New York Yankees Gameday Thread

[Divinity]

 

Remember who had the biggest choke in the history of baseball. Still laughing about that one.

 

You mean the same extact year your World Series MVP and ALCS MVP both tested postive for PED's? Plenty are still laughing about that one.

[yankees228]

You mean the same extact year your World Series MVP and ALCS MVP both tested postive for PED's? Plenty are still laughing about that one.

 

And the Yankees' second and third place hitters (in 2004) are in the same boat. Lets not go down this road.

[yankees228]

Javy looks like the April version of himself so far today. Poor velocity, flat breaking pitches, and poor command (wild in the strike zone, up in the zone)...

 

Hopefully he gets in a groove at some point today.

[yankees228]

Amazing that they can't get out Tommy Manzella.

[yankees228]

Hopefully, one of these days Joe will realize that he can't play Thames in the outfield. I'm not going to hold my breath.

[yankees228]

Cannot believe that carried out. They really haven't hit Rodriguez hard, but they made him pay for his walks and fielding mistake.

[jacksonianmarch]

Thames bat in the lineup is necessitated by Posada needing to DH. Once Posada is cleared to catch again, I dont think you will see Thames in the OF

[jacksonianmarch]

Jeter is on point tonight. Vazquez battled through initial shittiness to lock it down. He wasnt great, but he let the Astros beat themselves early in the count. Now, up 6, I let Javy start the 7th and see where he can go

[Dipre]

You mean the same extact year your World Series MVP and ALCS MVP both tested postive for PED's? Plenty are still laughing about that one.

 

Wait, but didn't your WS MVP test positive as well? You're not very smart there, DivinyFAIL.

[Dipre]

And the Yankees' second and third place hitters (in 2004) are in the same boat. Lets not go down this road.

 

And Divinity gets pwn3d by another Yankees fan. Delicious.

[jacksonianmarch]

Vazquez is flying under the radar here as a pretty nice turnaround. 7IP 3ER and another win. He's now over .500 at 6-5 and his ERA has slipped to 5.43 and his WHIP is a very respectable 1.33. I think he ends up having a pretty good season

[Dipre]

The Homeruns keep coming. Don't get those hopes up very much.

[jacksonianmarch]

The walks have come down, which is why he has halved his ERA since April. I know you desperately want to be right about him, but I think he settles down in the mid 4's and throws over 200IP like I predicted. Since his May 1st debachle, he has the following line...

 

6GS 39.2IP 25H 13ER 12BB 38K 2.94ERA 0.95WHIP. Those are dominant numbers. He's been solid since then.

 

Also, prior to that start, he allowed 8HR in 23IP. Since then, he has allowed 5HR in 39.2IP. That goes from 3.1 per 9IP to a more reasonable 1.1HR per 9IP.

[Dipre]

Lol "I want to desperately be right" while he sports an ERA in the mid 5's. Ok there Jacko.

[jacksonianmarch]

Wait, so now ERA is important? I thought it was all about peripherals and trends? Can you make up your mind?

[Dipre]

Nice strawman.

 

We discussed long and hard why Vasquez was the exception to the rule of good peripherals equal good results because of his inability to avoid giving up bombs and XBH.

 

What i find funny is that now you're claiming "HE'LL BE OK" after being the first to jump off the Vasquez boat. Lol.

[ORS]

The walks have come down, which is why he has halved his ERA since April. I know you desperately want to be right about him, but I think he settles down in the mid 4's and throws over 200IP like I predicted. Since his May 1st debachle, he has the following line...

 

6GS 39.2IP 25H 13ER 12BB 38K 2.94ERA 0.95WHIP. Those are dominant numbers. He's been solid since then.

 

Also, prior to that start, he allowed 8HR in 23IP. Since then, he has allowed 5HR in 39.2IP. That goes from 3.1 per 9IP to a more reasonable 1.1HR per 9IP.

Care to list the opponents there, or does that only matter when you are explaining success for the Sox and their players?

 

EDIT: Nevermind about the number of starts, I'm looking at the BB-Ref page, which doesn't include today's start.

[Dipre]

Care to list the opponents there, or does that only matter when you are explaining success for the Sox and their players?

 

And, it's been 5 GS, the other appearance was out of the BP.

 

His .274 BABIP, 1.77 HR/9 and 5.37 FIP are also unimportant.

