2013 Spring Training

[redsoxbeatz]

So Red Sox choose 9 games over 1 season? Hmm... I hope we win the WS this year.

[User Name]

You do know he can be sent down for 20 games mid-season and the Sox still keep the year of control?

[SoxSport]

yeah--Bowden-ESPN tweets a source saying Bradley staying. Sweeney was cut.

[seabeachfred]

If Iggy could ever gets the count to be 1-0 it would be a miracle. His home plate 0-0 is about three feet wide and extends from ankles to neck.

 

So many people on this board are getting so gung ho about Iglesias that they should take a moment or two to pause and consider what we have here. This is ST!!!!!!! Do you think Iggy is going to fare well when he starts facing top notch pitching with his penchant for hacking away and showing no plate discipline whatsoever??? He has no power, is not a good base stealer, no plate discipline, and in a lineup that needs all the hitting it can get, we may have (most likely will) a big black hole. If that happens, as if happens often to young players, it could result in his taking his hitting woes out to the field with him.

 

Personally, as much as I dislike the fragility of the Drews, I think we need to get Steven back in the lineup as soon as possible. If Lester and Buchholz are for real this season it would be a crime to see good pitched games go by the boards because of a weak lineup. There is too much pressure on Pedroia, Middlebrooks, Napoli and Bradley (if he stays) to hit for us. Salty is a strikeout machine if he doesnt hit one out, we don't know how long it will be before Ellbreaky goes back on the shelf with one of his hangnail injuries, and Victorino and Gomes are only semi-sure things against lefthanded pitchers. Against starboard hurlers they are less than useless.

 

I just thought a little realism here might be a good thing. Now if Ells, Salty, Gomes and Vic play to their best we might be able to get by with Jose at short. I just don't think he is a Major League hitter.

[mvp 78]

You do know he can be sent down for 20 games mid-season and the Sox still keep the year of control?

 

No, they don't understand this.

[mvp 78]

Realism means getting a concussion from getting hit in the head = fragile?

 

Yeah, that's not reality. Not even close.

[SoxFanForsyth]

I'm glad that some people actually realize that starting Bradley with Boston does not automatically mean cutting 1 year back.

 

They're going to send him back down the day that Ortiz gets back. It's that simple. You think someone's going to take Gomes for $5mm a year for 2 years? Or Victorino for 3/39? We're not trading Ellsbury, not in a couple weeks at least.

 

Unless the Sox are off to a crazy hot start, where they're 14-6 or 15-5 in their first 20, when Ortiz returns, and Bradley is hitting .330/.410/.510, then they're sending Bradley right back down to AAA.

 

I've also heard that he doesn't have to be there for consecutive days, just 20 days overall during this year. So it's not like, if we send him down, we're screwed for using him as a replacement for Gomes/Vic/Ells.

[Orange Juiced]

I'm glad that some people actually realize that starting Bradley with Boston does not automatically mean cutting 1 year back.

 

They're going to send him back down the day that Ortiz gets back. It's that simple. You think someone's going to take Gomes for $5mm a year for 2 years? Or Victorino for 3/39? We're not trading Ellsbury, not in a couple weeks at least.

 

Unless the Sox are off to a crazy hot start, where they're 14-6 or 15-5 in their first 20, when Ortiz returns, and Bradley is hitting .330/.410/.510, then they're sending Bradley right back down to AAA.

 

I've also heard that he doesn't have to be there for consecutive days, just 20 days overall during this year. So it's not like, if we send him down, we're screwed for using him as a replacement for Gomes/Vic/Ells.

 

Bingo.

 

Personally, I'm very bullish on a lot of Red Sox' prospects, and I cannot wait until they are up with the big club. Middlebrooks last year, Bradley this year, and I hope the flow goes from a trickle to a stream throughout this and next seasons. (meaning, of course, that I hope they're ready and not just being pulled up because the Sox are dealing with a ridiculous number of injuries)

[mvp 78]

I'm glad that some people actually realize that starting Bradley with Boston does not automatically mean cutting 1 year back.

 

I've been saying this for weeks, but was told "you just want an ice cream cone now rather than a box later." And other nonsense like, you have to wait until June to bring him up. Meh, at least people have come around.

[a700hitter]

Realism means getting a concussion from getting hit in the head = fragile?

 

Yeah, that's not reality. Not even close.

Glass jaw = fragile

 

I hate Jeter, but he would have shook off that glancing blow like a bug bite.

