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Liverpool fans will be hoping that Lord Grabiner is more successful in the High Court than Torres has been on the pitch so far this season.

 

Liverpool declined to comment today.

 

Why do these lame "reporters" have to have a go at Torres at every opportunity? Considering how injured and "getting back into shape" he's been according to these same tosspots, he's still out performing most forwards in the league, and beaten our best forwards, that played in clearly better sides, to landmark goals scored, and he doesn't actually get much time against the low level opposition or take penalties. These lame shitheads need to compare his stats to granny shaggers and divers found in the top sides before spewing their utter wank.

 

Maybe they're still pissed off and jealous he wore a Liverpool scarf while celebrating his world cup win?

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Many other fans have a dig, but deep down they know that we have the history and we have the passion - something that they'll never have...............

 

 

YNWA

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Hi guys registered here cos i hate lurking on any site.Dont know much about your owners (soon to be ours too) if all goes well.We are hell of a club with a fantastic history which i'm very proud of and hopefully some of you would be to.

Shame its come down to this arguing with our present owners but thats the way it goes i suppose.We have our dull fans that follow us like you do i suppose.Seen a few harsh comments on this thread.But thats what these places are for i suppose to have a total aray of comments :D

if you go on youtube have a look at some of the songs we sing for our players and have a look at our Champions League final in Istanbul.When we were 3 goals to nil down and see what happened:shock::D

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Ok I know Gerrard and Cole are solid players from seeing them in international action. What is the state of the rest of the roster? Big money guys? Young upcoming players?

 

Cole since signing has been less than impressive. We've got better players than him, Reina (our goalkeeper) Great goaly, best in England, easily. We have actually got some good young players coming through lately, but due to our need for money, a lot have been flogged for low low prices. Another of our players (Jamie Carragher. Local lad, 32 been playing for like 12 years here) another cult hero. Dirk Kuyt (Holland international) runs around like a mad horse ::D .We've got some good players, certainly. But not enough of them, and too many 'alright' players like: Poulsen,Jovanovic, Maxi, Babel Etc. Oh and a s*** manager. ;)

 

 

Why do these lame "reporters" have to have a go at Torres at every opportunity? Considering how injured and "getting back into shape" he's been according to these same tosspots, he's still out performing most forwards in the league, and beaten our best forwards, that played in clearly better sides, to landmark goals scored, and he doesn't actually get much time against the low level opposition or take penalties. These lame shitheads need to compare his stats to granny shaggers and divers found in the top sides before spewing their utter wank.

 

Maybe they're still pissed off and jealous he wore a Liverpool scarf while celebrating his world cup win?

 

To be fair, when fit this season, he's been awful :harhar:

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Kind thoughts from the Arsenal Chairman ......(Abridged).

 

http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/liverpool-fc/1211113-arsenal-chief-appalled-by-liverpool-fc-tragedy.html

 

Arsenal chairman Peter Hill-Wood has said: "What's happened at Liverpool is a football tragedy. They were always a model for how a club should be run.

 

"Now they have got themselves in a terrible muddle. I really hope it gets sorted out because I have so much respect for Liverpool."

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@Liverpool

 

How utterly predictable.

 

I'm a Red Sox fan. I also follow Aston Villa - a club proud of it's American connection - not that it has anything to do with anything...

 

Believe you me, as a Sox fan I would be totally outraged if we were to be connected in anyway to Liverpool football club. I urge any Sox fans to look at the anti-American hatred that this club has been spurting out over the past few years.

 

If the Sox were to kook up with Liverpool it would totally destabilize our progress this past decade. We would be signing ourselves up to bailing out a sports club, deep in cancer, looking for a quick fix.

 

Liverpool's suppoters have been harrassing their current owners for two years now, because things haven't been going their way. If Henry offers no quick fix do we want them to plague him, too? No. As I say, Liverpool are a club with many, many problems - if we bail them out those problems will simply spread over to us.

 

No offence "Liverpool", but the Sox are a genuinely legendary sporting institution built on fair play. Your club has a history of hysteria, violence, arrogance and anti-American xenophobia. The Sox should steer WELL clear.

