John Henry bids for Liverpool FC

[Dojji]

So the Prawn Sandwich Brigade would be kind of like our "Pink Hats," people who support the team because it's stylish rather than because they understand and love the sport, the team, or the traditions of the team. Named after the girlfriends of fans basically, ladies who show up in girlified versions of team paraphanelia in a way that screams "I'm a little too good to wear the real team colors but I want to be seen to support the team because it's the thing to do, I guess." (imagine a pink LFC jersey and you might have some idea of how the die-hards regard that).

[flred]

There have been only 4 occasions in the last 45 years that neither Rangers or Celtic have won the scots league - 3 of those were Aberdeen under Alex Ferguson (the current manager of Manchester United btw Sox)

 

And they say the English Premiership is predicable!

[SlasherB]

So the Prawn Sandwich Brigade would be kind of like our "Pink Hats' date='" people who support the team because it's stylish rather than because they understand and love the sport, the team, or the traditions of the team. Named after the girlfriends of fans basically, ladies who show up in girlified versions of team paraphanelia in a way that screams "I'm a little too good to wear the real team colors but I want to be seen to support the team because it's the thing to do, I guess." (imagine a pink LFC jersey and you might have some idea of how the die-hards regard that).[/quote']

 

Pretty much mate. I HATE the "Pink Hats" brigade.

Chicks wanting to go to the game with the lads......

The Prawn Sandwich crap came from a Roy Keane quote about the "New Fans" that started to attend United games when they started winning.

Just like when we see "stars" at Fenway next to the owners etc.

Everyone loves winners.....!!!!

[flred]

So the Prawn Sandwich Brigade would be kind of like our "Pink Hats' date='" people who support the team because it's stylish rather than because they understand and love the sport, the team, or the traditions of the team. Named after the girlfriends of fans basically, ladies who show up in girlified versions of team paraphanelia in a way that screams "I'm a little too good to wear the real team colors but I want to be seen to support the team because it's the thing to do, I guess." (imagine a pink LFC jersey and you might have some idea of how the die-hards regard that).[/quote']

 

Sort of, but it's the success badge rather than the trendy label. They tend to be called gloryboys, a class lower than fair-weather supporters. The PSBs have plenty of money (use corporate boxes), go to home games expecting a win and lose interest when it's not forthcoming. Gloryboys will wear the colors but don't bother going to games, and take the shirt off when the team isn't successful. All clubs have them, some more than others. Probably down to media exposure.

[BigSox]

So the Prawn Sandwich Brigade would be kind of like our "Pink Hats' date='" people who support the team because it's stylish rather than because they understand and love the sport, the team, or the traditions of the team. Named after the girlfriends of fans basically, ladies who show up in girlified versions of team paraphanelia in a way that screams "I'm a little too good to wear the real team colors but I want to be seen to support the team because it's the thing to do, I guess." (imagine a pink LFC jersey and you might have some idea of how the die-hards regard that).[/quote']

Everton wear a pink shirt :thumbsup:

 

http://www.footballkitnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Everton-away-shirt-2010.jpg

[BigSox]

Sort of' date=' but it's the success badge rather than the trendy label. They tend to be called gloryboys, a class lower than fair-weather supporters. The PSBs have plenty of money (use corporate boxes), go to home games expecting a win and lose interest when it's not forthcoming. Gloryboys will wear the colors but don't bother going to games, and take the shirt off when the team isn't successful. All clubs have them, some more than others. Probably down to media exposure.[/quote']

Somehow I cant see Hereford having gloryboys...

[JohnShaft]

So the Prawn Sandwich Brigade would be kind of like our "Pink Hats' date='" people who support the team because it's stylish rather than because they understand and love the sport, the team, or the traditions of the team. Named after the girlfriends of fans basically, ladies who show up in girlified versions of team paraphanelia in a way that screams "I'm a little too good to wear the real team colors but I want to be seen to support the team because it's the thing to do, I guess." (imagine a pink LFC jersey and you might have some idea of how the die-hards regard that).[/quote']

 

The hardcore in football support mostly don't wear colours. Don't get me wrong a lot of the support do but as I say the hardcore don't. I don't wear colours myself and never would but I dont have a problem with fellas wearing a replica to the match as long as it doesn't have anything stupid like I 8 MANU or anything like that on the back. Believe it or not I once saw a fella dressed in the full goalie kit, socks the lot. What a quilt.

