2023 Prospects

[moonslav59]

WOO scored 4 in the top of the 9th to win 6-5.

RHern with the winning rbi.

 

POR lost 6-3 as Liu let up all 6 in the first.

Yorke 1-2 w 2BBs and Hickey went 2-4.

 

 

[mvp 78]

@alexspeier

As @ianmbrowne reported, Marcelo Mayer has been sent from Portland to Fort Myers and won't play again this year while continuing to rehab his left shoulder (inflammation that he feels when swinging). He finishes 2023 having hit 236/.306/.433 w/13 HR and 34 XBH in 78 Gs though those numbers were dragged down by a few rough weeks at the end while he was dealing with the shoulder issue. He'll take part in some instructional league activities starting next week. An AZ Fall League assignment would be a consideration if he gets to 100% health. But priority with this decision was a healthy, full, normal offseason.

[moonslav59]

@alexspeier

As @ianmbrowne reported, Marcelo Mayer has been sent from Portland to Fort Myers and won't play again this year while continuing to rehab his left shoulder (inflammation that he feels when swinging). He finishes 2023 having hit 236/.306/.433 w/13 HR and 34 XBH in 78 Gs though those numbers were dragged down by a few rough weeks at the end while he was dealing with the shoulder issue. He'll take part in some instructional league activities starting next week. An AZ Fall League assignment would be a consideration if he gets to 100% health. But priority with this decision was a healthy, full, normal offseason.

 

Despite the injury, he really didn't jump out and impress.

 

He's young and has plenty of time to grow, but I have to think these farm basher people are going to go off on Mayer, while others say he's "untouchable."

[moonslav59]

How about this Kristian Campbell kid? He was the comp pick we got in the 4th round from Georgia Tech.

 

Small sample size, for sure (just 49 ABs), but with just 1 HR, he leads our farm in OPS at 1.079 (among all players with 49+ ABs)

.508 OBP

.571 SLG

 

Another SS drafted by the Sox! UGHHH!

[Larry Cook]

How about this Kristian Campbell kid? He was the comp pick we got in the 4th round from Georgia Tech.

 

Small sample size, for sure (just 49 ABs), but with just 1 HR, he leads our farm in OPS at 1.079 (among all players with 49+ ABs)

.508 OBP

.571 SLG

 

Another SS drafted by the Sox! UGHHH!

 

I saw him play at ga. Tech and he did not jump out at me as impressive.

[moonslav59]

SAL won 8-3 as Soto pitched 1 hit ball over 4IP (1BB and 6K)

3-4 Asigen (3 doubles)

2-3 Anderson

2-4 Garcia (w 3b)

3-4 Yuten

 

GRE lost 5-3

1-3 Paulino w BB

 

POR continues losing, this time 3-2

2-4 Jordan

 

WOO is winning 3-2, late

Murphy 4.1, 3H, 1ER, 2BB, 7K

DHam 1-2 w 2BB and his 54th SB

Scott 0-2 w 2BB

Zimmer homered

 

[moonslav59]

Sox Pitching Prospects by Current Ranking:

 

7. Perales A+ 20 (looking steady)

8. Wikelman AA 21 (may rise some)

11. Drohan AAA 24 (will drop)

13. Walter AAA 27 (aging out)

21. Mata AAA 24 (can't stay healthy)

25. E R-C 20 A- (2.65 ERA)

27. Fernandez AAA 25 (will drop)

29. Monegro A+ (May be a surprise: .527 OPSA)

31. Guerrero AAA 23 (may be a decent RP'er: .527 OPSA)

32. Dobbins AA 24 (3.77 ERA/.653 OPSA ) Rise?

33. Hoppe AA 24

34. Bastardo AA 22 (.678 OPSA) stay even?

35. Rogers A+ 22 (.659 OPSA) even?

38. Robertson AAA 25

39. Troye AA 24 (.622 OPSA)

40. Paez A- 19 (.613 OPSA)- Room to improve at his age

43. Gambrell AAA 25 (.705 OPSA- I think will jump 15+ slots)

48. I Coffey AA 23 (.680 OPSA- should rise)

49. F Encarnacion FCL 18 (dropping but still young)

51. Liu AA 24 (dropping)

57. Zeferjahn AA 24(dropping)

58. M Duffy 21 A-

59. Politi 26 AAA

[mvp 78]

I saw him play at ga. Tech and he did not jump out at me as impressive.

