Corey Kluber

[Hugh2]

I guess it sounds good? IDK if they are going to go large and long on a SS. They'll need to prove me wrong.

 

I think we get PTSD from bad offseasons and losing seasons and forgot the Sox still are and continue to be one of the biggest spenders in MLB baseball. Every time they go a few years without spending big they go out and set the market time and time and time and time again. With close $100 million to spend and a BIG 4 in SS I think it's a good opinion to have to expect them to go big at SS.

[Bellhorn04]

I think we get PTSD from bad offseasons and losing seasons and forgot the Sox still are and continue to be one of the biggest spenders in MLB baseball. Every time they go a few years without spending big they go out and set the market time and time and time and time again. With close $100 million to spend and a BIG 4 in SS I think it's a good opinion to have to expect them to go big at SS.

 

While I agree that the Red Sox have been consistent spenders, I think it's been a while since they have set the market on anything. The biggest deal they have ever handed out is Price's 217 mill, which now falls well below some of the biggest contracts.

[Hugh2]

While I agree that the Red Sox have been consistent spenders, I think it's been a while since they have set the market on anything. The biggest deal they have ever handed out is Price's 217 mill, which now falls well below some of the biggest contracts.

 

They’re 95 million below the cap, it’s not a guarantee they will go over or even right up against it but we know at the very least they’re spending most of that money. Precedent proves this, the money is going somewhere, we can expect big moves.

[mvp 78]

I think we get PTSD from bad offseasons and losing seasons and forgot the Sox still are and continue to be one of the biggest spenders in MLB baseball. Every time they go a few years without spending big they go out and set the market time and time and time and time again. With close $100 million to spend and a BIG 4 in SS I think it's a good opinion to have to expect them to go big at SS.

 

There have been some abosolutely putrid offseasons in recent memory starting with the Hanley/Pablo debacle.

[mvp 78]

While I agree that the Red Sox have been consistent spenders, I think it's been a while since they have set the market on anything. The biggest deal they have ever handed out is Price's 217 mill, which now falls well below some of the biggest contracts.

 

Setting the market isn't always a good idea. Even after they signed Manny the pushed him through waivers every season.

[moonslav59]

The problem is there are only 3 guys you can consider ACES on this years class: Verlander, Rodon, and DeGrome. All of those guys are going to blow up your budget (which would be fine if there weren't so many holes to fill) and carry significant Injury and or age risk. I love Verlander, but there's very high-risk next year is the year he hits the wall and can no longer be a staple in anyone rotation, and if it's not next year then maybe it's the next. Does anyone think that's not a massive risk for 40 million dollars per year for his age 40, 41, and 42 seasons? I really would have to see 70 million wasted on him and Sale with little to nothing to show. DeGrome is a safer bet with age but has the injury track record to scare anyone and he's looking at a massive payout still. A team without as many rotation holes to fill will pay him.

 

I almost want to remove Bassit from my suggestion, I like him, but I don't like losing the pick. This is why I love Senga, no QO, but I still think we need two names and likely have to lose a pick to sign a guy.

 

I think we need two names from the Senga/Walker/Bassitt/Manea/Kluber/Heaney/Eovaldi/Syndergaard group to fill out this rotation. I think one needs to be one of the better betts and the other can be who the Sox think may be this years WACHA type. Go into the season with 7 pitchers who are NOT Wink/Crawford.

 

I really like netting picks and going with a Senga/(Syndergaard or Eovaldi) addition. Heck I'd do the same at SS with either Bogaerts/Correa and call it a good offseason while netting picks.

 

Good points. Other than getting a solid SP'er via trade, I think this might be the best we can expect to happen:

 

1 from Nate or Senga

1 from Kluber, Heaney, Lugo, and maybe Wacha or Strahm as a starter.

 

To me, this essentially make 2023 a punt season. Nothing else we could do would make me think we're a top contender, even if we sign Correa, Nimmo and a couple solid pen arms, which ain't happening.

[mvp 78]

Good points. Other than getting a solid SP'er via trade, I think this might be the best we can expect to happen:

 

1 from Nate or Senga

1 from Kluber, Heaney, Lugo, and maybe Wacha or Strahm as a starter.

 

To me, this essentially make 2023 a punt season. Nothing else we could do would make me think we're a top contender, even if we sign Correa, Nimmo and a couple solid pen arms, which ain't happening.

 

I look forward to this year's postseason run.

[moonslav59]

I look forward to this year's postseason run.

 

I think, by opening day, we will have a roster where most baseball prognosticators pick us as a probable wild card team.

 

How we get there is the 90 million dollar question.

