June 3, 2012: Red Sox @ Blue Jays

[SoxFanForsyth]

Gonzo needs to learn how to clean out fastballs inside. He gets jammed entirely too often. It's really annoying.

[jung]

Gonzo gets jammed inside cause he is always looking outside to go the other way....no matter the count or anything else for that matter

[evilhand]

Exactly. He is obviously valuable in the pen, not as a starter.

 

You are finally getting it.

 

Or he's hurt.

[Brennan]

Gonzo gets jammed inside cause he is always looking outside to go the other way....no matter the count or anything else for that matter

 

 

He went from being the so called smartest hitter in baseball to one of the dumbest.

[mvp 78]

Exactly. He is obviously valuable in the pen, not as a starter.

 

You are finally getting it.

 

And you still aren't.

 

The only thing they did was thought "this guy doesn't have the balls to be a closer. He wants to start. He has dominant stuff. If it translates to a SP role, he could be a 2nd-3rd starter. (which has more value than a setup guy)"

 

They never said "let's go out and actively hurt Bard" in a comic evil genius voice.

 

If they knew Bard would basically lose 8mph on his FB, they wouldn't have moved him.

 

Everyone on here wanted a FA SP. No one expected the 4-5 would be Dubs AND Bard. Trying to make Bard a SP wasn't the mistake. The mistake was not signing Buehrle or some else.

[jung]

That was a nice play all around there....I think Nava might have lost that ball just a bit as he, ball and wall got close together but he recovered nicely. Ding dong trotting down the first base line got what he deserved outta' that.

[FredLynn]

Yes' date=' because they actively tried to ruin Bard.[/quote']

 

They stood by passively and watched it happen. No one said it was intentional. It was stupid, yes, but not intentional.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Need to put up 2-3 runs this inning. Get right back in this game with a decent inning.

[Palodios]

On the bright side, Morales is pitching very well today. 3.1 scoreless innings. The Red Sox also have a day off tomorrow, so if they throw most of the pen out there today, they can still get a rest for the next series.

[Cocos Disciples]

Nice one-hitter from Bard today. I'd love to see him out of the rotation, but Matsuzaka isn't ready and nobody else is enticing.

[FredLynn]

Pfft' date=' stop being such an opptimist.[/quote']

 

Realist.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Nice one-hitter from Bard today. I'd love to see him out of the rotation' date=' but Matsuzaka isn't ready and nobody else is enticing.[/quote']

 

From what I understand, DiceK is ready.

[jung]

Funny game baseball....Bard totally blows up....probably creating an improbable line cause never should have even gotten outta' the 1st inning....Morales who blows up regularly in relief comes in with all pressure released as Bard has just about removed any pressure from the next guy coming in...."just get us some outs please Mr Morales" and the guy pitches pretty close to lights out for his stint. One more inning for Morales might really be pushin' it though.

[Cocos Disciples]

From what I understand' date=' DiceK is ready.[/quote']

 

Depends how you define "ready" I guess. He was okay in his last rehab start so maybe it's worth a shot soon.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Wow.

 

Retaliation is fine. But don't go head hunting.

[Cocos Disciples]

Bard's wildness is starting to put our own guys in danger too.

[SoxFanForsyth]

Depends how you define "ready" I guess. He was okay in his last rehab start so maybe it's worth a shot soon.

 

He's allowed 1 ER in his last 10.1 IP (2 outings). He's not very efficient, but he's probably a better option than Bard right now.

[Palodios]

From what I understand' date=' DiceK is ready.[/quote']

 

The Red Sox and Bobby V have been saying Dice-k isn't ready. If he can throw 6+ innings in Pawtucket, I don't understand why can't throw them in the majors.

 

On another note, what happened to Cook? He made that one start, got hurt, and hasn't played anywhere, even for rehab.

[Cocos Disciples]

He's allowed 1 ER in his last 10.1 IP (2 outings). He's not very efficient' date=' but he's probably a better option than Bard right now.[/quote']

 

Fair enough. Or we could call up Mark Prior for some 2003 magic (partially kidding, though it would be cool to see him pitch again).

[Station 13]

Bard's wildness is starting to put our own guys in danger too.

 

That was near Youk's head. What a scumbag.

[jung]

Bard's wildness is starting to put our own guys in danger too.

 

I don't know but I tend to put that on V more than the pitchers. There has been several instances now where our pitchers have been crazy wild and V still leaves them out there while they are filling hospital beds.

[SoxFanForsyth]

The Red Sox and Bobby V have been saying Dice-k isn't ready. If he can throw 6+ innings in Pawtucket, I don't understand why can't throw them in the majors.

 

On another note, what happened to Cook? He made that one start, got hurt, and hasn't played anywhere, even for rehab.

 

I was just thinking the same thing - This is from ESPN Fantasy News.

 

Cook (knee) threw a bullpen session Thursday, the Red Sox' official site reports.

Spin: If he comes out of the session without a problem, the Red Sox will put him on a pitching program, according to manager Bobby Valentine.

[Palodios]

Punto bomb.

[lesterkett]

oh nooo punto nooo pleaseee

[SoxFanForsyth]

Dammit. Too many blown opportunities.

[jung]

Damn would have loved to see Hutchinson pay for hitting Youk. He has had Youk's number the whole game and hits him....stupid....would have loved to see Youk stomp on home plate for that one.

[SoxFanForsyth]

That ball looked like it was hit way harder than the ball that Cooper hit, but Cooper's ball carried. Such ********.

[FredLynn]

Punto bomb.

 

Punto bumm...

On the subject of DiceK: he can get more ready at Fenway Park. We can no longer afford Daniel Bard in the rotation. We will still need another SP to replace Doubront when he reaches his innings limit, and I don't really want to see Cook in that role. Someone of higher quality perhaps.

[lesterkett]

morales is the sp we need

[Palodios]

Morales is going to get hurt out there, 4 innings for a reliever is dangerous.