 

Seems to be a contact bat who hasn't tapped into his power potential. He'll probably see more time in the OF next year to better utilize his speed. I'm not going to get worked up over A ball numbers though. Seems like AA is a much bigger jump than it ever has been before.

[Hugh2]

How about this Kristian Campbell kid? He was the comp pick we got in the 4th round from Georgia Tech.

 

Small sample size, for sure (just 49 ABs), but with just 1 HR, he leads our farm in OPS at 1.079 (among all players with 49+ ABs)

.508 OBP

.571 SLG

 

Another SS drafted by the Sox! UGHHH!

 

I actually had a dream a few weeks ago that in 2024 the Boston Red Sox end up drafting a short stop with their first-round pick. And everyone got angry.

[Dipre]

I actually had a dream a few weeks ago that in 2024 the Boston Red Sox end up drafting a short stop with their first-round pick. And everyone got angry.

 

Sure it's not a deja-dream?

[moonslav59]

I actually had a dream a few weeks ago that in 2024 the Boston Red Sox end up drafting a short stop with their first-round pick. And everyone got angry.

 

I honestly would not mind, if they draft 4 SSs out of their top 8 picks, every year.

[Hugh2]

Sure it's not a deja-dream?

 

Or it might of been I had an actual vision of the future.

[Hugh2]

I honestly would not mind, if they draft 4 SSs out of their top 8 picks, every year.

 

Neither would I.

 

Realistically you're not drafting 4 SS every year. You're drafting a SS, a 2B, a 3B an an outfielder every year. They just all played SS up until that point.

[moonslav59]

Neither would I.

 

Realistically you're not drafting 4 SS every year. You're drafting a SS, a 2B, a 3B an an outfielder every year. They just all played SS up until that point.

 

Exactly. A point, no matter how many times repeated, is not understood by a select few posters, here.

 

Also, the hit rate on drafting everyday players vs pitchers on any picks outside the top 10.

[harmony]

Despite the injury, he really didn't jump out and impress.

 

He's young and has plenty of time to grow, but I have to think these farm basher people are going to go off on Mayer, while others say he's "untouchable."

Jordan Lawlar, a high school shortstop taken two slots after Marcelo Mayer in the 2021 draft, is expected to make his MLB debut Thursday for the Arizona Diamondbacks:

 

https://www.milb.com/news/arizona-diamondbacks-calling-up-jordan-lawlar

[mvp 78]

Exactly. A point, no matter how many times repeated, is not understood by a select few posters, here.

 

Also, the hit rate on drafting everyday players vs pitchers on any picks outside the top 10.

 

The hit rate sucks for all MLB draft picks. The issue is that pitchers are a much volatile commodity as they have a higher injury risk even if you hit on the pick.

[mvp 78]

Jordan Lawlar, a high school shortstop taken two slots after Marcelo Mayer in the 2021 draft, is expected to make his MLB debut Thursday for the Arizona Diamondbacks:

 

https://www.milb.com/news/arizona-diamondbacks-calling-up-jordan-lawlar

 

Cool!

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I actually had a dream a few weeks ago that in 2024 the Boston Red Sox end up drafting a short stop with their first-round pick. And everyone got angry.

 

They weren't mad at the actual pick, just the actual CBO who wouldn't trade any of his other 75 SS prospects in a deal for an authentic MLB pitcher.

 

That dream just didn't make sense.

[Hugh2]

Cool!

 

I remember the argument between Lawlar and Mayer. There were many who thought Lawlar was as good as Mayer.

