Anti-Fantasy League Draft and Discussion Thread

[BoSox21]

no, its the fault of the tuff guy with Zac Efron's haircut

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Its jacko's fault.

[Dipre]

Its jacko's fault.

 

Everything is Jacko's fault.

[castigs850]

no' date=' its the fault of the tuff guy with Zac Efron's haircut[/quote']

 

agreeeed

[Dipre]

Zac Efron is a douchebag.

 

And anyone who emulates his haircut is a douchebag as well.

[castigs850]

awwww dipreg i thought we were getting close

 

http://static.pyzam.com/img/funnypics/animals/why%5B1%5D.jpg

[Dipre]

awwww dipreg i thought we were getting close

 

http://static.pyzam.com/img/funnypics/animals/why%5B1%5D.jpg

 

Lose the haircut.

[castigs850]

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/funny-pictures-come-to-the-dark-side-says-bald-cat.jpg

[Cocos Disciples]

Bump for J_E. You're up.

[msubulldogs21]

I'm pleased getting a quality pitcher like JA Happ this late. For one, he's pretty versatile being able to be a SP or RP. He's only 26 right now, and with this being his first full major league season he's doing a nice job. 0.98 WHIP as of right now.

[Cocos Disciples]

I'm a Stanton fan myself, I was excited that we almost got him for Manny last year before getting Bay. I like the pick.

 

And way to avoid the "This Mike Stanton?" jokes by using his whole name and position. Jerk.

[Jacoby_Ellsbury]

Well s***, I thought Stanton was already gone when I picked. I was too lazy to check, of course.

[Dojji]

Downs has been solid in the bullpen since '07 after shifting there from the rotation. When I saw him in action his stuff seemed to be good and his WHIP has been declining steadily. He's had some closing experience this year and it's treating him well. Between him and Delcarmen that's a nice core to get a bullpen started. I have no doubt that Downs could sub in for what Ramon Ramirez is doing alongside MDC if I find another closer type later in the draft.

[BSN07]

I took Luke Hochevar. I think my MO has been established. I know he has struggled early on in the Majors. But his minor league numbers are very good.

[Dipre]

Took a KC man myself, completing my starting staff with Gil Meche, who's probably one the best #5's in the AF league.

[Cocos Disciples]

I agree, especially since we don't include salaries in our league. He's good for around a 4 or below ERA and around a 1.3-1.4 WHIP. Good value for a 5.

[BoSox21]

I took JP Howell as my setup man. He's been infinitely more valuable as a reliever the last two years, is still very young and has a stellar 11.2 K/9 this season

[Dipre]

I agree' date=' especially since we don't include salaries in our league. He's good for around a 4 or below ERA and around a 1.3-1.4 WHIP. Good value for a 5.[/quote']

 

The thing with Meche is that he's really streaky for unexplainable reasons.

 

But when he's on..........

[Dojji]

Imagine what Meche could do in front of an average or better defense.

[Dojji]

Took a KC man myself' date=' completing my starting staff with Gil Meche, who's probably one the best #5's in the AF league.[/quote']

 

Meche tempted me a couple times too, but his streakiness kept me away.

 

Anywho, I'll match David Bush up against Gil Meche anyday, his years in KC notwithstanding.

[Dipre]

Imagine what Meche could do in front of an average or better defense.

 

That was my thinking when picking him actually.

 

Consider my infield is comprised of Adrian Gonzales, Orlando Hudson, Jason Bartlett and Ryan Zimmerman.

 

Those are the 4 main ingredients in the recipe for defensive awesome.

[Dipre]

Meche tempted me a couple times too, but his streakiness kept me away.

 

Anywho, I'll match David Bush up against Gil Meche anyday, his years in KC notwithstanding.

 

lolok.

[Dojji]

I mean it. Sure, Meche has his two good years in KC but over their careers these two are about equal. Also, Meche has no standout attributes as a pitcher, since he's neither a true strikeout pitcher, nor a contact pitcher, nor does he exhibit excellent command. Bush at least keeps the baserunners down.