 

First off, were not Anti-American as you claim, were just Anti-Hicks/Gillett. We have no problem with NESV taking control of our club if they are going to provide financial stability

and a winning mentality.

 

Burning the stars and stripes was a quite stupid gesture indeed but it was done by a minority, the same kind of minority that burned a Steven Gerrard shirt a few seasons ago. Namely one that fails to think before it acts.

 

Liverpool football club was formed in 1892, our fans have always acted with dignity and respect for our opposition (Ill explain Hysel to you in a moment), yet Tom Hicks and George Gilletts constant stream of broken promises and lies have forced our hand in recent times.

 

We dont and have never expected to have hundreds of millions of pounds invested in players (A La Man City), we just want enough to be able to compete annually in the transfer market. We as fans would be more than pleased with 40m a year to invest in the squad.... a sum which we are currently paying in interest on leveraged debt, a debt which Hicks and Gillett promised the fans, would never happen.

 

NESV took a chance on the Redsox when they first took charge, your team had won little apparently in the time leading up to it. A club steeped in tradition, passionate fans....... there are many parallels with Liverpool.

 

Now ill give you a brief explanation of what happened all those years ago at Hysel stadium. Liverpool and Juventus fans had and were indulging in some silly activity leading up to kick off. The main problems started when a lone Liverpool fan entered what you would call 'No mans land', a section of terrace separated by two fences, leaving a void of empty terrace. The fan (A young lad) entered the section to tie a scarf around one of the leaning posts (Not sure exactly what its called) which is something both sets of supporters had done to this point. Upon entering, he had various missiles, bottles etc thrown at him. He made a gesture towards the Juve fans and as a result.... was set upon. We reacted......... thats it in a nutshell basically. Both sets of supporters are to blame for what took place yet because of the tragedy which befell the Juve fans we were made scapegoats.

 

Look at our record in England, we have one of the best records in the country and have had for a long time in terms of crowd trouble and violence. There are very few arrests at Liverpool home matches and its been that way for a very, very long time.

 

Overall though, were arent looking for a quick fix. Were just lookign for owners who will stabilize the club. Owners that will allow whatever money the club makes to be invested in the squad, staff and stadium. If you believe that these are unreasonable requests then I dont really know what to say.

 

Liverpool Football Club is 'THE' most successful team in English football history and one of Europes most successful teams, with only Real Madrid and AC Milan having more European Cup/Champions League wins to their name.

 

Our club isnt cancer, it is a Pheonix waiting to rise from the ashes....

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First off, were not Anti-American as you claim, were just Anti-Hicks/Gillett. We have no problem with NESV taking control of our club if they are going to provide financial stability

and a winning mentality.

 

Burning the stars and stripes was a quite stupid gesture indeed but it was done by a minority, the same kind of minority that burned a Steven Gerrard shirt a few seasons ago. Namely one that fails to think before it acts.

 

Liverpool football club was formed in 1892, our fans have always acted with dignity and respect for our opposition (Ill explain Hysel to you in a moment), yet Tom Hicks and George Gilletts constant stream of broken promises and lies have forced our hand in recent times.

 

We dont and have never expected to have hundreds of millions of pounds invested in players (A La Man City), we just want enough to be able to compete annually in the transfer market. We as fans would be more than pleased with 40m a year to invest in the squad.... a sum which we are currently paying in interest on leveraged debt, a debt which Hicks and Gillett promised the fans, would never happen.

 

NESV took a chance on the Redsox when they first took charge, your team had won little apparently in the time leading up to it. A club steeped in tradition, passionate fans....... there are many parallels with Liverpool.

 

Now ill give you a brief explanation of what happened all those years ago at Hysel stadium. Liverpool and Juventus fans had and were indulging in some silly activity leading up to kick off. The main problems started when a lone Liverpool fan entered what you would call 'No mans land', a section of terrace separated by two fences, leaving a void of empty terrace. The fan (A young lad) entered the section to tie a scarf around one of the leaning posts (Not sure exactly what its called) which is something both sets of supporters had done to this point. Upon entering, he had various missiles, bottles etc thrown at him. He made a gesture towards the Juve fans and as a result.... was set upon. We reacted......... thats it in a nutshell basically. Both sets of supporters are to blame for what took place yet because of the tragedy which befell the Juve fans we were made scapegoats.