 

Marcelo might be right there with him or close to it if it wasn't for his injuries. I think it may be more realistic to expect him in early 2025 now.

[mvp 78]

I remember the argument between Lawlar and Mayer. There were many who thought Lawlar was as good as Mayer.

 

Marcelo might be right there with him or close to it if it wasn't for his injuries. I think it may be more realistic to expect him in early 2025 now.

 

Lawler was the Sox initial target, but Mayer was perceived to be the number 1 pick. Either way, it's a crapshoot. Not sure why Lawlar had to be brought up.

[mvp 78]

They weren't mad at the actual pick, just the actual CBO who wouldn't trade any of his other 75 SS prospects in a deal for an authentic MLB pitcher.

 

That dream just didn't make sense.

 

Which ones? When I looked at the trade deadline, it didn't look like the pitchers that would have helped us would have been traded for the SS prospects that we had.

[moonslav59]

Which ones? When I looked at the trade deadline, it didn't look like the pitchers that would have helped us would have been traded for the SS prospects that we had.

 

I don't get how TBR gets Civale for a 1Bman with a .780 AAA OPS.

[Bellhorn04]

I don't get how TBR gets Civale for a 1Bman with a .780 AAA OPS.

 

Because Manzardo is/was a fairly highly ranked prospect.

[moonslav59]

Because Manzardo is/was a fairly highly ranked prospect.

 

He must be a much better fielder than Dalbec.

 

LOL

[moonslav59]

Here is my new rankings list, which can change with the wind...

 

1. Anthony

2. Teel

3. Mayer

4. Rafaela

5. Cespedes

6. Bleis

7. Wikelman

8. Perales

9. Joh Garcia

10. Yorke

11. Castro

12. W Abreu

13. Zanetello

14. Romero

15. Monegro

16. Anderson

17. Gambrell

18. Hickey

19. E R-C

20. Bonachi

21.Meidroth

22. EValdez

23. S Scott

24. Drohan

25. Mata

26. Guerrero

27. I Coffey

28. K Campbell

29. DHam

30. Jordan

31. Yuten

32.Rosier

 

Out of top 32: Alcantara, Paulino, Walter, Fernandez, C Coffey

Edited September 7, 2023 by moonslav59

[mvp 78]

I don't get how TBR gets Civale for a 1Bman with a .780 AAA OPS.

 

Bobby Dalbec is 5 years older than Manzardo.

[Larry Cook]

Here is my new rankings list, which can change with the wind...

 

1. Anthony

2. Teel

3. Mayer

4. Rafaela

5. Cespedes

6. Bleis

7. Wikelman

8. Perales

9. Joh Garcia

10. Yorke

11. Castro

12. W Abreu

13. Zanetello

14. Romero

15. Monegro

16. Anderson

17. Gambrell

18. Hickey

19. E R-C

20. Bonachi

21.Meidroth

22. EValdez

23. S Scott

24. Drohan

25. Mata

26. Guerrero

27. I Coffey

28. K Campbell

29. DHam

30. Jordan

31. Yuten

32.Rosier

 

Out of top 32: Alcantara, Paulino, Walter, Fernandez, C Coffey

 

I think list is really good! Great job putting this together

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

I have Teel at the top. Most important regular position on the diamond. Best catcher in this year's draft.

 

A 1.72 pop time throwing out baserunners trying to steal; Realmuto leads the majors with 1.82...

 

And Teel can hit...played on three teams at three levels so far this summer... with an overall batting average of .368, OPS .941.

[moonslav59]

I have Teel at the top. Most important regular position on the diamond. Best catcher in this year's draft.

 

A 1.72 pop time throwing out baserunners trying to steal; Realmuto leads the majors with 1.82...

 

And Teel can hit...played on three teams at three levels so far this summer... with an overall batting average of .368, OPS .941.

 

I debated flipping Teel & Anthony.

 

I had a hard time figuring Bleis, Romero and Drohan.

[mvp 78]

TalkSox should be posting their updated rankings today.