3/30 @ Seattle

[notin]

If Joely and Slaten suck, that's on the front office, IMHO. Brernardino probably should have gotten the nod over Joely. Not sure what Joely has done to impress them. In ST games he gave up 11 hits and 4 walks in 8 innings.

 

I imagine Joely was kept over Bernardino because the latter had options. (Joely was on a minor league deal, but with an upward mobility clause.)

 

The big problem was the Sox pushed two relievers into the pen and only signed one reliever to replace them, and that was Joely. They ignored plenty of better options on the market. This is basically the exact same thing Bloom did last year…

[notin]

I don’t believe in burning your best available BP guy to turn the ball over to slugs. That is why the best BP guy is your closer.

 

The backend of this bullpen is full of question marks (although technically Joely is an exclamation point after an expletive). Pitchers like Rodriguez and Weissert are depth option buried at the bottom of the 40 whose position on their Topps Card should read “In Case of Emergency”, not players on the roster on opening day…

[Bellhorn04]

I imagine Joely was kept over Bernardino because the latter had options. (Joely was on a minor league deal, but with an upward mobility clause.)

 

The big problem was the Sox pushed two relievers into the pen and only signed one reliever to replace them, and that was Joely. They ignored plenty of better options on the market. This is basically the exact same thing Bloom did last year…

 

A case of rinse and repeat.

[Jasonbay44]

If Joely and Slaten suck, that's on the front office, IMHO. Brernardino probably should have gotten the nod over Joely. Not sure what Joely has done to impress them. In ST games he gave up 11 hits and 4 walks in 8 innings.

 

This is also an issue. Cora shouldn’t even have the option to put Joely into the game. There is 0 reason he should be on the team. He is awful.

[cukes]

So he brings in Joely Rodriguez, a bum, and warms up a guy with a career 5 ERA in the minors to replace Joely, and then decides to pitch to one of the best players on the planet with a base open?

 

Absolute master class of stupidity

 

Typical, DeJaVu all over again

[Larry Cook]

When can we bring back berdino and send joely back to wal mart

[Maxbialystock]

Cora lost the game last night. His fascination to put his worst arm in high leverage situations continuous. Also, this staff is already thin with zero depth (plus Devers unavailable) and you sit O’Neill who is kind of hot “to rest him” and put Abreu instead who sucks in the OF in the 3rd game of the season is simply ridiculous to say the least.

 

Last night reflects your 2024 Boston Red Sox Baseball moving forward. Thin and limited staff and poor management.

 

Cora didn't lose the game last night, not even close. Reyes made the error to bring in the first run and Abreu the error that definitely contributed to the 3d run because it allowed the runner on 1b to get to 3b. Without Abreu's error, Mariners on 1st and 2b when the next guy hits the grounder for a very likely GIDP and a win.

 

As I've said before, these game threads are infested with idiots who don't know diddly about managing a baseball team.

 

Did I forget to mention that Cora sent McGuire in to pinch hit for Wong and that McGuire doubled?

[moonslav59]

Let's not forget how the defense hurt our chances at winning, last night, too. (There were also some cheesy hits, but that is all part of the game.)

 

1st inning

Bunt single to Reyes & bad throw moves runner to 2B

Ground ball single scores an unearned run.

 

10th inning

Bloop single down LF line

Line drive single to RF- runner advance to 3B on throwing error.

Line drive single scores winning run from 3B. (Not sure if runner scores from 2B on that hit.)

 

I will say, some of us look correct when we wondered why Bernardino did not make the 26 over Joely.

[moonslav59]

Cora didn't lose the game last night, not even close. Reyes made the error to bring in the first run and Abreu the error that definitely contributed to the 3d run because it allowed the runner on 1b to get to 3b. Without Abreu's error, Mariners on 1st and 2b when the next guy hits the grounder for a very likely GIDP and a win.

 

As I've said before, these game threads are infested with idiots who don't know diddly about managing a baseball team.

 

Did I forget to mention that Cora sent McGuire in to pinch hit for Wong and that McGuire doubled?

 

Don't forget the caught stealing by Reyes before that double.

[dgalehouse]

Once again we see that " Closing ain't easy."

