2023 Free Agents

[notin]

Is that a trick question? Point being they didn’t sign Turner to go to the bench, and if they did I would think Bloom is even worse than he is if that’s possible.

 

 

And Toronto didn’t sign Kiermaier to put him on the bench, but sometimes you can make a trade that improves your team even more. If money allows, why shouldn’t they?

[notin]

And they don't like that he'll ONLY take batting practice in the indoors cage.

 

Maybe he gets dealt for a shortstop?

 

Verdugo for Ames Rosario? Cleveland is swamped with middle infielders and is starting (per Roster Resource) someone named Oscar Gonzalez in the OF.

 

Granted he did have a big postseason home run…

[moonslav59]

So can losing money.

 

If you're going to argue that Henry's spending might be affected by the $8 million buyout to JBJ, you can't ignore the effect of attendance and viewership.

 

If it wasn't for the fans, payrolls could have been a lot lower over the years and we might have fewer titles.

 

Again, I'm not arguing that the choice was wrong for business or even for team success, but I do believe trading JD would not have affected the bottom line revenues enough to offset how much happier the fans would be when we don't have to reset as early, we get better prospects with better comp picks, and maybe we we don't do any worse than we did to end 2022 without JD.

 

Fans seem to get over being angry, when the team wins, and we'd have a better chance at winning not only in 2023, but beyond had we had a mini fire sale or an all out one. (IMO)

[Old Red]

And Toronto didn’t sign Kiermaier to put him on the bench, but sometimes you can make a trade that improves your team even more. If money allows, why shouldn’t they?

 

Come on man! Turner s not going to the bench anytime soon for the Boston Red Sox.

[moonslav59]

Come on man! Turner s not going to the bench anytime soon for the Boston Red Sox.

 

Seems awfully similar to the argument we could find enough PAs for Schwarber, JD and Dugo after the 2021 season.

[moonslav59]

Taylor Rogers to Giants for $33M/3.

[Bellhorn04]

Taylor Rogers to Giants for $33M/3.

 

That was announced a while ago.

 

MLBTR seems to have 3 separate announcements for each signing now.

[moonslav59]

That was announced a while ago.

 

MLBTR seems to have 3 separate announcements for each signing now.

 

Yes, when it is made, when it is "finalized" and when it is announced to the public.

[dgalehouse]

It seems pretty obvious that Turner will DH. Also, backup third baseman and sometimes platoon at first base. No way they are planning on him being on the bench.

[moonslav59]

Segura signs for $17M/2 with Marlins.

 

I wonder if that Wendle trade with the Sox just became more likely.

 

Chisholm is expected to be moved to SS, so it looks like Rojas might be a trade candidate. I'd rather get Rojas for a year than Wendle.

 

Also, the Braves get Luetge from Yanks for 2 minor leaguers.

Edited December 29, 2022 by moonslav59

[Bellhorn04]

Again, I'm not arguing that the choice was wrong for business or even for team success, but I do believe trading JD would not have affected the bottom line revenues enough to offset how much happier the fans would be when we don't have to reset as early, we get better prospects with better comp picks, and maybe we we don't do any worse than we did to end 2022 without JD.

 

Fans seem to get over being angry, when the team wins, and we'd have a better chance at winning not only in 2023, but beyond had we had a mini fire sale or an all out one. (IMO)

 

If we confine it to trading JD, I might agree. Reportedly Bloom did shop JD, but did not get any offers he liked. Also reported he was asking for a lot.

[mvp 78]

Maybe he gets dealt for a shortstop?

 

Verdugo for Ames Rosario? Cleveland is swamped with middle infielders and is starting (per Roster Resource) someone named Oscar Gonzalez in the OF.

 

Granted he did have a big postseason home run…

 

Sox would still have to find a RFer then.

[mvp 78]

Seems awfully similar to the argument we could find enough PAs for Schwarber, JD and Dugo after the 2021 season.

 

They made it work down the stretch. Why wouldn't it work in 2022?

[mvp 78]

Segura signs for $17M/2 with Marlins.

 

I wonder if that Wendle trade with the Sox just became more likely.

 

Chisholm is expected to be moved to SS, so it looks like Rojas might be a trade candidate. I'd rather get Rojas for a year than Wendle.

