The Official 2010 Hot Stove Thread.

[redsoxrules]

The whole cliff lee is starting to be annoying

 

last week: Cliff Lee to decide before Sunday

 

on sunday night: Cliff Lee needs an extra day and will decide Monday

 

today: Cliff Lee decision not until Tuesday

 

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Dear Cliff Lee,

 

Hurry up and pick the Rangers. Thanks.

[italstallianion]

Rotoworld:

 

ESPN Boston's Gordon Edes reports that the Red Sox are eying Brian Fuentes, Jesse Crain and Matt Guerrier as bullpen upgrades.

The Sox don't have anyone locked in from the left side in their bullpen, so Fuentes might make the most sense. Fuentes reportedly is seeking $6-8 million per season and still wants to be a closer, but he seems unlikely to get either of his wishes.

Source: Gordon Edes on Twitter

 

 

Just as I said. Hopefully we can sign 2 of them.

[VA Sox Fan]

The whole cliff lee is starting to be annoying

 

last week: Cliff Lee to decide before Sunday

 

on sunday night: Cliff Lee needs an extra day and will decide Monday

 

today: Cliff Lee decision not until Tuesday

 

 

I've heard he'll decide "sometime this week" <_>

[redsoxrules]

Rotoworld:

 

ESPN Boston's Gordon Edes reports that the Red Sox are eying Brian Fuentes, Jesse Crain and Matt Guerrier as bullpen upgrades.

The Sox don't have anyone locked in from the left side in their bullpen, so Fuentes might make the most sense. Fuentes reportedly is seeking $6-8 million per season and still wants to be a closer, but he seems unlikely to get either of his wishes.

Source: Gordon Edes on Twitter

 

 

Just as I said. Hopefully we can sign 2 of them.

 

WTF? Downs was a cheaper price and better !

 

he should have gotten downs, oh well I cant complain too much considering he got Gonzo and Crawford

[VA Sox Fan]

I'm betting Philly is the mystery team

 

Good call:

 

Phillies unveiled as mystery team for Lee

Posted by Peter Abraham, Globe Staff December 13, 2010 07:24 PM

 

Ken Rosenthal of Fox has learned the identify of the mystery team in the Cliff Lee derby. The Phillies are it.

 

Wait a second, didn't the Phillies have Lee last season before trading him to Seattle for a bag of rocks?

 

Presumably Red Sox fans are enjoying watching the Yankees and Rangers squirm.

 

By the time this is over, Lee will get $25 million a year from the Yankees and Mrs. Lee a bullet and spit-proof luxury box behind the plate for every game.

[Palodios]

If Halladay is a bag of rocks, I want to know what a bag of gold is in the mlb

[Dipre]

I hate Cliff Lee.

 

He's being disrespectful and downright mean by taking his time to think things through on a decision that will affect him and his family for quite possibly the next seven years. It's not like he has a ton of factors to consider. Douche.

[The Celtbot]

I hate Cliff Lee.

 

He's being disrespectful and downright mean by taking his time to think things through on a decision that will affect him and his family for quite possibly the next seven years. It's not like he has a ton of factors to consider. Douche.

 

Damn right! :thumbsup:

[VA Sox Fan]

I hate Cliff Lee.

 

He's being disrespectful and downright mean by taking his time to think things through on a decision that will affect him and his family for quite possibly the next seven years. It's not like he has a ton of factors to consider. Douche.

 

He can wait until March for all I care. DO NOT GO TO THE NYY!!

[italstallianion]

I'd love to see the Red Sox work out a trade with the Phillies or Rangers to pick up a reliever or a RH bat and free up money to help one of those 2 teams sign Cliff Lee. It'd be a great way to kill 2 birds with one stone.

[Meh]

I'd love to see the Red Sox work out a trade with the Phillies or Rangers to pick up a reliever or a RH bat and free up money to help one of those 2 teams sign Cliff Lee. It'd be a great way to kill 2 birds with one stone.

