigilant about protecting the player's rights here (who else was going to). But clearly he has a problem with this stuff, not letting an escape from the law sate him.

[User Name]

Does anyone know what's going on with Brian Wilson? I know he was out for awhile after needing surgery but I haven't heard anything about a team giving him a shot which I just found odd. As I said I would love for us to at least give him a try but I certainly thought I would've heard of some team trying him.

[italstallianion]

I heard there were 5 teams really pursuing him, 4 of them in the NL. I really hope we're the other team.

[Palodios]

I heard there were 5 teams really pursuing him, 4 of them in the NL. I really hope we're the other team.

 

The Tigers would be foolish not to pursue him as well. They seem to be in on all the other major relievers available.

[dupree]

I heard there were 5 teams really pursuing him, 4 of them in the NL. I really hope we're the other team.

 

Me too. Seen reports where it says hes close to being major league ready. Could u imagine The Beard running out for the 9th if Uehara gets burnt out at some point. He would add more to the good clubhouse type Ben's added in his reign.

[Orange Juiced]

Me too. Seen reports where it says hes close to being major league ready. Could u imagine The Beard running out for the 9th if Uehara gets burnt out at some point. He would add more to the good clubhouse type Ben's added in his reign.

 

Yeah, there seems to be no good reason at all why the Sox wouldn't have at least a semi-serious interest in Wilson. Would cost no prospects, proven, championship-caliber closer, loves the Red Sox, they need bullpen help in a big way. Makes too much sense for them to simply pass.

[jacksonianmarch]

Being ready to pitch and being ready to pitch every day are two different things. If I were the sox, I'd sign him through 2014 and have him rotate in as closer for next yr.

[Palodios]

When talking about Gonzalez, John Henry mentioned that the team's viewpoint is that they really would prefer not to touch prospects, and money is a lot easier to spend than dropping top talent. Hopefully that goes the same for Wilson.

[dupree]

When talking about Gonzalez, John Henry mentioned that the team's viewpoint is that they really would prefer not to touch prospects, and money is a lot easier to spend than dropping top talent. Hopefully that goes the same for Wilson.

Agreed. I hate that we missed out on Gonzalez. But that might let the Phillies let go of Lee but i doubt it. Brian Wilson makes a lot of sense if not this year but next. I think his personality and his playoff and big game experience is what is most coveted for us and what we've trying to find since Pap was lost during free agency but it could have been a blessing in the long run.

 

I seen a report where it said 4 NL and 1 AL team were in on Wilson. I just wonder if we were the AL team. I havent seen what teams were believed in on him now.