[SlasherB]

Pink Hats......Prawn Sambo's......Gloryboys.......!!!!

 

The way the game changed from the old FA to the "Premiership" created a whole new fan base.

The fairweather fans who jumped on an off many a band wagon. (The New Chelsea plastic fans for one!)

 

The younger ones in our fan base are a lot more educated into the traditions of Liverpool.

It all comes from the generations previous who have lived through those old days.

Similar to the Sox. I have lived here almost 14 years and many of my friends are all die hard socks fans.

Experiencing 2004 and again in 2007, most people thought that the long 89 years would go on and on.

The pain and traditions and history was passed along through generations.

 

VERY SIMILAR to Liverpool fans.

Let's hope that the courts do not allow Hicks to scupper this deal.

[flred]

Somehow I cant see Hereford having gloryboys...

 

Watch what happens with FA ties when a top prem clubs comes to town. "Fans" come out of the woodwork, buy a shirt, go to the game, and never come back.

 

Compare Wycombe's non-league attendances before they moved to Adams park, and started romping the Conference. Likewise with Woking. Wycombe made the league but their gates are generally lower than what the got in non-league (they don't win every game now). Woking got a lot of success from FA runs, were clocking 4000 fans in the league, and now look at them. They're complete poo now, rotting away with massive debts, and around 1100 attendance. They too had pink shirts one season, although they called it salmon

[flred]

Let's hope that the courts do not allow Hicks to scupper this deal.

 

What do you make of the Gillett hobbit in all this? He's been very quiet for a while now, and probably the one to keep an eye on. After all, he was the one that did the sneaking around with Parry and Klinsmann. Has he thrown in the towel and just wants to get out, or is he up to something?

[flred]

Believe it or not I once saw a fella dressed in the full goalie kit' date=' socks the lot. What a quilt.[/quote']

 

Classic! It wasn't Jimmy Hill was it?

[JohnShaft]

What do you make of the Gillett hobbit in all this? He's been very quiet for a while now' date=' and probably the one to keep an eye on. After all, he was the one that did the sneaking around with Parry and Klinsmann. Has he thrown in the towel and just wants to get out, or is he up to something?[/quote']

 

Mill Finance own his share

[BigSox]

Watch what happens with FA ties when a top prem clubs comes to town. "Fans" come out of the woodwork, buy a shirt, go to the game, and never come back.

 

Compare Wycombe's non-league attendances before they moved to Adams park, and started romping the Conference. Likewise with Woking. Wycombe made the league but their gates are generally lower than what the got in non-league (they don't win every game now). Woking got a lot of success from FA runs, were clocking 4000 fans in the league, and now look at them. They're complete poo now, rotting away with massive debts, and around 1100 attendance. They too had pink shirts one season, although they called it salmon

S'a good point there. Bristol Rovers took 40000 fans to Wembley when they won the play-offs, and have regularly failed to get a full house in their ground of 11000 since

[flred]

Mill Finance own his share

 

Really? I though the had lawyers at the board meeting when the offer was accepted?

[Redguard]

The hardcore in football support mostly don't wear colours. Don't get me wrong a lot of the support do but as I say the hardcore don't. I don't wear colours myself and never would but I dont have a problem with fellas wearing a replica to the match as long as it doesn't have anything stupid like I 8 MANU or anything like that on the back. Believe it or not I once saw a fella dressed in the full goalie kit' date=' socks the lot[/b']. What a quilt.

 

Are you sure that it wasn't Pepe?

[flred]

S'a good point there. Bristol Rovers took 40000 fans to Wembley when they won the play-offs' date=' and have regularly failed to get a full house in their ground of 11000 since[/quote']

 

Ah yes, Rovers. Didn't they end up playing in Bath's dump of a ground for a while?

[BigSox]

Ah yes' date=' Rovers. Didn't they end up playing in Bath's dump of a ground for a while?[/quote']

They did, but that was back a bit now. Went into a groundshare with Bristol Rugby and bought the ground off them outright when the rugby club were going under. That cash saved the rugby club though.