[a700hitter]

So many people on this board are getting so gung ho about Iglesias that they should take a moment or two to pause and consider what we have here. This is ST!!!!!!! Do you think Iggy is going to fare well when he starts facing top notch pitching with his penchant for hacking away and showing no plate discipline whatsoever??? He has no power, is not a good base stealer, no plate discipline, and in a lineup that needs all the hitting it can get, we may have (most likely will) a big black hole. If that happens, as if happens often to young players, it could result in his taking his hitting woes out to the field with him.

 

Personally, as much as I dislike the fragility of the Drews, I think we need to get Steven back in the lineup as soon as possible. If Lester and Buchholz are for real this season it would be a crime to see good pitched games go by the boards because of a weak lineup. There is too much pressure on Pedroia, Middlebrooks, Napoli and Bradley (if he stays) to hit for us. Salty is a strikeout machine if he doesnt hit one out, we don't know how long it will be before Ellbreaky goes back on the shelf with one of his hangnail injuries, and Victorino and Gomes are only semi-sure things against lefthanded pitchers. Against starboard hurlers they are less than useless.

 

I just thought a little realism here might be a good thing. Now if Ells, Salty, Gomes and Vic play to their best we might be able to get by with Jose at short. I just don't think he is a Major League hitter.

Fred, I agree that Iglesias could crash and burn at the plate, but I would prefer that he get his shot with this team so we know once and for all if he has a future as an MLB starting SS or whether he is just a utility type player. I don't think the prospects for this team are very good, so now is the time to give him his shot. By next year, he will have Bogaerts pushing him, so Iggy's window of opportunity. The season is about to start and I sense that you are getting optimistic about the team's chances so you want to play the guys that give us the best chance of winning. Maybe I am wrong about that. I'd like to see some of the kids get a shot this year. This has a lot of TalkSox people confused because they have convinced themselves that I am anti-prospect. LOL!! I told them that I wasn't anti-prospect, but the circumstances have to be right to hand them jobs without safety nets. This season is one of those times.

[jacksonianmarch]

You do know he can be sent down for 20 games mid-season and the Sox still keep the year of control?

 

And they'd be stupid not to. It makes too much sense to not send Bradley down when Ortiz returns

[Bellhorn04]

And they'd be stupid not to. It makes too much sense to not send Bradley down when Ortiz returns

 

But if by some miracle the Sox are leading the division and Bradley is playing great, they can't do it yet. In that scenario the fans are excited and happy, ticket sales are rebounding and for all reasons it's stupid to send him down.

[redsoxbeatz]

I'm glad that some people actually realize that starting Bradley with Boston does not automatically mean cutting 1 year back.

 

They're going to send him back down the day that Ortiz gets back. It's that simple. You think someone's going to take Gomes for $5mm a year for 2 years? Or Victorino for 3/39? We're not trading Ellsbury, not in a couple weeks at least.

 

Unless the Sox are off to a crazy hot start, where they're 14-6 or 15-5 in their first 20, when Ortiz returns, and Bradley is hitting .330/.410/.510, then they're sending Bradley right back down to AAA.

 

I've also heard that he doesn't have to be there for consecutive days, just 20 days overall during this year. So it's not like, if we send him down, we're screwed for using him as a replacement for Gomes/Vic/Ells.

 

Good stuff. And I was worried RS we're about to lose a year on JB

[Bellhorn04]

Good stuff. And I was worried RS we're about to lose a year on JB

 

It could still happen.

[Bellhorn04]

Obviously there's still a very good chance Bradley will get sent down later. But by having him on the opening day roster they are opening the possibility that they won't send him down at all. If the primary concern was preserving a year, they would have done it right now.

[User Name]

The way this team has crashed and burned the past couple of years, preserving the year should not be the primary concern. All signs point to the opportunity arising later in the season though.

[Thunder]

I personally think that the team will go all out in the beginning of the season, which could be a good thing. The team isn't fully healthy, so around the All Star Break, Papi might be getting hot just after he comes back to full health. Everything will depend on the new guys like Victorino, Hanrahan, Dempster and Drew (when he comes back after the concussion). I don't think Bailey will thrive in the set up role though.

[SoxSport]

Funny business going on this morning with Bradley, Mortenson and Sweeney. Looks like they are trying to work something out keeping all 3. Or rather keeping ties to Sweeney and Mortenson with one in minors.

Either is expendable--especially Sweeney, who is a professional backup outfielder if there ever was one.

Late last night, the word was they had cut Sweeney and were keeping Bradley. Now not so clear.