 

Look at our record in England, we have one of the best records in the country and have had for a long time in terms of crowd trouble and violence. There are very few arrests at Liverpool home matches and its been that way for a very, very long time.

 

Overall though, were arent looking for a quick fix. Were just lookign for owners who will stabilize the club. Owners that will allow whatever money the club makes to be invested in the squad, staff and stadium. If you believe that these are unreasonable requests then I dont really know what to say.

 

Liverpool Football Club is 'THE' most successful team in English football history and one of Europes most successful teams, with only Real Madrid and AC Milan having more European Cup/Champions League wins to their name.

 

Our club isnt cancer, it is a Pheonix waiting to rise from the ashes....

 

couldn't have said it better myself.I notice the posters mentioned nothing about the Evil 2 ahve done to this club of ours<_>

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I might be confused' date=' but wasn't it Sox "fans" that went nuts, smashing up cars or something after beating the Yankees? Or was that another club? (sorry, I'm not up to speed with baseball's underbelly).[/quote']

 

Yes flred, that was after a Sox win in the Series.

 

:blink:

 

Our idiot element is more dangerous after winning championships than they are after defeats.

 

If you said you can find an element in every fanbase--or a group that uses the fanbase as an excuse to engage in malicious activity--then you would be right on target.

 

I'll give you another example. After a win in a college football game in Lubbock, Texas, fans of Texas Tech's Red Raiders charged the field, took down the goalposts, and rushed the posts into the away fans section of Texas A&M supporters. The fight that ensued was like something you would find in a country roadhouse.

 

Liverpool fans really have nothing to apologize for in this regard. You have Anti-American fans? It doesn't represent the clear majority of the fanbase. You have a hooligan element? You'll never walk alone in that regard.

 

All in all, Liverpool--like the Red Sox--are a class act with intelligent fans in the clear majority.

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No flred' date=' that was after a Sox [i']win[/i] in the Series.

 

:blink:

 

Our idiot element is more dangerous after winning championships than they are after defeats.

 

If you said you can find an element in every fanbase--or a group that uses the fanbase as an excuse to engage in malicious activity--then you would be right on target.

 

I'll give you another example. After a win in a college football game in Lubbock, Texas, fans of Texas Tech's Red Raiders charged the field, took down the goalposts, and rushed the posts into the away fans section of Texas A&M supporters. The fight that ensued was like something you would find in a country roadhouse.

 

Liverpool fans really have nothing to apologize for in this regard. You have Anti-American fans? It doesn't represent the clear majority of the fanbase. You have a hooligan element? You'll never walk alone in that regard.

 

All in all, Liverpool--like the Red Sox--are a class act with intelligent fans in the clear majority.

i'll take that post anyday dude:D

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Yes flred' date=' that was after a Sox [i']win[/i] in the Series.

 

:blink:

 

Our idiot element is more dangerous after winning championships than they are after defeats.

 

If you said you can find an element in every fanbase--or a group that uses the fanbase as an excuse to engage in malicious activity--then you would be right on target.

 

I'll give you another example. After a win in a college football game in Lubbock, Texas, fans of Texas Tech's Red Raiders charged the field, took down the goalposts, and rushed the posts into the away fans section of Texas A&M supporters. The fight that ensued was like something you would find in a country roadhouse.

 

Liverpool fans really have nothing to apologize for in this regard. You have Anti-American fans? It doesn't represent the clear majority of the fanbase. You have a hooligan element? You'll never walk alone in that regard.

 

All in all, Liverpool--like the Red Sox--are a class act with intelligent fans in the clear majority.