[a700hitter]

Cora didn't lose the game last night, not even close. Reyes made the error to bring in the first run and Abreu the error that definitely contributed to the 3d run because it allowed the runner on 1b to get to 3b. Without Abreu's error, Mariners on 1st and 2b when the next guy hits the grounder for a very likely GIDP and a win.

 

As I've said before, these game threads are infested with idiots who don't know diddly about managing a baseball team.

 

Did I forget to mention that Cora sent McGuire in to pinch hit for Wong and that McGuire doubled?

everyone with a different opinion from you is an idiot. Are you a politician?

[Maxbialystock]

Don't forget the caught stealing by Reyes before that double.

 

We don't know whose idea the stealing was.

 

Weren't you one of those claiming Cora should have used Jansen for the save?

 

The Sox have 13 pitchers, of whom just one is a lefty--Joely Rodriguez.

 

So, the way this talksox board operates, if Bernardino had made the roster, the boo birds would have complained every single time a lefty batter got a hit: "Why didn't that idiot Cora get a lefty pitcher on the roster?"

[vegasbob]

Although I advocated for Bernandino to be on the roster and available, we are arguing over the 26th slot on a roster that is loaded with question marks and "soreness' to key players.

 

I had told myself to not get emotionally involved with what happens to this year's version of the Sox, and realized after last night's loss, why give a flying F .

[Jasonbay44]

We don't know whose idea the stealing was.

 

Weren't you one of those claiming Cora should have used Jansen for the save?

 

The Sox have 13 pitchers, of whom just one is a lefty--Joely Rodriguez.

 

So, the way this talksox board operates, if Bernardino had made the roster, the boo birds would have complained every single time a lefty batter got a hit: "Why didn't that idiot Cora get a lefty pitcher on the roster?"

 

He’s a s***** lefty. He literally has sucked ass majority of his career. He doesn’t belong on an MLB roster. I don’t think a single person on this board, or any Red Sox fan or even baseball fan in general would be complaining about Cora not having a Joely Rodriguez to bring in

[Maxbialystock]

everyone with a different opinion from you is an idiot. Are you a politician?

 

Reread what I wrote.

 

I'm no expert, but I do know Cora has tons more expertise than any of us. It's that simple. Nobody on talksox ever managed squat. Nobody on talksox has access to the information Cora has.

 

The criticism of Cora is all about frustration that the Sox lost a game. On another website long ago and far away, every single time the Sox lost it was Francona's fault. He coulda/woulda/shoulda done this or that.

[a700hitter]

Reread what I wrote.

 

I'm no expert, but I do know Cora has tons more expertise than any of us. It's that simple. Nobody on talksox ever managed squat. Nobody on talksox has access to the information Cora has.

 

The criticism of Cora is all about frustration that the Sox lost a game. On another website long ago and far away, every single time the Sox lost it was Francona's fault. He coulda/woulda/shoulda done this or that.

I reread it. You broadly generalized posters as idiots. Dial it back, moron.

[Jasonbay44]

So Max, you think with a base open and the winning run on third, the right move was to pitch to one of the best players in the MLB, Julio Rodriguez, with a guy making his MLB debut and with a career ERA of 5 in the minors? Honest question

[a700hitter]

Can we question the manager if we have never managed a major league game? Also an honest question.

[Bellhorn04]

So Max, you think with a base open and the winning run on third, the right move was to pitch to one of the best players in the MLB, Julio Rodriguez, with a guy making his MLB debut and with a career ERA of 5 in the minors? Honest question

 

Here's a nugget I found elsewhere. It's the impact of loading the bases that tips the scale.

 

JRod career BA: .279

Polanco's career OBP: .334

 

Odds favor pitching to JRod rather than loading the bases for Polanco.

[Bellhorn04]

Can we question the manager if we have never managed a major league game? Also an honest question.

 

Absolutely. I expect people to question the s*** out of the manager.

[a700hitter]

Here's a nugget I found elsewhere. It's the impact of loading the bases that tips the scale.

 

JRod career BA: .279

Polanco's career OBP: .334

 

Odds favor pitching to JRod rather than loading the bases for Polanco.