[mvp 78]

I think, by opening day, we will have a roster where most baseball prognosticators pick us as a probable wild card team.

 

How we get there is the 90 million dollar question.

 

Maybe John Henry was overly invested in FTX and won't be able to get to that 90M...

[moonslav59]

Maybe John Henry was overly invested in FTX and won't be able to get to that 90M...

 

Maybe. I'm going on the assumption we once again, end up near the tax line, knowing full well I could be wrong to the plus or the minus.

Edited November 21, 2022 by moonslav59

[Bellhorn04]

Maybe John Henry was overly invested in FTX and won't be able to get to that 90M...

 

No worries, he's too smart for that.

[moonslav59]

No worries, he's too smart for that.

 

Even if he lost $90M or more on a venture such as that, there is no reason to expect it to force a tightening of the Red Sox winter spending budget.

[mvp 78]

Even if he lost $90M or more on a venture such as that, there is no reason to expect it to force a tightening of the Red Sox winter spending budget.

 

He was already forced to sell Liverpool!

[Hugh2]

He was already forced to sell Liverpool!

 

Was he forced though? Aren’t they looking at buying a hockey team now? Is there any news on how invested he was if at all into FTX

[moonslav59]

He was already forced to sell Liverpool!

 

"Forced to sell." That's a good one.

 

You do know the massive profit that will be made, right?

 

Enough to pay several Dodger payrolls, for sure.

[mvp 78]

No worries, he's too smart for that.

 

Smartest guy in the room and all that.

[mvp 78]

Was he forced though? Aren’t they looking at buying a hockey team now? Is there any news on how invested he was if at all into FTX

 

I thought it was the Washington Commanders?

[mvp 78]

"Forced to sell." That's a good one.

 

You do know the massive profit that will be made, right?

 

Enough to pay several Dodger payrolls, for sure.

 

Does that all go directly to the Red Sox?

[moonslav59]

Does that all go directly to the Red Sox?

 

Not likely, the same as any big loss in a Henry investment would hurt the sox winter player spending budget.

 

Your statement about the forced sale of Liverpool made it sound like Henry might have less to spend on the Sox, when the opposite would be truer.

[mvp 78]

Not likely, the same as any big loss in a Henry investment would hurt the sox winter player spending budget.

 

Your statement about the forced sale of Liverpool made it sound like Henry might have less to spend on the Sox, when the opposite would be truer.

 

Does he have a buyer? When is the money coming in? Does he have creditors to pay off?

[moonslav59]

Does he have a buyer? When is the money coming in? Does he have creditors to pay off?

 

You tell me. You brought it up.

[Hugh2]

I thought it was the Washington Commanders?

 

Yes you're correct, my bad.

[Hugh2]

I have heard absolutely nothing about Henry being invested in FTX, and if he heavily was I feel that we would have heard something. It's possible he may have had a small slice of the pie, but he strikes me as a smart enough man to not put all his eggs in one basket. I think this is a non issue and pure speculation.

[mvp 78]

You tell me. You brought it up.

 

No buyer. No money. Many creditors. Poor house. Barrel wearer. Sox bad.

[mvp 78]

I have heard absolutely nothing about Henry being invested in FTX, and if he heavily was I feel that we would have heard something. It's possible he may have had a small slice of the pie, but he strikes me as a smart enough man to not put all his eggs in one basket. I think this is a non issue and pure speculation.

 

This is coming on the heels of his Bored Apes NFT being stolen as well.

 

Hard times daddy.

[Hugh2]

This is coming on the heels of his Bored Apes NFT being stolen as well.

 

Hard times daddy.

 

IDK, this feels like pure conjecture. I don't think Henry is heavily invested in it, or at least enough to change any decisions the Red Sox will make. Is there any evidence to back this up? any articles tying Henry to NFT???

[a700hitter]

No worries, he's too smart for that.

Didn’t he run his hedge fund business into bankruptcy?

[Hugh2]

Didn’t he run his hedge fund business into bankruptcy?

 

Technically he did, but he also built it up too and used it to build up a sports empire that is still going strong.

 

FWIW a lot of hedge funds went belly up during the financial crisis.

[mvp 78]

Didn’t he run his hedge fund business into bankruptcy?

 

But that time it was different!

[mvp 78]

IDK, this feels like pure conjecture. I don't think Henry is heavily invested in it, or at least enough to change any decisions the Red Sox will make. Is there any evidence to back this up? any articles tying Henry to NFT???

 

When the pictures start dropping of him palling around with CZ of Binance and then the Sox really become Tampa North, don't be mad at me.