Theo wants Felix Hernandez

[Gom]

I'm telling you, Felix Hernandez was born to pitch on the Red Sox.

 

He will be in our starting rotation before 2011.

 

You read it here first, folks.

 

He's Spanish. For that reason alone, I'd say he goes to the Mets.

[Mr Crunchy]

Theo wants Hernandez and I want to f*** Jessica Alba, we all got wants.

Hernandez is on this year and owned our asses but if theo didnt go all out for Roy Halliday he aint gettin all out on this guy and we aint getting a deal done via a waiverwire deal.

[BSN07]

Theo wants Hernandez and I want to f*** Jessica Alba, we all got wants.

Hernandez is on this year and owned our asses but if theo didnt go all out for Roy Halliday he aint gettin all out on this guy and we aint getting a deal done via a waiverwire deal.

 

It won't happen this season. Look for it to get interesting this off season though.

 

Felix is exactly the type of player/talent Theo will over pay for.

[WhiskeyBreath]

Theo wants Hernandez and I want to f*** Jessica Alba, we all got wants.

Hernandez is on this year and owned our asses but if theo didnt go all out for Roy Halliday he aint gettin all out on this guy and we aint getting a deal done via a waiverwire deal.

 

He just might. Felix is more valuable than Halladay so you never know.

[CrespoBlows]

He's Spanish. For that reason alone' date=' I'd say he goes to the Mets.[/quote']

 

ROFL

[Dojji]

ROFL

 

He is the kind of player Minaya likes. In his prime, hard throwing, expensive, with many innings on his arm.

[Dipre]

He's Spanish. For that reason alone' date=' I'd say he goes to the Mets.[/quote']

 

You mean spanish and arguably the pitcher with the best stuff in the Majors?

[BSN07]

LOL The Mets don't have the prospects. There system is thin.

[Dipre]

LOL The Mets don't have the prospects. There system is thin.

 

You're being generous.

 

Very generous.

[yankeessuck013]

Theo wants Hernandez and I want to f*** Jessica Alba, we all got wants.

Hernandez is on this year and owned our asses but if theo didnt go all out for Roy Halliday he aint gettin all out on this guy and we aint getting a deal done via a waiverwire deal.

 

Doc is 32, Felix is 23.

[jacksonianmarch]

Possible successor and heir to Josh Beckett.

 

Any reasonable price should be paid.

 

 

The Mariners wouldn't be as interested in Buchholz because what they want is 6 years of cost control on a high ceiling guy. And they're desperate for a decent 1B. Kelly and Anderson would be a good starting point from Seattle's perspective, I'm thinking. They'll want more, but those two will get you in the door. And I wouldn't worry about trading either of them because our core rotation would be young and excellent with Beckett, Hernandez, Lester, Daisuke, and Buchholz, and good pitching prospects come along with fair regularity, and if we lose Anderson, Youks still has a few good years and Rizzo's not that far behind.

 

For King Felix, it would be well more than Lars and Kelly. You might not have the pieces with Masterson and Hagadone gone. I am thinking Buchholz, Bowden, Kelly, and Anderson to start. It would be such a ridiculous package that I dont think it can be done.

[Dipre]

For King Felix' date=' it would be well more than Lars and Kelly. You might not have the pieces with Masterson and Hagadone gone. I am thinking Buchholz, Bowden, Kelly, and Anderson to start. It would be such a ridiculous package that I dont think it can be done.[/quote']

 

Thank you, Theo.

[Dojji]

You're kidding, right? Masterson and Hagadone were by no means our best trading chips. We have no shortage of desirable trade pieces between Buchholz, Bowden, Bard, Reddick, Kalish, Exposito, Anderson, Kelly, and Tazawa, and that's just high ceiling prime youngsters in AA or above.

 

that's 9 major trading pieces any of which could headline a banner deal and of those only 2 (Bard and Reddick) are in any way difficult to replace in this system..

[SoxSport]

Keep in mind that there aren't many teams out there willing to put up $15-20M per year for an ace starter. Maybe NY, maybe LA, maybe Chicago. The big markets. Boston? They seem to prefer home-growns.Though Beckett and Pap will soon be up for extension. Eventually, you have to pay the piper.

[jacksonianmarch]

You're kidding, right? Masterson and Hagadone were by no means our best trading chips. We have no shortage of desirable trade pieces between Buchholz, Bowden, Bard, Reddick, Kalish, Exposito, Anderson, Kelly, and Tazawa, and that's just high ceiling prime youngsters in AA or above.

 

that's 9 major trading pieces any of which could headline a banner deal and of those only 2 (Bard and Reddick) are in any way difficult to replace in this system..

 

we are talking about a generational talent at 23 yrs old who is just starting to locate franchise stuff. This is a guy who you need two can't miss prospects for. And I am sorry, but the sox dont have 2 can't miss guys right now who arent locked up. The Yankees dont either unless they deal from their current MLB team. If Seattle dealt Felix right now, the return would be dumbfounding.