 

Also, the Braves get Luetge from Yanks for 2 minor leaguers.

 

Rojas and Duran have the same value on BTV.

[notin]

Rojas and Duran have the same value on BTV.

 

And both are probably overvalued!!

[notin]

Sox would still have to find a RFer then.

 

Again, Ramon Laureano. (Wasn’t your suggestion all along that the Sox need a new RF?)

 

BTV accepts Matt Lugo for him. Oakland always accepts less than BTV…

[mvp 78]

And both are probably overvalued!!

 

Fine by me. I'd do that trade and wouldn't mind. His skillset is similar to a former Sox SS that was also a placeholder and came from the Marlins.

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/alex-gonzalez/520/stats?position=SS

 

Time is a flat circle and yadda yadda yadda...

[mvp 78]

Again, Ramon Laureano. (Wasn’t your suggestion all along that the Sox need a new RF?)

 

BTV accepts Matt Lugo for him. Oakland always accepts less than BTV…

 

IDK, I think I may becoming Matt Lugo-pilled. Send them Brandon Walter instead who has the same value.

[moonslav59]

If we confine it to trading JD, I might agree. Reportedly Bloom did shop JD, but did not get any offers he liked. Also reported he was asking for a lot.

 

I think someone offered to pay the whole remaining salary. He should have taken that for a low A ball player. To me, this was a blunder, but I understand why others think otherwise, and some reasons why they said no, assuming the report was true.

[moonslav59]

They made it work down the stretch. Why wouldn't it work in 2022?

 

It would have in '22, because Dalbec sucked and they could have player Schwarber there. My point wasn't about it being right or wrong- just that the arguments were similar- finding playing time for 3 guys at 2 positions.

[moonslav59]

Rojas and Duran have the same value on BTV.

 

I think Duran is grossly over-valued on BTV. I'd gladly do that trade and then Murphy for Michael A Taylor.

 

I'd even give Duran and Murphy for 1 year of Rojas.

 

i know Duran still has promise, but I'm pretty much done hoping for him to break out.

[Jasonbay44]

Passan:

 

BREAKING: Shortstop Carlos Correa and the Minnesota Twins are finalizing a six-year, $200 million contract, sources tell ESPN. The deal has a vesting option that can max out at $270 million. It is pending physical

[moonslav59]

Passan:

 

BREAKING: Shortstop Carlos Correa and the Minnesota Twins are finalizing a six-year, $200 million contract, sources tell ESPN. The deal has a vesting option that can max out at $270 million. It is pending physical

 

Wow!

 

That's what many felt Bogey should have gotten.

[Bellhorn04]

Wow!

 

That's what many felt Bogey should have gotten.

 

Correa's guaranteed money went from $350 mill (Giants) to $200 mill because of the medical concerns.

[moonslav59]

Correa's guaranteed money went from $350 mill (Giants) to $200 mill because of the medical concerns.

 

I wonder what kind of medical riders the Giants and Mets were insisting on. They must have been major.

 

It looks like the Twins made out very well, assuming to IL time over the leg issue.

[Bellhorn04]

I wonder what kind of medical riders the Giants and Mets were insisting on. They must have been major.

 

It looks like the Twins made out very well, assuming to IL time over the leg issue.

 

"Assuming", yes. There's obviously something pretty concerning there. The guy does have a plate in his leg, after all.

[moonslav59]

"Assuming", yes. There's obviously something pretty concerning there. The guy does have a plate in his leg, after all.

 

Apparently, the Mets would only guarantee half the contract- about $157M. The Twins offered $43M more guaranteed!

 

I was kinda hoping to see Correa in the NL, but at least he's not a Yankee.

[Jasonbay44]

The fact Correa failed two different physicals and had to accept significantly less money and years makes me wonder how bad his injury concerns are. That’s almost unheard of.

[Bellhorn04]

The fact Correa failed two different physicals and had to accept significantly less money and years makes me wonder how bad his injury concerns are. That’s almost unheard of.

 

It's an unusual case. Apparently the injury may never become an issue, but if it does, it could be a huge one. And with this much money at stake you can see teams being nervous.

[notin]

It's an unusual case. Apparently the injury may never become an issue, but if it does, it could be a huge one. And with this much money at stake you can see teams being nervous.

 

Except Texas when signing deGrom…