 

Can't understand why they keep Bradley dangling. That decision is being made above Cherington--for sure. You might expect Ben to be counting beans 7 years out, but winning now and selling tickets would appear to be overriding factors. Plus Farrell clearly wants the kid. He would like to go into NY guns blazing. If they can't beat the Yankees in their present shape, they never will.

 

If they send Bradley down at the last minute for a player like Sweeney, they will get killed for it PR-wise.

[SoxSport]

So many people on this board are getting so gung ho about Iglesias that they should take a moment or two to pause and consider what we have here. This is ST!!!!!!! Do you think Iggy is going to fare well when he starts facing top notch pitching with his penchant for hacking away and showing no plate discipline whatsoever??? He has no power, is not a good base stealer, no plate discipline, and in a lineup that needs all the hitting it can get, we may have (most likely will) a big black hole. If that happens, as if happens often to young players, it could result in his taking his hitting woes out to the field with him.

 

Personally, as much as I dislike the fragility of the Drews, I think we need to get Steven back in the lineup as soon as possible. If Lester and Buchholz are for real this season it would be a crime to see good pitched games go by the boards because of a weak lineup. There is too much pressure on Pedroia, Middlebrooks, Napoli and Bradley (if he stays) to hit for us. Salty is a strikeout machine if he doesnt hit one out, we don't know how long it will be before Ellbreaky goes back on the shelf with one of his hangnail injuries, and Victorino and Gomes are only semi-sure things against lefthanded pitchers. Against starboard hurlers they are less than useless.

 

I just thought a little realism here might be a good thing. Now if Ells, Salty, Gomes and Vic play to their best we might be able to get by with Jose at short. I just don't think he is a Major League hitter.

 

Iggy has shown great skills at SS so far. Very fluid. He deserves a chance to show what he can do in a saner atmosphere than last year, and it looks like he will get it. Bradley deserves the same, after showing impressive all around skills rare in a Red Sox player recently.

 

It's tough to think positive with this team, what with the piss poor organization they still have (save for Farrell and the coaches--impressive so far).

 

They are fumbling the ball right now on Bradley, showing a characteristic lack of boldness.

They seem to have lost any sense of urgency or priority with winning.

[Station 13]

And they'd be stupid not to. It makes too much sense to not send Bradley down when Ortiz returns

 

it must be 20 CONSECUTIVE days in the minors. If he is brought up before the 20 days, those days spent down there will be credited as major league time.

[BSN07]

The most productive thing Sweeney could do for the Sox is get cut and sign with the Yankees.

[SoxSport]

The Bradley holdup seems to be more getting him on the 40 man roster than Sweeney accepting a AAA assignment. They have to DFA somebody off the roster, or put Morales on the 60 day DL. Mortenson not a factor. He has made the team.

[SoxSport]

it must be 20 CONSECUTIVE days in the minors. If he is brought up before the 20 days, those days spent down there will be credited as major league time.

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That's what they'll do if he sticks. 20 up, 20 down. You figure Ortiz will have decided he can play by 20 games.

[jacksonianmarch]

it must be 20 CONSECUTIVE days in the minors. If he is brought up before the 20 days, those days spent down there will be credited as major league time.

 

Well, if he gets sent down, he has to stay down for at least 7 barring an injury. If Ortiz comes back and shows he can play everyday then they will send him down for exactly 20 days and reevaluate from there

[jung]

Are the Twins broadcasting this game today? Just wondering if anybody on the board has got access to their radio. Wondering who the Sox are playing today and what is going on.

[SoxSport]

The latest in the Bradley soap opera is they will bring him up for game 3 in Yankee stadium--after CC and Pettite have pitched the first 2 games. They have no confidence already in the kid to hit lefthanders, despite hitting Lee and others. Not much hope for this organization the way they are mishandling this kid.

No balls.

 

This thing is beginning to look like the manager search, all over again.

[mvp 78]

The latest in the Bradley soap opera is they will bring him up for game 3 in Yankee stadium--after CC and Pettite have pitched the first 2 games. They have no confidence already in the kid to hit lefthanders, despite hitting Lee and others. Not much hope for this organization the way they are mishandling this kid.

No balls.

 

This thing is beginning to look like the manager search, all over again.

 

I see, you just post the same response in every topic now?

[User Name]

I see, you just post the same response in every topic now?

 

His posts are bad, and he should feel bad.

[mvp 78]

His posts are bad, and he should feel bad.

 

I looked everywhere to find sources for his claim that they'll bring him up for game 3. Couldn't find any.