2025 Prospects

[moonslav59]

On 4/25/2025 at 5:28 PM, mvp 78 said:

Sandlin is not a starter. Overhyped IMO. Early, Dobbins, Fitts are better prospects. Paez may be a better starter profile too.

I agree on Sandlin as a RP'ers, but think he could be a real good one.

Valera has started slowly, while Clarke could be the new "darling."

Small sample sizes, but it's interesting to see Dobbins doing way better in MLB than in AAA.

Mullins and Aita are off to a nice starts.

Has Drohan gotten himself back into consideration?

[moonslav59]

Some selected Sox pitching prospects and their OPS Against numbers:

.489 Drohan (second most IP in farm system)

.489 Steven Brooks A-

.526 Mullins A+

.636 Uberstine AA

.645 Ingrassia A+

.673 Aita A-

.688 Vogatsky A-

.703 Sandlin AA

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[moonslav59]

Lots of runs scored against Woo, today. They lost game one 6-5. Wong played and went 2-4. Mayer went 1-4 w 2 rbi. Grissom 1-3 w BB. They are losing game two 20-11 in the last inning. Kelly was the opener and allowed 8 runs while getting just one out. Mayer homered, doubled &  walked and had 4 rbi. Grissom 2-4 w BB but had 3 errors (5 on the season.)  Eaton is 4-5 w two 2Bs. Hickey had 3 hits and Toro had 2 hits.

GRE won 6-1 as Tolle looked great: 4 IP 1 H 1BB 9Ks our of 12 outs. Rogers went 5 allowing 3H, 1ER, 2BB and 7 Ks. (16Ks in 9 IP total!) Bleis hit two dingers to bring his OPS up to .775. The team had 7 hits and 11 BBs!

SAL won 19-1 on 13 hits and 9 BBs! Anderson went 3-5 w HR & BB. Asencio 2-5 w HR & BB, Nunez 2-5 w BB.

Some stats got padded, today!

[Larry Cook]

Mayer is hot after a slow start. Atlanta could really use a shortstop!!!!!  
is this an opportunity for bres-slow???

[mvp 78]

21 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

I agree on Sandlin as a RP'ers, but think he could be a real good one.

Valera has started slowly, while Clarke could be the new "darling."

Small sample sizes, but it's interesting to see Dobbins doing way better in MLB than in AAA.

Mullins and Aita are off to a nice starts.

Has Drohan gotten himself back into consideration?

Clarke just shouldn't be in Low A. His stuff is too overpowering for that level and I'm not sure he can learn anything there.

Aita's last 3 starts weren't as dominant as the first one, we'll see what the rest of his season looks like. He should get to AAA without a problem considering his pitch mix and spin rate.

I don't know if they can turn Drohan into a starter again, but if he can be a reliever that goes 2 innings like Whitlock it has a ton of value. I haven't actually watched him pitch yet, so all I have seen are clips and the stats. 

[mvp 78]

 

[moonslav59]

On 4/28/2025 at 8:30 AM, mvp 78 said:

I don't know if they can turn Drohan into a starter again, but if he can be a reliever that goes 2 innings like Whitlock it has a ton of value. I haven't actually watched him pitch yet, so all I have seen are clips and the stats. 

He has started, this year with WOO, and his numbers look good, but who knows if that would work in MLB.

You are likely right: he'd have a better chance at making it in a role like Whitlock's or a lower leverage type role.

[Larry Cook]

Liendo at Portland is now hitting .377 and 8 for 8 on the season in stolen bases!!!!

Romero with his third tater. 
 

Garcia with the outfield assist!!!! 
 

t Miller with his 5th tater!!!! 

[Larry Cook]

At Greenville. Arias was zero for 4. Alcanterra and zanetello hit their first taters of the year. 
Yophary with two hits!

[Larry Cook]

At Salem. Judice with a miserable outing. Ugly!!!

at Worcester. Eaton with a tater. 

[mvp 78]

Tyler Miller will be the perfect WOO 1b for a few years. 

[mvp 78]

15 hours ago, Larry Cook said:

At Salem. Judice with a miserable outing. Ugly!!!

Judice hasn't been good coming back from injury. 

2.1 IP, 1 K, 3 H, 11 BB

That's a 43 bb/9. 🥸

[mvp 78]

On Liendo, he's always had a substantial split that favored his RH swing against LHP. He's apparently given up being a switch hitter and now that split is gone and has hit better against RHP (small sample of course). Will need to monitor going forward.  

[mvp 78]

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=allmer000jay

6'6" RHP reliever who pitched at UNC Asheville and Seton Hall. Per IG, he has worked on increasing his velo from 91 to 97. 

