Bellhorn04
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The Sox didn't have to "foresee" anything. Nobody can "foresee" anything, especially when it comes to the health and performance of baseball pitchers. "Nobody could have seen this coming" is a classic straw man argument.
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So what are you saying, Atlanta made this trade just for funsies, basically? Sale was healthy at the end of 2023, that's the big thing. And past injuries are not necessarily predictive of future injuries. I think that's actually a medical fact.
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It's a fair question, but any answer that anyone gives now is naturally biased by hindsight, by the knowledge that Price didn't have much left. One thing I will always remember is that Kimmi didn't like them trading Price. And no one was more against mega contracts than Kimmi. But she thought it made no sense at the time to move starting pitching. My guess is that Kimmi didn't like the Sale-Grissom trade either, for the same reason. Kimmi come back!
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I don't think any of us actually disagree with you on this.
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I don't think anyone is saying it isn't stupid. We're just trying to think like the Sox owners and brain trust are thinking. That probably does make us stupid, admittedly.
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I think the premise is that the Fab Four will really be ready in 2026. Then the team will be in window and will be compelled to improve the pitching.
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Amen, brother. I've never understood complaints about wins. All wins are good. The only "downer" wins are the ones when players get injured. -
Personally I don't think this trade can be chalked up to bad luck. When a team desperately in need of starting pitching trades a starting pitcher, even an injury-prone one, it's a move that's open to question. Breslow knew there was a reasonable chance Sale would have a decent 2024 (no one in their right mind could have foreseen just how good Sale's 2024 would be). If there was no chance, why in the heck would Atlanta want him? Why would they work out a deal with him giving them 3 years control over him? The Grissom part is bad luck, so far at least. But the Sale part was not bad luck. It was a questionable decision that blew up.
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Good call. Price was on a Hall of Fame track until crashing to a halt after joining us.
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I'm sure they can compete again next year just like they're doing this year.
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Sam Kennedy is already working on how to tell us they need to kick the can down the road just one more time.
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Way more in fact. We're blowing everyone away.
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mvp78 is the Official TalkSox Historian. He has all the dirt.
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Only when the unloaded asset performs elsewhere. We are very fair and consistent on that point. 😎
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Click on the triple dot thingy in the upper right corner of the posting box.
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What a crazy freaking game. And he might get lit up the rest of the way and no one will be shocked.
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This franchise has really acquired too much of a taste for acquiring damaged and distressed assets.
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Hosmer really was the poster boy for Red's Third Fork in the Road LOL...
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No, I just saw an opening for a bit of sardonic humor, to be perfectly honest...
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Hopefully Craig used up a lot of his bad luck this year. Yikes!
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It's reaching the point that if your problem is pitching injuries, you really need another sport to follow...
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Am I the only one who thinks a lot of injuries are just crap luck? Hell, even Mookie has had multiple injuries with the Dodgers. Obviously, some players have the dreaded "recurring" injury to the same body part. Vaughn Grissom had a recurring hamstring injury this year. Should we write him off? Maybe we could have a thread on the whole concept of "injury-prone".
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Don't quote me so fast, man! I deleted that post when I saw Pham was already mentioned LOL It's my recollection that most of the criticism about the Vaz trade was the PR part - how he found out about it.
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Francis flirted with a no-hitter in his last start and threw 117 pitches, by far his high for the year. They've been shuttling him back and forth between rotation and pen. So he might be on a reduced pitch count for this one.
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There's never really been anything wrong with a dedicated DH. If Yoshida can post an .825 OPS or thereabouts, he's probably worth the $18 million.