[yankees228]

Wait' date=' but didn't your WS MVP test positive as well? You're not very smart there, DivinyFAIL.[/quote']

 

It has nothing to do with the actual argument (you know which side I'm on), but which Yankees' World Series MVP tested positive for steroids?

[ORS]

I'm guessing he meant Slappy and is forgetting that Pornocopia-san was the MVP.

[Dipre]

I'm guessing he meant Slappy and is forgetting that Pornocopia-san was the MVP.

 

Correct.

[jacksonianmarch]

Nice strawman.

 

We discussed long and hard why Vasquez was the exception to the rule of good peripherals equal good results because of his inability to avoid giving up bombs and XBH.

 

What i find funny is that now you're claiming "HE'LL BE OK" after being the first to jump off the Vasquez boat. Lol.

 

The only strawman is the one that you pass by working on the field. You tried, unsuccessfully, to prove something unproveable and wouldnt accept any other versions aside from your own (I know, shocking).

 

He started off the yr with down velocity and no control. He isnt a hard thrower anymore, but his recent history would show that he doesnt typically walk 6 batters per nine like he did through his first 5 starts. Ever since, the BB rate is down close to 3, and who would have thought, his numbers improved. But yeah, it must be the teams faced and the homer rate etc, etc, etc and luck of course. WHat else would I expect from you. Blinded by the rings I guess, you just have trouble analyzing the data.

[Dipre]

The only strawman is the one that you pass by working on the field. You tried, unsuccessfully, to prove something unproveable and wouldnt accept any other versions aside from your own (I know, shocking).

 

He started off the yr with down velocity and no control. He isnt a hard thrower anymore, but his recent history would show that he doesnt typically walk 6 batters per nine like he did through his first 5 starts. Ever since, the BB rate is down close to 3, and who would have thought, his numbers improved. But yeah, it must be the teams faced and the homer rate etc, etc, etc and luck of course. WHat else would I expect from you. Blinded by the rings I guess, you just have trouble analyzing the data.

 

1.77 HR/FB.

 

He has had a couple of good starts against s***** teams yet the homers keep coming. The toronto one is an encouraging sign, no doubt, but how about the Minessota one, where he gave up 5 ER (and of course, a HR) against a team with a good offense.

 

Talk smack when his ERA comes under 5.

 

Of course, you conveniently ignore both the BABIP and HR rate, but it's to be expected.

 

As i said before, the one who has trouble analyzing data is you, because of the magical pinstriped uniform.

 

Pertinent data:

 

FIP: 5.37

 

BABIP: .274

 

He's not unlucky, hell, he's been lucky.

 

HR/9: 1.77, as predicted,.

 

K/9: 8.36, right around career averages.

 

BB/9: 4.34, aberration.

 

But what happens when the BB's stop coming but the hits start falling in?

 

As you said yourself, this is a guy treading water with diminished stuff, but hey, let's see if the magical pinstripes help him along.

[jacksonianmarch]

The homers keep coming? At what rate?

 

First 5 starts- 8HR in 23IP

 

Last 6 starts- 5HR in 39.2IP

 

Does that mean they keep coming? Seriously, you are an idiot

[jacksonianmarch]

I never said he was unlucky, I said he was f***ing awful for the first 5 starts. He had less velocity, no bite on the slider and no control. Unless he loses his stuff again, his ERA is gonna drift back down to the mid 4's. Book it and you can eat a humongous pile of crow

[Dipre]

Boston pitcher: 5 bad starts, 3 good ones: "His stuff is still flat, let's wait until he faces a real offense and see if he can pull through it".

 

Yankees pitcher: 5 bad starts, 3 good ones: "All is good, no problems with his stuff, he's obviously bacK"

[jacksonianmarch]

so, when you run out of actual evidence, resort to claiming bias. I see.

[yankees228]

Hughes really has to stop throwing his cutter as much as he does. It was decent last year, out of the bullpen, but it's awful this year.

[Dipre]

so' date=' when you run out of actual evidence, resort to claiming bias. I see.[/quote']

 

You need any more evidence than the stats?

 

LOL, are you mentally challenged?

[yankees228]

They'll never do it, but the Yankees should start giving Jeter the red light on the bases (I'm assuming he always has the green light). He's not that fast anymore, and he attempts to steal bases at bad times.