[moonslav59]

Monegro went 3.2 IP allowing 5H, 1ER, 0BB and 7Ks in the 3-2 loss by POR.

Romero had 2 of the team's 3 hitsn(.944,) while Jh Garcia has one w a BB (.907.)

[moonslav59]

Woo outhit Toledo 8-4 but lost 2-1. Wink did okay, but not much else to report.

POR is up 3-1 after winning game one 3-2. Romero and Jh Garcia are getting things done, today.

GRE is down 6-5, late, but not because of Clarke: 4.2 1H 0ER 0BB 7K

SAL up 4-3, late, as Cohen has pitched a gem in relied: 5.1 IP, 1H, 0ER, 1BB, 3K. de Lon homered.

[Larry Cook]

2 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Monegro went 3.2 IP allowing 5H, 1ER, 0BB and 7Ks in the 3-2 loss by POR.

Romero had 2 of the team's 3 hitsn(.944,) while Jh Garcia has one w a BB (.907.)

Monegro picked off a runner!!! 

[mvp 78]

Starting Pitchers today:

Drohan

Mullins

Valera

Adams

Aita

That's a good group of starters to follow this afternoon/tonight.

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

Starting Pitchers today:

Drohan

Mullins

Valera

Adams

Aita

That's a good group of starters to follow this afternoon/tonight.

That does look nice.

I'm liking someone almost every night, except no game Mondays.

AAA has Dobbins, Drohan and Criswell (Stock, Wink and maybe Fitts, at some point.)

AA: Early, Monegro, Mullins & Sandlin (Bolden, Wehunt, Uberstine)

A+: Clarke, Valera, Tolle, Dean & Rogers (Rivera)

A-: Aita, Ehrlicher, Hansen (Sprague)

FCL: Cason, Reyes, Fajardo

 

[moonslav59]

Some Farm OPS:
Woo

.987 Rosier

.963 Anthony

.909 Toro

.845 Eaton

.844 Mayer

.837 Grissom

(.879 Grandal is small sample size)

POR

.930 Jh Garcia

.925 Romero

.897 Liendo

.869 T Miller

GRE

.860 Alcantara

.830 Bleis

.807 A Lugo

.800 Ehrhard

.777 Taylor, .762 Y Rod

SAL

.927 A Anderson

.804 Arias (in GRE, no)

.781 Encarnacion, .776 Asencio

OPS Against w 13+ IP

.234 Clarke A-/A+

.439 Burdi AAA

.445 McShane A-

.463 Early AA

.481 Mills AAA

.489 Drohan AAA & BRooks A-

.499 Cohen A-

.526 Mullins A+

.550 Stock AAA

.583 Sansone A-

.636 Uberstine AA

.640 Van Belle AAA

.645 Ingrassia A+

.662 Carlson A+

.673 Aita A-

.703 Sandlin AA

 

 

[mvp 78]

Bleis was hittig 574 on 4/23 and then had a 4 game hit streak that brought him up to 829 (7H, 2 2B, 2 HR, .750 BABIP, 7 K's, 2 BB's)

How about:

Blaze Jordan 644 OPS (3rd year in POR)

Natanael Yuten 577 OPS (repeating SAL)

Yoeilin Cespedes 563

Thompson 689 (how can we leave him off Opening Day Roster?!?!?!)

Pitchers:

Zack Kelly 1202 (AAA)

Sikes 1030 (3 appearances as a pitcher? Is he two way now?)

 

 

 

 

 

[moonslav59]

5 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Bleis was hittig 574 on 4/23 and then had a 4 game hit streak that brought him up to 829 (7H, 2 2B, 2 HR, .750 BABIP, 7 K's, 2 BB's)

How about:

Blaze Jordan 644 OPS (3rd year in POR)

Natanael Yuten 577 OPS (repeating SAL)

Yoeilin Cespedes 563

Thompson 689 (how can we leave him off Opening Day Roster?!?!?!)

Pitchers:

Zack Kelly 1202 (AAA)

Sikes 1030 (3 appearances as a pitcher? Is he two way now?)

Time to cut ties with Blaze.

Cespedes may come around.

Bleis need to get something prolonged going, or he will drop quickly in the rankings. Who knows, sp's keeps Castro up way too high.

[Larry Cook]

8 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Time to cut ties with Blaze.

Cespedes may come around.

Bleis need to get something prolonged going, or he will drop quickly in the rankings. Who knows, sp's keeps Castro up way too high.

I think blaze struggles with pitch recognition, I hope the lightbulb goes on for him. 

[mvp 78]

6 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Time to cut ties with Blaze.

Cespedes may come around.