 

Halladay, Lee, Hamels, Oswalt... why would you want to help create that? No way would the Yankees or Red Sox or anyone be able to sniff that.

[italstallianion]

Halladay' date=' Lee, Hamels, Oswalt... why would you want to help create that? No way would the Yankees or Red Sox or anyone be able to sniff that.[/quote']

 

 

 

I'd take the Yankees down with me.

[Meh]

I'd take the Yankees down with me.

 

ok...

[bsox0407]

Jon Heyman

the #phillies look like a very strong candidate to win lee's services.

[bsox0407]

Joel Sherman

At thsi moment, #Yankees have become extremely negative about landing Lee and believing that he is edging toward #Phillies

[italstallianion]

WTF? Downs was a cheaper price and better !

 

he should have gotten downs, oh well I cant complain too much considering he got Gonzo and Crawford

 

 

First off, we would have given up a draft pick for Scott Downs. Second there's a difference between what a reliever wants and what a reliever gets. Just because some of the other relievers want more than what Downs got, doesn't mean that they will get what Downs got. Until those relievers sign, you can't compare them to what Downs got.

 

 

Edit: And another point is that because teams had to give up a draft pick for Downs, meant that Downs had much less leverage in negotiating prices so that meant that he was more likely to get less money. The other relievers don't come with a draft pick in the price tag, so they have more leverage and can get more money from teams. So even IF Downs cost less money, that doesn't mean that he was cheaper and was the better choice for the Red Sox.

[redsoxrules]

so now apparantly Lee is close to signing with the Phillies

[italstallianion]

Halladay' date=' Lee, Hamels, Oswalt... why would you want to help create that? No way would the Yankees or Red Sox or anyone be able to sniff that.[/quote']

 

 

To your point, we'd be helping ourselves in the trade and f***** the Yankees over. It works on multiple levels for me, assuming that they had a player of value for us in return. Obviously I wouldn't take on a player's salary just to f*** the Yankees, but if they had a player that we could use and that salary would free up the Phillies chance to sign Lee, then I'd do it.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

Jon Heyman

the #phillies look like a very strong candidate to win lee's services.

 

Not good enough. I want him to sign a deal already so I can celebrate.

[italstallianion]

Now it says that Lee is unlikely to sign tonight, but will likely sign by tomorrow morning.

[RedSoxfanforlife305]

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac23/torzy86/tww_mood/happy.gif

 

This will be us if he signs with the Phillies.

[Station 13]

Phillies..........whaaaaaa??????????

[Cocos Disciples]

The Phillies would have the best rotation in this generation. Halladay-Lee-Oswalt-Hamels. Holy s***.

[MNSoxChief102]

If he signs with Philly, they have to be the favorites to take the National League. Halladay, Lee, Oswalt, and Hamels at 1-4 in their rotation would be ridiculous to say the least.

[Palodios]

Pwnage. This guy is determining the fate of the 2011 World Series right now haha.

[italstallianion]

They're generally favourites in the NL anyway with what they have, especially with their lineup. This would just make it cash in the bank.

[bsox0407]

It would definitely make up for losing Werth. Phillies fans are gonna go crazy if they get him.

[MNSoxChief102]

The Phillies would have the best rotation in this generation. Halladay-Lee-Oswalt-Hamels. Holy s***.

 

No joke. Their offense might take a hit considering the loss of Werth and the fact that they'd likely have to move Ibanez to afford Lee, but it wouldn't matter if all four stay healthy and effective. In the post-season, that rotation would literally be unstoppable.

 

That said, all four of those guys have weaknesses and they all can be beat when they go up against a lineup full of tenacious grind it out players (ie: the Red Sox) as San Fran showed in the NLCS and the World Series.

[redsoxrules]

Jon heyman

 

lee may leave up to $70 mil on table to sign with philly. if he gets it done with them, he will truly be able to say it wasnt about the $