 

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Court Date Set - Tomorrow 12th of October COURT 16

Before MR JUSTICE FLOYD

Tuesday, 12 October 2010

At half past 10

Skeleton arguments and bundles for any listed application must be delivered by 10 a.m. on the day before the hearing of the application: see paragraph 7.22 of the Chancery Guide (December 2009). The Chancery Listing Office will accept them if delivered to Room WG4 in time. The papers for any urgent unlisted application (and any skeleton argument or bundle sought to be delivered out of time) must be delivered directly to the Judge's Clerk.

 

Further directions and information about interim applications, and the skeleton arguments and bundles to be prepared for them, will be found in chapters 5 and 7 of the Chancery Guide.

 

Attention is drawn in particular to paragraphs 7.31 and 32 of the Chancery Guide, which warn of the consequences, including costs sanctions, which may follow from the failure to lodge skeleton arguments and bundles on time.

 

APPLICATIONS

Exception VAR Ltd v Goff

Drummond v Drummond

Superyachts.com Ltd v Bodington

Wilkinson v North

Lloyds TSB v Williams Gee Yeung Law

Slutsker v Haron Investments

Royal Bank of Scotland PLC v Hicks & ors

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Re the High Court tomorrow:

 

To quote an ITV commentator before the Champs League penalties in 2005-

 

'Here we go! - Fingers crossed for Liverpool'

Posted

Liverpool takeover: court case between RBS and Tom Hicks to begin on Tuesday

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8056160/Liverpool-takeover-court-case-between-RBS-and-Tom-Hicks-to-begin-on-Tuesday.html

 

The battle for the ownership of Liverpool will begin in the High Court on Tuesday, with Royal Bank of Scotland seeking to enforce contractual agreements made by Tom Hicks and George Gillett that the bank believes have been breached

 

By Paul Kelso, Chief Sports Reporter

 

RBS revealed this afternoon that it was granted an interim injunction against the American co-owners on Friday, preventing them from making any changes to the board of the football club or its holding companies.

The bank’s move comes after Hicks and Gillett tried to block the sale of the club to New England Sports Ventures by removing managing director Christian Purslow and commercial director Ian Ayre from the board.

 

Purslow, Ayre and chairman Martin Broughton had agreed to accept a ?300m offer from NESV against the wishes of Hicks and Gillett, who believe the price undervalues the club.

The RBS action, which will be heard at 10.30am by Mr Justice Floyd at the Royal Courts of Justice on The Strand, is separate from a “declaratory judgment” being sought by Broughton to approve the sale.

Broughton said last week that the co-owners are in breach of under-takings that allowed him to appoint the board, and required them not to block any “reasonable” sale.

As these undertakings were made to RBS rather than the club however the bank will test them legally first before Broughton begins his action. In a statement RBS made it clear that its legal action is not an attempt to call in ?237m of loans that become due on Friday, or to appoint an administrator.

The statement said: “RBS in its capacity as lender to the Kop group of companies received the benefit of various contractual undertakings from Mr Hicks and Mr Gillett in relation to the corporate governance arrangements that Mr Hicks and Mr Gillett agreed would apply to the Kop group of companies with effect from April 2010.

 

Those undertakings provided for the appointment of Mr Broughton as chairman of the board and the appointment of the chief executive and commercial director of LFC to the Kop boards.

“As is well known, Mr Hicks and Mr Gillett purported to make changes to those corporate governance arrangements on 4 October. This was in breach of those contractual undertakings.

 

In light of that purported breach of contract RBS sought and obtained on Friday 8 October 2010 an interim injunction against Mr Hicks and Mr Gillett until a further hearing scheduled for tomorrow.

Among other things, that interim injunction prevents Mr Hicks or Mr Gillett taking any steps to remove or replace Mr Broughton from his position as chairman of the board of the Kop companies or from taking any other steps to appoint or remove any directors from the board of the Kop companies.

 

The proceedings tomorrow represent the continuation of Friday's proceedings and relates to breach of contract only. These proceedings do not represent steps by RBS to enforce its security or to appoint an administrator.

 

We are unable to provide any visibility on timing for resolution of these proceedings at this stage.”

