Trade Deadline 2023

[notin]

Well Chaim is sure leaving it to the last minute that's for sure. Both the Jays and Rays have made solid pitching upgrades.

 

Did the Jays upgrade?

 

They acquired oft-injured Jordan Hicks to replace injured Jordan Romano…

[moonslav59]

Civale to Tampa.

 

I’d have liked to see Boston land the Northeastern product…

 

For a 1B prospect, no less.

 

I have to think we could have done better with an offer, but maybe CLE scouts really love the kid.

[Randy Red Sox]

everyone other than you I guess feels they upgraded from everything I am hearing

Did the Jays upgrade?

 

They acquired oft-injured Jordan Hicks to replace injured Jordan Romano…

[Randy Red Sox]

so big we didn't bother signing him as a FA that offseason

Last year, definitely. But Schwarber was certainly a big add in 2021…

[guinness22]

Bo Bichette injured running between first and second base. Limped off the field. If it’s anything serious that’s a big hit to Toronto.

[Randy Red Sox]

We have 3-SP about to come off the DL very soon. No need to add any pitching since our BP is already fine.

Chaim looking for the leftovers just like the previous trade deadlines.

[moonslav59]

We have 3-SP about to come off the DL very soon. No need to add any pitching since our BP is already fine.

 

We can't count on all 3. Two (Houck & Whit) need to comeback AND improve- both are better from the pen.

 

You are assuming a lot.

 

I guess hoping 2 out of 3 will do fine is not a stretch, but I'd trade for a decent SP'er, and if 2-3 comeback fine, our pen might be lights out great.

[Larry Cook]

Can we get five decent starts out of sale this year?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

The Sox are a good team but not good enough to get to the World Series, IMO. I would trade Duval, Verdugo and Paxton for as much as I could get.

 

Don't forget Turner and Kenley. I wouldn't be surprised if Bloom ends up a seller before 6PM tomorrow.

[redsoxrules]

Do you think Bloom can pull the trigger on making a trade to just improve the 2023 team, and do you think he will? If he doesn’t improve this team for this year, for a better chance to make the Postseason I think you are going to have a bunch of pissed off players in that clubhouse starting with Raffy.

 

Raffy could start by pulling his own weight before starting to complain about the deadline. He's the 300 million dollar man and he's not even the best player on the team.

[redsoxrules]

Heck he literally cost the Sox the game yesterday with the error he made on a easy grounder.

[Randy Red Sox]

so what SP would you deal for and what would you give up?

We can't count on all 3. Two (Houck & Whit) need to comeback AND improve- both are better from the pen.

 

You are assuming a lot.

 

I guess hoping 2 out of 3 will do fine is not a stretch, but I'd trade for a decent SP'er, and if 2-3 comeback fine, our pen might be lights out great.

[Randy Red Sox]

Raffy could start by pulling his own weight before starting to complain about the deadline. He's the 300 million dollar man and he's not even the best player on the team.

worst 3B in all of MLB with the glove

[Larry Cook]

worst 3B in all of MLB with the glove

 

Devers would look really good as a DH!

[redsoxrules]

Devers would look really good as a DH!

 

Wonderful, a 300 Million dollar DH!

[Randy Red Sox]

exactly

Wonderful, a 300 Million dollar DH!

[moonslav59]

Can we get five decent starts out of sale this year?

 

We got 8 in a row.

 

I assume you mean 5 more. I hope it's not 5 decent and 3 bad to finish the year.

[moonslav59]

so what SP would you deal for and what would you give up?

 

I've suggested dozens of possibilities accepted on the BTV site. Here were my latest:

 

Snell for Walter & Paulino

 

Stroman for Perales & Hickey (Stroman is not a likely trade candidate as the Cubs are buying, now.)

 

Verlander & $32M for Houck

 

Cease for Houck, Yorke & Rafaela (Cease has 2.3 yrs of control and is likely not available.)

 

Flaherty for Mata & Jimenez

[moonslav59]

worst 3B in all of MLB with the glove

 

Way off base.