Bleis need to get something prolonged going, or he will drop quickly in the rankings. Who knows, sp's keeps Castro up way too high.

I think their thinking on Castro is that he's still only going to turn 22 this season and did OPS 800+ in GRE. Maybe he's able to do the same as he climbs the ladder? He did tap into more power last season. I don't hold out a lot of hope, but his scouting report is "above average raw power." 

Bleis has already dropped in most rankings to the teens. He has really struggled (production and health) ever since the start of '23. I think they clearly hyped him a little too much.

I think Cespedes probably needs to be around where SP ranks Bleis mainly because he doesn't have a true defensive home. He'll have time to mature offensively, but I don't think he's ever going to get to even average defensively at any position.

I was hoping that Blaze would get to AAA at some point and have a few years in WOO for fans to cheer him on before he goes elsewhere for a cup of coffee. We might not get that. 

[moonslav59]

3 hours ago, mvp 78 said:

I think their thinking on Castro is that he's still only going to turn 22 this season and did OPS 800+ in GRE. Maybe he's able to do the same as he climbs the ladder? He did tap into more power last season. I don't hold out a lot of hope, but his scouting report is "above average raw power." 

Bleis has already dropped in most rankings to the teens. He has really struggled (production and health) ever since the start of '23. I think they clearly hyped him a little too much.

I think Cespedes probably needs to be around where SP ranks Bleis mainly because he doesn't have a true defensive home. He'll have time to mature offensively, but I don't think he's ever going to get to even average defensively at any position.

I was hoping that Blaze would get to AAA at some point and have a few years in WOO for fans to cheer him on before he goes elsewhere for a cup of coffee. We might not get that. 

Good stuff. I always appreciate your opinions on our farm players.

I'm more pumped up on Jh Garcia, and I started out pretty high on him.

Is the sample size too small to start second-guessing on Valera?

SP was very high on Drohan, before- up to 6th mid '23, and I wonder if maybe they weren't really too high on him. He looks for real, so far.

[moonslav59]

The Sox farm went 4-1, tonight, including a completion game.

Woo won 7-1 as Wong homered. Drohan finally got touched up, a bit, but got the win. I Campbell with the save. The offense got 7 hits and 9 BBs! Sogard 2-3 w 2BBs.

POR won 5-3 in 10. Mullins K'd 10 in 5.2, but he walked 4 and let up 3 hits (1ER). Anderson got the win going 3.1 while allowing 1 run. Romero 2-4, Jh Garcia 1-4 w BB and Rosario 2-5.

GRE lost the completion game but won the full game 5-3. Valera went 4.1, 5H, 2ER, 1BB, 4K. McShane continued to shine by going 2.2 of scoreless pitching. Y Rod 2-3 w HR and BB. Lugo also homered, and Taylor went 3-3 w BB.

Salem won 5-4, but allowed 4 in the 9th. Aita looked great. He allowed just 1 hit and no BBs. (7 Ks) Anderson homered and went 2-4 w BB. Cespedes went 3-5.

 

[mvp 78]

13 hours ago, moonslav59 said:

Good stuff. I always appreciate your opinions on our farm players.

I'm more pumped up on Jh Garcia, and I started out pretty high on him.

Is the sample size too small to start second-guessing on Valera?

SP was very high on Drohan, before- up to 6th mid '23, and I wonder if maybe they weren't really too high on him. He looks for real, so far.

Valera is still VERY young for his league. I don't think you have to worry about his numbers. You can even go back and look at Perales's game logs as he moved up the ladder and see his struggles. 

Drohan just couldn't find the k zone once he was promoted to AAA. He was then taken in the Rule 5 draft and I believe got injured and had a lost season. He's now back and trying to reclaim his value. I don't know what his ceiling is, but he could work himself into a bullpen role. IDK. 

[mvp 78]

Yesterday, Valera had 69 pitches, 48 strikes and 13 whiffs. As an 18 year old in High A, it's pretty good. 

Per bref, Valera is 4.2 years younger than the weighted average of all players in that league. 

[moonslav59]

23 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

Yesterday, Valera had 69 pitches, 48 strikes and 13 whiffs. As an 18 year old in High A, it's pretty good. 

Per bref, Valera is 4.2 years younger than the weighted average of all players in that league. 

Good to know. I knew he was young, but not that much younger than those he pitches to.

[mvp 78]

48 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Good to know. I knew he was young, but not that much younger than those he pitches to.

The two teenagers on GRE offensively are Arias and Yophery (high ceiling prospects). The pitchers in the league are generally much older, which is why you get the big variance for Valera. The next youngest pitcher on GRE is Paez at 21, almost 2.5 years older than Valera.