The RBS action is the start of what could be a protracted legal process which may test the patience of NESV. The suggestion that administration with a nine-point deduction may be the only mechanism for the club to change control has caused concern in John W Henry’s group.

They have suggested they will walk away from the deal if the club is docked nine points, and have secured a clause in the deal signed with Broughton in the early hours of Wednesday allowing it to renegotiate the price in the event of administration.

 

NESV’s change in position comes after the Premier League told the club board that a nine-point deduction was a “significant risk” even if the administration occurred at Liverpool’s holding company Kop Football (Holdings) Ltd.

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Liverpool to receive new bid from Singapore billionaire

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11518079

 

 

The bidding contest for Liverpool FC may not be over, the BBC can reveal.

 

The runner-up in the contest, Peter Lim, a Singapore billionaire, is to approach Liverpool's board with a view to making a higher offer for the club.

 

According to sources close to Mr Lim, he was the club's preferred bidder in the closing stages of the auction.

 

He had talks with Liverpool's chairman about how to announce his takeover, such was the apparent confidence that he would win the contest.

 

'No loans'

 

Mr Lim learned he was not the victor only a few hours before the club's chairman, Martin Broughton, announced on 6 October that Liverpool would be sold to John Henry's New England Sport Ventures for ?300m.

 

Continue reading the main story

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He never had a chance to negotiate directly with Royal Bank [of Scotland] He was expecting to do so, after agreeing the takeover with the board”

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Source close to Peter Lim

 

Mr Lim, who is being advised by the British firm of lawyers Macfarlanes and by the Wong Partnership of Singapore, still does not know why Mr Broughton went with New England Sports Ventures, owners of the Boston Red Sox.

 

He believes that in purely monetary terms, his offer was at least as attractive as Mr Henry's.

 

Mr Lim, too, was offering to repay all of Royal Bank of Scotland's and Wachovia's ?200m of long-term debt, to take on ?60m of other debt and to inject ?40m of working capital.

 

What's more - and Mr Lim regards this as crucial - all the money being provided by him would come from his own cash resources. He is not planning to borrow any of it.

 

I understand he is also offering to provide tens of millions of pounds to Liverpool's manager, Roy Hodgson, to allow him to buy players when the transfer window opens in January.

 

According to executives close to Mr Lim, he was told by Mr Broughton that his ability to fund the takeover for cash, and the size of his cash resources, meant he was a more attractive owner than New England Sports Ventures.

 

Mr Lim was told that Liverpool's board was concerned that New England Sports Ventures would have to borrow to finance the takeover - raising questions about whether Liverpool really would break free from the financial shackles perceived to have been imposed by the current owners, George Gillett and Tom Hicks.

 

In the event, New England Sports Ventures have insisted it will not load up Liverpool FC with debt.

 

But there are no guarantees that there will not be significant debt further up the corporate ownership structure of New England Sports Ventures - which could limit how much money Mr Henry and his colleagues can inject into Liverpool in the future.

 

Mr Lim is keeping a close eye on the court case, which starts on Tuesday.

 

The case is supposed to rule on whether Mr Broughton can sell Liverpool to New England Sports Ventures against the wishes of Mr Hicks and Mr Gillett.

 

The Singapore billionaire believes the judgement in that case may give him an opportunity to bid again, whatever Mr Broughton may wish.

 

Business empire

 

Mr Lim is also prepared to buy Liverpool, should it ultimately collapse into administration under UK insolvency procedures.

 

According to sources close to him, he feels that he may have been shut out because New England made an offer to Royal Bank of Scotland to pay some of the ?40m penalty fees the banks have demanded.

 

If that is the case, he believes Royal Bank may have done a poor deal, because he would be prepared to pay RBS and Wachovia more than the ?10m or so which New England Sports Ventures is said to have put on the table.

 

"He never had a chance to negotiate directly with Royal Bank [of Scotland]," said a source. "He was expecting to do so, after agreeing the takeover with the board."

 

Mr Lim has an estimated net worth of $1.6bn (?1bn), according to Forbes Magazine.

 

He made his fortune in fashion, logistics and agri-business.

