Theo wants Felix Hernandez

[ManRam]

As we try to piece together a possible deal for Victor Martinez, we have learned the Red Sox were one of a handful of teams who inquired about Seattle ace Felix Hernandez. Evidently the talks didn't get too far, but the Mariners did entertain discussion on their superstar, a major league source said.

 

 

 

This interesting that the M's would even entertain the discussions. Although I guess it's because he's only under control for 2 more years until he gets a GIANT raise.

[Dipre]

This interesting that the M's would even entertain the discussions. Although I guess it's because he's only under control for 2 more years until he gets a GIANT raise.

 

Which we can obviously pay.

[TedWilliams101]

Which we can obviously pay.

 

You KNOW he'll be in pin stripes. JK... I hope!

[Dipre]

You KNOW he'll be in pin stripes. JK... I hope!

 

The man will be a Red Sox.

 

He was born to pitch on this team.

[example1]

The man will be a Red Sox.

 

He was born to pitch on this team.

 

They should be willing to pay well above value to get Felix Hernandez on the Sox roster.

 

If Theo could possibly do it before next year then Felix would have two seasons remaining under arbitration. Offer Seattle a huge package of talent for Felix then offer him a long deal in the area of 8 years/152m (a la Miguel Cabrera), and he'd be hard pressed not to take it and help anchor the rotation for years. That's 11m, 15m, 20m, 20m, 21m, 21m, 22m, 22m. At that point he would be 31.

 

The Red Sox can blow their prospects out of the water and get really, really good atheletes from the draft. They drafted a number of them this year who they should pay. Every one of those players is gold in trade situations; players who other teams coveted but who were too expensive in the context of a draft. In the context of acquiring a franchise player, $3m is nothing to the Sox.

[BSN07]

I'm all for making a huge package to send to Seattle for Felix. I think it can be done.

 

I wonder if the would take Dice-K in a deal with some prospects? lol

[Dipre]

I'm all for making a huge package to send to Seattle for Felix. I think it can be done.

 

I wonder if the would take Dice-K in a deal with some prospects? lol

 

If they trade Felix it's because they're in all-out rebuilding mode, so Dice-K wouldn't be attractive to them in the least.

[Dojji]

Possible successor and heir to Josh Beckett.

 

Any reasonable price should be paid.

 

 

The Mariners wouldn't be as interested in Buchholz because what they want is 6 years of cost control on a high ceiling guy. And they're desperate for a decent 1B. Kelly and Anderson would be a good starting point from Seattle's perspective, I'm thinking. They'll want more, but those two will get you in the door. And I wouldn't worry about trading either of them because our core rotation would be young and excellent with Beckett, Hernandez, Lester, Daisuke, and Buchholz, and good pitching prospects come along with fair regularity, and if we lose Anderson, Youks still has a few good years and Rizzo's not that far behind.

[Cocos Disciples]

Offseason. Make it happen.

[Dojji]

Looking at what I see as Seattle's specific needs, I can see a package of Casey Kelly, Lars Anderson, Michael Bowden, Yamaico Navarro and Luis Exposito to be much to their liking. From our perspective that's a high price but not really too much to pay to bring the King to Fenway.

[das11209]

Looking at what I see as Seattle's specific needs' date=' I can see a package of Casey Kelly, Lars Anderson, Michael Bowden, Yamaico Navarro and Luis Exposito to be much to their liking. From our perspective that's a high price but not really too much to pay to bring the King to Fenway.[/quote']

 

No thanks. That's something we will not give up for the Doc.The king is nothing compared to the Doc who is easily 1 of the best 3 pitchers in the game.

[schillingouttheks]

No thanks. That's something we will not give up for the Doc.The king is nothing compared to the Doc who is easily 1 of the best 3 pitchers in the game.

 

Felix Hernandez is 9 years younger than Doc. If he continues to improve his already elite level of pitching, he will be in Doc territory. You trade for Felix because he is the type of pitcher that you lock up for YEARS.

[Cocos Disciples]

Lol @ Hernandez is nothing compared to Halladay. He's a Cy contender and he's 23.

[Dojji]

You pay a legendary price for Felix. Which is probably why the Mariners are putting their heads together.

 

I would give up every player on this roster not named Lester or Pedroia for Hernandez.

[Dipre]

You pay a legendary price for Felix. Which is probably why the Mariners are putting their heads together.

 

I would give up every player on this roster not named Lester or Pedroia for Hernandez.

 

You're being unreasonable.

 

A) Seattle doesn't want high-priced veterans.

 

B ) We have a farm system to avoid giving up established talent in trades.

 

Your logic is faulty to the core.

[schillingouttheks]

You're being unreasonable.

 

A) Seattle doesn't want high-priced veterans.

 

B ) We have a farm system to avoid giving up established talent in trades.

 

Your logic is faulty to the core.

 

I think he was referring more to the fact that he would trade Bard, Papelbon, Buchholz, Reddick, etc.

[das11209]

You pay a legendary price for Felix. Which is probably why the Mariners are putting their heads together.