[Dojji]

Keep in mind that there aren't many teams out there willing to put up $15-20M per year for an ace starter. Maybe NY' date=' maybe LA, maybe Chicago. The big markets. Boston? They seem to prefer home-growns.Though Beckett and Pap will soon be up for extension. Eventually, you have to pay the piper.[/quote']

 

To lose a guy you only need one.

[example1]

we are talking about a generational talent at 23 yrs old who is just starting to locate franchise stuff. This is a guy who you need two can't miss prospects for. And I am sorry' date=' but the sox dont have 2 can't miss guys right now who arent locked up. The Yankees dont either unless they deal from their current MLB team. If Seattle dealt Felix right now, the return would be dumbfounding.[/quote']

 

********. Theo will save his best prospects for exactly this kind of deal. Not Cliff Lee, not Roy Halladay (obviously). You really think Buchholz, Bard, Westmoreland and Anderson wouldn't get this deal done? Really? #2 starter, closer, Sizemore-potential OF, high ceiling 1B.

 

What nobody seems to be arguing is that Felix will resign with the Mariners or that he isn't very, very talented. It is as plain as night and day. Just as Josh Beckett had limitless potential with his build and arm, Felix is in the same camp and then some.

 

ERA+ Progression:

 

[table] age | IP | ERA | ERA + |

20 | 191.0 | 4.52 | 98 |

21 | 190.1 | 3.92 | 110 |

22 | 200.2 | 3.45 | 122 |

23 | 152 | 2.78 | 155 | [/table]

 

He's Josh Beckett with more command and better stuff at his age. He's been handled carefully and if the Sox can get him for 2 years or 1+ years then they can likely resign him to a huge contract. No need to negotiate, no need to compete with other teams. Teixeira-like deal and he couldn't possibly refuse it.

 

Theo has been willing to part with HUGE talent to get the guy he wants to build his franchise around. Felix is that guy. To get A-Rod he was willing to move Manny and Jon Lester (who they clearly thought was a very nice prospect). This might take more, but it would be more young talent, not current MLB players (except perhaps Bard).

[superdeluxe]

********. Theo will save his best prospects for exactly this kind of deal. Not Cliff Lee, not Roy Halladay (obviously). You really think Buchholz, Bard, Westmoreland and Anderson wouldn't get this deal done? Really? #2 starter, closer, Sizemore-potential OF, high ceiling 1B.

 

What nobody seems to be arguing is that Felix will resign with the Mariners or that he isn't very, very talented. It is as plain as night and day. Just as Josh Beckett had limitless potential with his build and arm, Felix is in the same camp and then some.

 

 

 

Theo has been willing to part with HUGE talent to get the guy he wants to build his franchise around. Felix is that guy. To get A-Rod he was willing to move Manny and Jon Lester (who they clearly thought was a very nice prospect). This might take more, but it would be more young talent, not current MLB players (except perhaps Bard).

 

One thing about this, the M's already have a lockdown closer that we control rights for several years, in Aardsma.

 

And this is not the bavasi era anymore. Jack Z likes to take back mlb ready/current players instead of just all prospects (Witness pitt/detroit trades).

[superdeluxe]

The Mariners should have made the first deal. They should have taken Bard, Buchholz, Bowden and Masterson. Plus somebody else on the list. I don't believe they nixed that deal. I doubt Epstein would have offered that much. Bard was off the table for obvious reasons.

 

That deal of VMart for Masterson was a steal for Epstein.

 

Really? a 86th, 98th prospect (baseball america top 100) and a #2-4 starter? Come on.

[TheKilo]

Aardsma a lock down closer? I stopped reading right there.

[Dipre]

Aardsma a lock down closer? I stopped reading right there.

 

You did the right thing, sir.

[superdeluxe]

Aardsma a lock down closer? I stopped reading right there.

 

25 out of 27 save opps, 1.56 era, I don't think we need a upgrade there.

[superdeluxe]

closers are a dime a dozen.

[TheKilo]

Fluke?

 

Believe me, Sox fans saw all they needed to of this guy last season.

[superdeluxe]

Fluke?

 

Believe me, Sox fans saw all they needed to of this guy last season.

 

Maybe fluke, maybe he has figured out his stuff? Who knows, I guess we will find out next year.

[superdeluxe]

Is Lowrie untouchable?

[Dipre]

Is Lowrie untouchable?

 

For the King?

 

No one's untouchable probably.

[superdeluxe]

Just in reading what M's fans want to get..and red sox fans want to give up..there seems to be a pretty big gap between those two. I am sure it will fall around somewhere in the middle.

[jacksonianmarch]

per mlbtraderumors.com the sox gave a list of 8-10 players to the M's and said they could have 5 of them. And that list had a ton of talent on it. The M's turned them down flat

[Cocos Disciples]

per mlbtraderumors.com the sox gave a list of 8-10 players to the M's and said they could have 5 of them. And that list had a ton of talent on it. The M's turned them down flat

 

Like 327 people have posted that.