 

His interest in English football stems from his ownership of several Manchester United themed bars in Asia - which have persuaded him that there is huge global potential for making money from top-flight English football.

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Sort of makes you wonder why the boardconsidered NESV as the more appropriate bidder. He runs Man Utd themed bars indeed. You have to question the depth of his knowledge of the English Premier League, and its tribalism!

 

This guy doesnt appear to have any experience with sports management and I suspect that he may not be prepared/able to offer the long term talent development that NESV are willing to bring to the club. Everyone is talking about big numbers on this purchase, but I doubt that this new guy is willing to offer THAT much more or Martin Broughton would have been OBLIGATED to consider a substantially higher bid.

 

My gut instinct is to stick with NESV as they've stated development goals for the Club, and have an apparent willingness to engage/work with, the fan base.

 

Remember: Money doesnt equal commitment - Citehs previous billionaire demonstrated that.......

 

Could all be a bit of a smokescreen however. We must all keep digging in case he has any connections with H&G! I wouldnt put it past Hicks to double bum us!

Posted
Sort of makes you wonder why the boardconsidered NESV as the more appropriate bidder. He runs Man Utd themed bars indeed. You have to question the depth of his knowledge of the English Premier League, and its tribalism!

 

This guy doesnt appear to have any experience with sports management and I suspect that he may not be prepared/able to offer the long term talent development that NESV are willing to bring to the club. Everyone is talking about big numbers on this purchase, but I doubt that this new guy is willing to offer THAT much more or Martin Broughton would have been OBLIGATED to consider a substantially higher bid.

 

My gut instinct is to stick with NESV as they've stated development goals for the Club, and have an apparent willingness to engage/work with, the fan base.

 

Remember: Money doesnt equal commitment - Citehs previous billionaire demonstrated that.......

 

Could all be a bit of a smokescreen however. We must all keep digging in case he has any connections with H&G! I wouldnt put it past Hicks to double bum us!

This would be a more sustainable owner though. Citys billionare owner won't be in it for the long term, he done it to get a bit of publicity, and amusement, it won't be long before he pulls out, and a City firesale goes ahead. He's only just attended his first City game, two or so years into his tenure.

 

'John Henry to attend Liverpools merseyside derby if his takeover is successful' awesome

Posted
NESV has no intention of losing Liverpool to Lim...........

 

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=831450&sec=england&cc=5739

 

ESPNsoccernet can disclose New England Sports Ventures (NESV) has a watertight contract to purchase Liverpool and has no intention of relinquishing that right despite a late attempt from Singapore businessman Peter Lim to launch a rival takeover bid.

 

Well then surely they still want to buy if we enter Admin.:blink:

Posted
NESV has no intention of losing Liverpool to Lim...........

 

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=831450&sec=england&cc=5739

 

ESPNsoccernet can disclose New England Sports Ventures (NESV) has a watertight contract to purchase Liverpool and has no intention of relinquishing that right despite a late attempt from Singapore businessman Peter Lim to launch a rival takeover bid.

 

Me LIKEY LIKEY!!!!

Posted
Well then surely they still want to buy if we enter Admin.:blink:

 

That's a very good question mate. Not knowing the ins & outs myself, however I'm fairly confident, (going by what Broughton & Purslow said recently). Also by recent interviewing with so called 'financial experts' by SSN - G&H chances look very slim. There again - he did qualify it by saying that no-one really knows how it will transpire when these matters do go to court.

Posted

Given the new ruling from 2013 around only spending what you earn commercially, I'd rather have NESV than some bloke with a few restaurants.

NESV will sweat the lfc brand, and seem to understand the philosophy of investing in the product to gain better revenue.

Posted
Given the new ruling from 2013 around only spending what you earn commercially, I'd rather have NESV than some bloke with a few restaurants.

NESV will sweat the lfc brand, and seem to understand the philosophy of investing in the product to gain better revenue.

 

Broughton was quite mindful of NESV in relation to the impending Uefa regs. This article may be of interest to you.....

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/oct/08/martin-broughton-liverpool-takeover-bid

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