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Good. Then define 'clutch' as 'performing normally in situations defined as clutch.' Again, show me the stats. If that's all clutch means: not 'choking' in key situations, ok, fine. But again, what are the stats to prove this? I assume Manny and Papi would do that. But we're not talking about the eye-test or memories of the heroics of Uncle George. Shouldn't those stats be obvious and easily obtainable? Surely more than dWAR or CERA or launch angle or all the other incomprehensible things that get talked about here as if they weren't in the least bit problematic.

Wait. Uncle George swears it was a 98mph slider on the outside corner!

It doesn't matter who you BELIEVE is clutch or not. I just want to see the simple statistic. Did Brady, Papi, Schilling perform better in clutch situations than they did in other situations? Show me the math.

Clutch, if it exists, is absurdly easy to document. And anyone with minimal statistical skills can do it, and end this debate. 1) Define a clutch situation (doesn't need to be all that precise). 2) Are there players over a long span (50 games? a year?) who do better than others in these situations? (of course) 3) Do those players do as well (or better) in those situations than they do in other situations? 4) Are these results the same for other 50-game or season-long spans? (That's the important part.) Make a nice, detailed chart of teh results and post them here. (You know, there are people who actually do such things.) Then we have a basis for discussion, rather than referring to our Uncle George who once hit a rocket to left-center in his high-school semi-finals for teh league championship on an 0-2 count.

In other words, he knows how to screw his employees. I'll bet that goes over really well in the clubhouse.

Ha! I assure you, that in all his endeavors (violence not being one of them), that dog is undefeated.

and the reason I'm not a HOF baseball player is because I just didn't want it enough.

But then, don't forget, it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's ... Hmm. Actually the big dog almost always wins.

Whoever came up with that truism was completely wrong.

Why aren't fans packing the stadiums to see the 2023 dWAR race? They obviously know nothing about baseball. I've always liked Wong for some reason. Maybe because his pitchers have less chance of being busted for having sticky stuff on their hands.

It would help to have a 2b who can make a routine tag.

Terrible ABs by Duran and Casas (Casas seems like that Little Leaguer always going up there for a walk).

Oh God Youk STFU!!!!

devers did not 'take less to stay home.' He took guaranteed money THIS year rather than speculate about what he might have made next year.

So you would pass up $300million guaranteed in hopes of getting 10% more? knowing that one blown out knee would mean you get nothing?

But at least Bergeron didn't get a penalty shot in the overtime, wind up just inside the blue line, and hit a pop-up.

Wow. You hit better when your timing isn't off??? Thank you, Youk. Who would have guessed?

Ha! The last RS game I went to was the day game of a D/N double=header. I assured my friend that if they couldn't play the afternoon game, no worries, they would cancel it. Instead, they cancelled the night game. I sat there in full foul-weather gear for between 5 and 6 hours before the start. The only consolation was that everyone else was more miserable than I was.

Yeah, I see that. But it's a narrow window and we're getting inundated in Maine as they are west and south of Boston. I'm betting against this getting in.

Uh oh. Brasier-ball again.

OMG Youk again, just in case you wanted to know: that this guy has a fastball 95-97 which is faster than say 92-93 which some guys have but you have to consider location too as a pitch outside might be a ball and if you throw four of those and the hitter doesn't swing that's a walk which helps OPS whereas a guy throwing only 92 may have better location and that's important but some of these guys don't always throw strikes enough but some guys in triple-A may have the velocity but not the location and it's important not to throw everything right down the middle because major league hitters can hit that pitch better than AAA players but you have to consider some guys hit inside pitches not all though because some guys like the low ball which means the split is a problem because it's low and breaks down sometimes but a good hitter can keep an eye on it but you know maybe won't swing unless there are two strikes because with two strikes you could strike out but with only 1 or none you really don't have to swing because that's only ball 2 or 3 and it takes four of those to draw a walk but a walk isn't as good as a hit, but it might be because ... I'll be listening to Joe.

Youk in the booth (because you need to know that when the pitch is outside you can hit it but if it's a ball you might let it go unless you can foul it off but that's easier with one strike with two you should be selective and you can't barrel it up but maybe if it's in the zone it's easier and the good hitters like to hit good pitches but walking is good too like if it's 3-1 count you can get ball 4 which you can't do on a 2-1 so you have to consider that but some pitchers are better than others and you might hit well against them unless the sun isn't good which is also a factor but ... [repeat, with variations]) That's why I don't watch. At least during away games I can watch the local feed.

Yup. All Bloom/Henry cared about was that he was cheaper than Bogey.

But just think of how the value of the team would have plummeted had they kept Mookie and Bogey!

Nope. Win games. That's what you get paid to do as athletes. I'd much rather follow a .500 team that is trying to get to .501 than a .300 team bent on losing.