[JohnShaft]

Are you sure that it wasn't Pepe?

 

hahaha I wish it was. A couple of weeks before I saw a feller in a red bathrobe, needless to say I had to resist the urge to slap some sense into both of those clowns.

[flred]

They did' date=' but that was back a bit now. Went into a groundshare with Bristol Rugby and bought the ground off them outright when the rugby club were going under. That cash saved the rugby club though.[/quote']

 

I'm surprised they had the money, I thought the moved in with Bath because they were skint. Nice that it saved another club for the time being.

[BigSox]

I'm surprised they had the money' date=' I thought the moved in with Bath because they were skint. Nice that it saved another club for the time being.[/quote']

True but the rugby club are now tenants in the ground they held for about 75 years

[Redguard]

Interesting read ...................

 

For soccer fans, it’s a match

 

http://www.boston.com/sports/soccer/articles/2010/10/07/for_soccer_fans_its_a_match/

 

Miranda McGill grew up in Liverpool, and besides leaving her family, the hardest thing about moving to Boston 11 years ago was leaving behind the only team that mattered: Liverpool Football Club.

 

Like a lot of people from Merseyside, McGill lived for the soccer played by Liverpool FC. But she settled in at MIT to study architecture, and while she continued to watch Liverpool matches on satellite TV in the pubs of Boston and Cambridge, she found herself inexorably attracted to a different team and a different sport. She became an inveterate Boston Red Sox fan.

 

“The passion of the fans, the atmosphere at Fenway Park, reminded me so much of Anfield,’’ she said, referring to Liverpool FC’s storied stadium.

 

But there was an inverse relationship between her lifelong love and her adopted love: As the Red Sox broke an 86-year drought to win the World Series twice in four seasons, and in the process became one of the most profitable franchises in baseball, Liverpool, one of the most successful soccer teams in the world, fell on hard times.

 

So when she woke up yesterday and learned that the owners of the Red Sox were about to buy Liverpool FC, Miranda McGill looked skyward and thanked her lucky stars.

 

“It makes sense,’’ she said. “It just makes sense.’’

 

Red Sox fans and Liverpool supporters are kindred spirits. Red Sox fans hate the Yankees, the most famous and richest baseball team in the world. Liverpool fans hate Manchester United, the most famous and richest soccer team in the world.

 

The rivalries, and the emotions they produce, are remarkably similar.

 

Bostonians and Liverpudlians are kindred spirits, too. The single most significant event in shaping immigration to both cities in the 19th century was Ireland’s potato blight. In both cities, all sorts of people are Irish by osmosis.

 

Bostonians and Liverpudlians have healthy inferiority complexes — we look south to New York, they look east to Manchester — and share the common, unshakable belief that no actors can do our accents justice in movies.

 

The Yankees and Manchester United entered a joint marketing deal nine years ago. Principal Red Sox owner John Henry is no dummy. He and his people know that Liverpool is one of the most internationally recognized soccer brands in the world. This is as much about selling hats and jerseys as it is about putting people in seats at Anfield.

 

It might also be about TV. It was only last year that ESPN began showing Premier League soccer games live from England. There’s gold, and licensing deals, in them thar hills.

 

Speaking of Anfield, it is the Fenway Park of English football. Its 45,000-seat capacity is the smallest among the big clubs. And while the previous owners had vowed to build a much bigger stadium, many Liverpool fans are hopelessly devoted to the relative intimacy and tradition of the old one and would rather see it renovated and expanded than knocked down.

 

“I’m an architect, and I can tell you that regenerating Anfield is a far better solution,’’ McGill said. “We’ve seen what Henry did at Fenway Park, and I think there’s similar potential to expand and improve Anfield while keeping its character intact.’’

 

Liverpool fans can be forgiven for being wary about exchanging one group of American owners for another. In just three years, current owners Tom Hicks, who used to own the Texas Rangers, and George Gillett, who used to own the Montreal Canadiens, have run the team into the ground, burying it in debt.

 

Liverpool has suffered through its worst start in a half-century, losing to lowly clubs, most recently Blackpool and Northampton — the latter loss being akin to the Red Sox losing to the Bad News Bears.