 

What Meche has going for him, and this isn't really a small thing, is that he is very durable and seems to be an intelligent pitcher. But again, even with the KC performance I wouldn't worry too much matching him up against Bush with all else equal.

[BoSox21]

Anywho' date=' I'll match David Bush up against Gil Meche anyday, his years in KC notwithstanding.[/quote']

 

His years with the team he's currently spending his prime years with?

[Dipre]

I mean it. Sure' date=' Meche has his two good years in KC but over their careers these two are about equal. Also, [b']Meche has no standout tools[/b], while Bush has superior command going for him. And what I said about KC's defense applies to Milwaukee as well.

 

You mean besides much, much better stuff than Bush, a stronger GB/FB ratio, and a better K/9 ratio?

 

Those seem like some semblance of standout tools to me.

[Dojji]

Meh. "Stuff" is more than fastball velocity. I'll take Bush's WHIP given the choice.

 

As for K/9, Bush is at 6.1 and Meche is at 6.6 for their careers. Not exactly an earth-shattering difference.

[BoSox21]

all that doesn't even take into account Meche pitches in the AL, Bush pitches in the NL

[Dojji]

all that doesn't even take into account Meche pitches in the AL' date=' Bush pitches in the NL[/quote']

 

That distinction is seriously overblown. NL teams are actually on par offensively with AL teams this year as a group.

 

The compensating factor for the lack of the DH is as follows: Name me 3 really good offensive shortstops in the American League. Good OBP guys, power hitters, what have you. Go on. I'm waiting.

 

The list gets really small after Jeter, doesn't it? Especially after Michael Young and Johnny Peralta moved to third base. That list in the National League is NOT small. You could meet my challenge very, very easily in the National League East alone.

 

The fact is that the National League compensates for its offensive shortcomings by crowding offense into the up the middle positions while the bulk of American League teams seem to take the offense as it comes at middle infield. The net offensive difference is negligible and any disadvantage the NL has is more about their big market teams not dominating their divisions like the Sox and Yankees (and to a much lesser extent the Angels who are in playoff contention as often as not) do in the American League

[Dipre]

That distinction is seriously overblown. NL teams are actually on par offensively with AL teams this year as a group.

 

The compensating factor for the lack of the DH is as follows: Name me 3 really good offensive shortstops in the American League. Good OBP guys, power hitters, what have you. Go on. I'm waiting.

 

The list gets really small after Jeter, doesn't it? Especially after Michael Young and Johnny Peralta moved to third base. That list in the National League is NOT small. You could meet my challenge very, very easily in the National League East alone.

 

The fact is that the National League compensates for its offensive shortcomings by crowding offense into the up the middle positions while the bulk of American League teams seem to take the offense as it comes at middle infield. The net offensive difference is negligible and any disadvantage the NL has is more about their big market teams not dominating their divisions like the Sox and Yankees (and to a much lesser extent the Angels who are in playoff contention as often as not) do in the American League

 

Lol Nl central Pittsburgh, injured Cubs.

 

Lol Nl west (everyone except Dodgers)

 

Lol Nl East (Braves, Natinals).

 

Lol NL= Pitchers hit.

 

Yea broke it down in 3rd grade language there for you.

 

Maybe that way you'll understand.

[Dojji]

Lol Nl central Pittsburgh, injured Cubs.

 

Lol Nl west (everyone except Dodgers)

 

Lol Nl East (Braves, Natinals).

 

Lol NL= Pitchers hit.

 

Yea broke it down in 3rd grade language there for you.

 

Maybe that way you'll understand.

 

Because the AL Central and Western divisions are anything but a joke this year. There's three winning teams in the American League west of Toronto.

 

Do you make up your own material or do you get your mommy to help you with the hard math?

 

The National League has Pujols, Hanley, Howard, Fielder, Braun, and Adrian Gonzalez.

 

The American League? Has A-Rod and Morneau.

 

I'd say that the fact that nearly every truly great hitter hits in the National League is reasonable compensation for the fact that pitchers hit.

 

I could go right down the list of position players and show you that the best hitter in nearly every position is a National League player.