 

I would give up every player on this roster not named Lester or Pedroia for Hernandez.

 

I won't - he has shown great promises - but not the consistency to be compared to Doc Halladay yet.

[Dipre]

I think he was referring more to the fact that he would trade Bard' date=' Papelbon, Buchholz, Reddick, etc.[/quote']

 

Bucholz does not give 6 cost-controlled years, neither does Papelbon, who's already arb-elegible.

 

Again, the whole purpose of the system besides churning out players for the big club is trade fodder.

[Dipre]

I won't - he has shown great promises - but not the consistency to be compared to Doc Halladay yet.

 

Do not fight this battle.

 

You will lose. And be embarrassed.

 

Felix is a 23-year-old Cy Young contender.

 

Read it again slowly:

 

23. Cy. Contender.

 

We're talking about the SP with arguably the best stuff in the Majors, the poise to use it, and is dominating the AL.

[schillingouttheks]

Bucholz does not give 6 cost-controlled years, neither does Papelbon, who's already arb-elegible.

 

Again, the whole purpose of the system besides churning out players for the big club is trade fodder.

 

I know I know. I'm just saying that I don't think he was referring to the veterans, but to the other younger players on the big club. Whether or not Seattle is looking for those type of players in another thing. You can still be willing to trade some valuable pieces to your team without knowing whether or not the other team wants them.

 

For what it's worth, I'm on the same page as you are.

[Dojji]

You're being unreasonable.

 

A) Seattle doesn't want high-priced veterans.

 

B ) We have a farm system to avoid giving up established talent in trades.

 

Your logic is faulty to the core.

 

Sarcasm logged, noted and smiled at.

 

Everyone and anyone except the very, very best franchise players, if Seattle asks, Seattle gets.

 

This is why:

 

Beckett

Felix

Lester

(healthy) Daisuke

Buchholz.

 

I think anyone would agree with me when I say that I would be a very happy little boy if that became our rotation.

[Cocos Disciples]

We may have to trade Clay.

[schillingouttheks]

Do not fight this battle.

 

You will lose. And be embarrassed.

 

Felix is a 23-year-old Cy Young contender.

 

Read it again slowly:

 

23. Cy. Contender.

 

We're talking about the SP with arguably the best stuff in the Majors, the poise to use it, and is dominating the AL.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6194

 

lol

[Dipre]

Sarcasm logged, noted and smiled at.

 

Everyone and anyone except the very, very best franchise players, if Seattle asks, Seattle gets.

 

This is why:

 

Beckett

Felix

Lester

(healthy) Daisuke

Buchholz.

 

I think anyone would agree with me when I say that I would be a very happy little boy if that became our rotation.

 

I don't see the sarcasm.

 

I simply pointed out the fact that giving up members of the current roster is not needed to acquire Felix, and that most likely, there aren't many players from the active roster that Seattle may want and we would be willing to give up.

 

You need to look up the definition of sarcasm in the dictionary.

 

You're using it wrong.

[Dipre]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=6194

 

lol

 

Thing to note i hadn't realized:

 

The kid whose not near Halladay's level is taking him to school on almost every major statistical category.

 

And he actually leads the Doc in IP.

 

lolironylol.

[schillingouttheks]

Thing to note i hadn't realized:

 

The kid whose not near Halladay's level is taking him to school on almost every major statistical category.

 

And he actually leads the Doc in IP.

 

lolironylol.

 

I had the same realizations as you when I saw that page. If there was one category in which I would never have thought King Felix would have Doc beat, it would be IP. Well, he does. The "lol" I posted was completely necessary in that case.

[Dojji]

We may have to trade Clay.

 

Seattle is not going to be as interested in Clay as they would be an equivalent player with no MLB experience. They want top pitching prospects with full cost controls, not just as much talent as possible.

[Dojji]

I don't see the sarcasm.

 

I simply pointed out the fact that giving up members of the current roster is not needed to acquire Felix, and that most likely, there aren't many players from the active roster that Seattle may want and we would be willing to give up.

 

You need to look up the definition of sarcasm in the dictionary.

 

You're using it wrong.

 

 

That's funny, I would never have thought of putting you in the "doesn't get it" category. I thought you were just BSing with me because you got it and you wanted to be funny about it.

 

I really don't think that what I was saying is at all difficult to understand.

[Dipre]

I had the same realizations as you when I saw that page. If there was one category in which I would never have thought King Felix would have Doc beat' date=' it would be IP. Well, he does. The "lol" I posted was completely necessary in that case. [/quote']

 

Indeed, as soon as i saw it i went straight to IP, and i lol'ed. Hard.

[Dipre]

That's funny, I would never have thought of putting you in the "doesn't get it" category. I thought you were just BSing with me because you got it and you wanted to be funny about it.

 

I really don't think that what I was saying is at all difficult to understand.

 

The f***?

 

Well you're pretty left field, so excuse me for not taking everything you say with a grain of salt.

 

You've said weirder stuff.