 

Tim Treacy, chairman of the Liverpool FC Supporters Club of Boston, who gather at the Phoenix Landing pub in Cambridge’s Central Square to watch games in rowdy, rapt attention, said the only reservation he and many other Liverpool fans have is financing.

 

“It can’t be another situation of borrowing a lot of money and running up a lot of debt,’’ said Treacy, a native of Ireland who moved here four years ago to get his doctorate in music therapy at Boston University. “But I’m encouraged, because I’ve seen what they’ve been able to do with the Red Sox. Henry knows how to make money, and he’s not afraid to spend it on players.’’

 

Treacy also likes the Red Sox’ philosophy of mixing highly paid superstars acquired by free agency with more modestly paid, home-grown talent raised in the farm system. The wealthiest owners of teams in England’s Premier League have gone the route of the former at the expense of the latter, creating huge payrolls but not necessarily good teams.

 

When McGill married her American husband six years ago, she walked down the aisle of Cambridge Christ Church to the strains of “You’ll Never Walk Alone,’’ Liverpool’s anthem, which is shouted from the terraces of Anfield with a passion considerably more intense than “Sweet Caroline’’ at Fenway.

 

“As my mum says, if I can’t be in Liverpool, the next-best place is Boston,’’ she said.

 

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Having had time to digest some articles and listen to sports news, I'm very upbeat that not only will LFC arise like a Pheonix from the ashes, but that there will be a very firm bond with the Red Sox. It appears that Henry and the rest of the lads knowhow to turn around our club and understand our passion.

 

YNWA.

 

[SlasherB]

What do you make of the Gillett hobbit in all this? He's been very quiet for a while now' date=' and probably the one to keep an eye on. After all, he was the one that did the sneaking around with Parry and Klinsmann. Has he thrown in the towel and just wants to get out, or is he up to something?[/quote']

 

I heard he has not got a pot to piss in nor a window to throw it out of!

That's why Hicks wanted to buy out the debt with loans and refinance of the whole amount.

[SlasherB]

Interesting read ...................

 

For soccer fans, it’s a match

 

http://www.boston.com/sports/soccer/articles/2010/10/07/for_soccer_fans_its_a_match/

 

Miranda McGill grew up in Liverpool, and besides leaving her family, the hardest thing about moving to Boston 11 years ago was leaving behind the only team that mattered: Liverpool Football Club.

 

Like a lot of people from Merseyside, McGill lived for the soccer played by Liverpool FC. But she settled in at MIT to study architecture, and while she continued to watch Liverpool matches on satellite TV in the pubs of Boston and Cambridge, she found herself inexorably attracted to a different team and a different sport. She became an inveterate Boston Red Sox fan.

 

“The passion of the fans, the atmosphere at Fenway Park, reminded me so much of Anfield,’’ she said, referring to Liverpool FC’s storied stadium.

 

But there was an inverse relationship between her lifelong love and her adopted love: As the Red Sox broke an 86-year drought to win the World Series twice in four seasons, and in the process became one of the most profitable franchises in baseball, Liverpool, one of the most successful soccer teams in the world, fell on hard times.

 

So when she woke up yesterday and learned that the owners of the Red Sox were about to buy Liverpool FC, Miranda McGill looked skyward and thanked her lucky stars.

 

“It makes sense,’’ she said. “It just makes sense.’’

 

Red Sox fans and Liverpool supporters are kindred spirits. Red Sox fans hate the Yankees, the most famous and richest baseball team in the world. Liverpool fans hate Manchester United, the most famous and richest soccer team in the world.

 

The rivalries, and the emotions they produce, are remarkably similar.

 

Bostonians and Liverpudlians are kindred spirits, too. The single most significant event in shaping immigration to both cities in the 19th century was Ireland’s potato blight. In both cities, all sorts of people are Irish by osmosis.

 

Bostonians and Liverpudlians have healthy inferiority complexes — we look south to New York, they look east to Manchester — and share the common, unshakable belief that no actors can do our accents justice in movies.

 

The Yankees and Manchester United entered a joint marketing deal nine years ago. Principal Red Sox owner John Henry is no dummy. He and his people know that Liverpool is one of the most internationally recognized soccer brands in the world. This is as much about selling hats and jerseys as it is about putting people in seats at Anfield.