 

(His arm is a bigger issue.)

[moonslav59]

Here are the remaining SP'ers from MLBTR's list of top trade candidates:

 

All Rentals, except where noted

 

Lorenzen DET 3.3

Flaherty STL 3.6

ERod DET 5.0 (Opt out)

Snell SDP 8.7

S Lugo SDP 5.4 (1.3 yrs)

Blackburn OAK 10.3 (2.3 yrs)

Verlander NYM -11.0 (1.3 yrs)

Stroman CHC 5.8 (OFF the market)

R Hill PIT 0.5

Quintana NYM 2.0 (1.3 yrs)

Carrasco NYM -2.3

Keller PIT 49.7 (2.3 yrs) BTV accepts Bleis & Houck for him

 

Other possible Sox trade candidates to give for a pitcher listed above (see values):

9.0 Alcantara

8.7 Romero

5.5 Paulino

5.3 Wikelman

4.9 Winckowski

4.1 Walter

3.9 Drohan, Perales

3.6 EValdez

3.3 Jordan

3.2 Mata

2.5 Hickey & Brannon

2.4 Abreu & Cespedes

2.3 DHam & Monegro

2.1 Meidroth & Murphy

2.0 Guerrero & E R-C

~1.8 Castro, Bernardino, Jimenez, Bonaci, McDonough

~1.5 Fernandez, Robertson, Lugo, Bastardo, Refsnyder, Chang, Garcia, Kavadas

~1.1 Cohen, Dean, Paez, Rogers, Hoppe, Stock, Troye, Duvall, Broadway, Chacon

 

[moonslav59]

BTV Accepted:

 

Arroyo & Bonaci for DeJung and Flaherty

 

Walter, Jordan & Mata for ERod & Lorenzen

 

Houck, Walter, Yorke & Jordan for Keller (2.3 yrs) & Rich Hill

 

Yorke for Snell & Lugo (1.3 yrs)

or

Walter, Paulino, Perales & Mata for Snell & Lugo (1.3)

 

[notin]

everyone other than you I guess feels they upgraded from everything I am hearing

 

I think most of them see the addition of Hicks and not the subtraction of Romano…

[notin]

Wonderful, a 300 Million dollar DH!

 

Would you feel better if Devers moved to 1b and Casas (with his minimum wage salary) became DH?

[redsoxrules]

Would you feel better if Devers moved to 1b and Casas (with his minimum wage salary) became DH?

 

Nope

[Bellhorn04]

Would you feel better if Devers moved to 1b and Casas (with his minimum wage salary) became DH?

 

We all love Raffy, but he's not having a great season - on pace for 3 fWAR.

[Bellhorn04]

This West Coast mini-skid can't be doing much to motivate the Tortoise to buy...

[notin]

This West Coast mini-skid can't be doing much to motivate the Tortoise to buy...

 

I’m hoping Bloom isn’t as bipolar as the bulk of Internet forums. (Not this one, of course.)

[Bellhorn04]

I’m hoping Bloom isn’t as bipolar as the bulk of Internet forums. (Not this one, of course.)

 

I don't think any of us have been expecting much, frankly. The biggest move we've seen from Chaim the past two deadlines was the trade for the injured Schwarber, which worked out great, but the fact that was the biggest move says a lot.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I don't think any of us have been expecting much, frankly. The biggest move we've seen from Chaim the past two deadlines was the trade for the injured Schwarber, which worked out great, but the fact that was the biggest move says a lot.

 

Prepare to be whelmed!

[Randy Red Sox]

Padres are not selling and Verlander wants to go to Houston and if not then LA

I've suggested dozens of possibilities accepted on the BTV site. Here were my latest:

 

Snell for Walter & Paulino

 

Stroman for Perales & Hickey (Stroman is not a likely trade candidate as the Cubs are buying, now.)

 

Verlander & $32M for Houck

 

Cease for Houck, Yorke & Rafaela (Cease has 2.3 yrs of control and is likely not available.)

 

Flaherty for Mata & Jimenez