Would you have pitched to JRod and played those odds?

[moonslav59]

We don't know whose idea the stealing was.

 

Weren't you one of those claiming Cora should have used Jansen for the save?

 

The Sox have 13 pitchers, of whom just one is a lefty--Joely Rodriguez.

 

So, the way this talksox board operates, if Bernardino had made the roster, the boo birds would have complained every single time a lefty batter got a hit: "Why didn't that idiot Cora get a lefty pitcher on the roster?"

 

No. I never said a peep about Jansen or even using Joely.

 

I support Cora way more than others.

 

I did not mean to imply Cora called for the steal attempt, but it really hurt.

 

On the "only one lefty" thing, I agree, but many RHPs do very well vs LHPs.

 

The bloop hit was unfortunate. Had that ball been caught, Cora would not be bashed.

[Jasonbay44]

Here's a nugget I found elsewhere. It's the impact of loading the bases that tips the scale.

 

JRod career BA: .279

Polanco's career OBP: .334

 

Odds favor pitching to JRod rather than loading the bases for Polanco.

Nothing against Polanco, but Julio is in another league, and Julio didn’t even need a hit. There was only one out and this at least would allow a force at home. The odds of winning probably weren’t in our favor at this point regardless, but I really wouldn’t want to make Julio Rodriguez be the one to beat us.

[Jasonbay44]

No. I never said a peep about Jansen or even using Joely.

 

I support Cora way more than others.

 

I did not mean to imply Cora called for the steal attempt, but it really hurt.

 

On the "only one lefty" thing, I agree, but many RHPs do very well vs LHPs.

 

The bloop hit was unfortunate. Had that ball been caught, Cora would not be bashed.

 

The bloop was also evened out by a 100+ MPH line drive hit right at someone. That’s baseball

[moonslav59]

The bloop was also evened out by a 100+ MPH line drive hit right at someone. That’s baseball

 

Agreed, but it's not like Joely let up a 480 ft HR. A little luck and this thread is 4 pages shorter.

 

I'm not defending Joely or Cora, but I'm also not bashing Cora.

[Jasonbay44]

Agreed, but it's not like Joely let up a 480 ft HR. A little luck and this thread is 4 pages shorter.

 

I'm not defending Joely or Cora, but I'm also not bashing Cora.

Sure, this is true, but Joely did let up a homer like 480 feet two days ago and has pretty consistently been a bad pitcher during his MLB career..

 

Edit: not literally 480 feet, but it was a bomb

[dgalehouse]

There is a lot of randomness in baseball. Bloop hits and line drive outs are a part of it. But is good for your closer to be a strike out pitcher. Pretty sure the Sox win that game if Jansen is out there.

[moonslav59]

There is a lot of randomness in baseball. Bloop hits and line drive outs are a part of it. But is good for your closer to be a strike out pitcher. Pretty sure the Sox win that game if Jansen is out there.

 

Not likely. Jansen would have been trying to pitch while hurt.

[iortiz]

Cora didn't lose the game last night, not even close. Reyes made the error to bring in the first run and Abreu the error that definitely contributed to the 3d run because it allowed the runner on 1b to get to 3b. Without Abreu's error, Mariners on 1st and 2b when the next guy hits the grounder for a very likely GIDP and a win.

 

As I've said before, these game threads are infested with idiots who don't know diddly about managing a baseball team.

 

Did I forget to mention that Cora sent McGuire in to pinch hit for Wong and that McGuire doubled?

 

Sending Rodriguez to close the game was on Cora. He is Brasier/Ort 2.0. Also why did he bench O'N?

 

It's on Cora 100%

[iortiz]

Reread what I wrote.

 

I'm no expert, but I do know Cora has tons more expertise than any of us. It's that simple. Nobody on talksox ever managed squat. Nobody on talksox has access to the information Cora has.

 

The criticism of Cora is all about frustration that the Sox lost a game. On another website long ago and far away, every single time the Sox lost it was Francona's fault. He coulda/woulda/shoulda done this or that.

 

So Cora is an immaculate baseball genius who nobody has the right to point him out? Are you f serious? Also, do you realize that this a baseball board?