 

It might also be about TV. It was only last year that ESPN began showing Premier League soccer games live from England. There’s gold, and licensing deals, in them thar hills.

 

Speaking of Anfield, it is the Fenway Park of English football. Its 45,000-seat capacity is the smallest among the big clubs. And while the previous owners had vowed to build a much bigger stadium, many Liverpool fans are hopelessly devoted to the relative intimacy and tradition of the old one and would rather see it renovated and expanded than knocked down.

 

“I’m an architect, and I can tell you that regenerating Anfield is a far better solution,’’ McGill said. “We’ve seen what Henry did at Fenway Park, and I think there’s similar potential to expand and improve Anfield while keeping its character intact.’’

 

Liverpool fans can be forgiven for being wary about exchanging one group of American owners for another. In just three years, current owners Tom Hicks, who used to own the Texas Rangers, and George Gillett, who used to own the Montreal Canadiens, have run the team into the ground, burying it in debt.

 

Liverpool has suffered through its worst start in a half-century, losing to lowly clubs, most recently Blackpool and Northampton — the latter loss being akin to the Red Sox losing to the Bad News Bears.

 

Tim Treacy, chairman of the Liverpool FC Supporters Club of Boston, who gather at the Phoenix Landing pub in Cambridge’s Central Square to watch games in rowdy, rapt attention, said the only reservation he and many other Liverpool fans have is financing.

 

“It can’t be another situation of borrowing a lot of money and running up a lot of debt,’’ said Treacy, a native of Ireland who moved here four years ago to get his doctorate in music therapy at Boston University. “But I’m encouraged, because I’ve seen what they’ve been able to do with the Red Sox. Henry knows how to make money, and he’s not afraid to spend it on players.’’

 

Treacy also likes the Red Sox’ philosophy of mixing highly paid superstars acquired by free agency with more modestly paid, home-grown talent raised in the farm system. The wealthiest owners of teams in England’s Premier League have gone the route of the former at the expense of the latter, creating huge payrolls but not necessarily good teams.

 

When McGill married her American husband six years ago, she walked down the aisle of Cambridge Christ Church to the strains of “You’ll Never Walk Alone,’’ Liverpool’s anthem, which is shouted from the terraces of Anfield with a passion considerably more intense than “Sweet Caroline’’ at Fenway.

 

“As my mum says, if I can’t be in Liverpool, the next-best place is Boston,’’ she said.

 

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Having had time to digest some articles and listen to sports news, I'm very upbeat that not only will LFC arise like a Pheonix from the ashes, but that there will be a very firm bond with the Red Sox. It appears that Henry and the rest of the lads knowhow to turn around our club and understand our passion.

 

YNWA.

 

 

I read that this morning mate over the coffee. Nice read. I know a good few from Liverpool over here!

[Redguard]

Hey Slasher, apparently Daggers has done an interview.

[SlasherB]

Redguard, here is the link to it.

Hilarious.

Listen to the part about Clint Dempsey, that's FUNNY!

 

(All in good fun!)

 

Link: http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/translator/2010-10-07/translator-hodgson-fuming-agger-spills-beans-anfield-crisis

[Redguard]

He'll have to communicate better than that. Btw eeeeeehhhh is perfectly understood, isn't it eh?

[Carradona]

Redguard, here is the link to it.

Hilarious.

Listen to the part about Clint Dempsey, that's FUNNY!

 

(All in good fun!)

 

Link: http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/translator/2010-10-07/translator-hodgson-fuming-agger-spills-beans-anfield-crisis

 

haha those talksport interviews are always so funny!

"couldnt give a s***... i literally couldnt give a s***" brilliant

[italstallianion]

I guess that this thread has slowed down significantly since yesterday.

[SlasherB]

I guess that this thread has slowed down significantly since yesterday.

 

Yes, it would appear so.

On a side note, how about Halladay last night eh?

f*** me, Did we get the wrong pitcher in Lackey??????

[Vlads Quiff]

re: the Prawn Sandwich Brigade. I think that was more aimed by Keane at the corporate hospitality lot.

 

regards