10/22 ALCS Game 6 @ Astros

[Thunder]

RHP Nate Eovaldi vs RHP Luis Garcia

 

We got this. Can't win tomorrow if we don't win tonight. Nobody I would rather have on the hill

[moonslav59]

Thunder!

 

[Thunder]

I prefer this one:

[Bellhorn04]

I knew you'd come through for us, Thunder. You're clutch, man.

[mvp 78]

Can '1999 ALDS Pedro Martinez come out of the bullpen tonight?

[mvp 78]

[Thunder]

I knew you'd come through for us, Thunder. You're clutch, man.

 

I mean, I got us two walk offs and a trip to the ALCS. I wasn't going to do it because I've been crazy busy this week, but I thought I should at least throw it out there

[mvp 78]

[mvp 78]

[YastrzemskI]

 

Posted this clip twice and they won both of those times in the post season. GO SoX!

 

Quit fooling around and knock these H-Town pricks into the middle of next week.

 

WIN! THAT’S ALL!!!

[d-money]

The stros don’t want a game 7. I I feel a game 7 would be an advantage to us. The problem here is can this team score early and often tonight? They need to quiet the crowd early.

[moonslav59]

The problem here is can this team score early and often tonight?

 

I know I often sound like a broken record, so I shouldn't cast stones, but I found this interesting stat.

 

The Astros have won 56% of their games when down after the first inning. (We've won 35% or over a third.)

 

When behind...

 

After 2, they've won 38% to our 31%.

After 3, 23 to 21%, but then if flips...

 

After 4 innings, we win 26.2% to their 25.5%.

After 5 innings, we win 28% to their 23%.

 

[d-money]

I know I often sound like a broken record, so I shouldn't cast stones, but I found this interesting stat.

 

The Astros have won 56% of their games when down after the first inning. (We've won 35% or over a third.)

 

When behind...

 

After 2, they've won 38% to our 31%.

After 3, 23 to 21%, but then if flips...

 

After 4 innings, we win 26.2% to their 25.5%.

After 5 innings, we win 28% to their 23%.

 

 

Again you want them to play catch-up. Get a 2-0 or 3-0 lead. We shall see how this game goes but the offense has 6 hits the last two games. You ain’t winning many games like that.

[Maxbialystock]

I know I often sound like a broken record, so I shouldn't cast stones, but I found this interesting stat.

 

The Astros have won 56% of their games when down after the first inning. (We've won 35% or over a third.)

 

When behind...

 

After 2, they've won 38% to our 31%.

After 3, 23 to 21%, but then if flips...

 

After 4 innings, we win 26.2% to their 25.5%.

After 5 innings, we win 28% to their 23%.

 

 

Those stats don't reassure me. What does reassure me for now is our starter tonight is better than theirs, so I'm hoping the Sox get an early lead. Even better would be 6 runs, which so far has been the postseason magic number.

[moonslav59]

Those stats don't reassure me. What does reassure me for now is our starter tonight is better than theirs, so I'm hoping the Sox get an early lead. Even better would be 6 runs, which so far has been the postseason magic number.

 

They weren't meant to reassure us, but it does show that getting a lead on Houston early does ot even give you a better than 50% chance of winning, so how important is that cliche?

 

While winning 1 out of every 3 games you fall behind early or 1 out fo 4 by mid game does not sound all that good or "reassuring," it still is a significant amount of times to come back.

 

MLB.com has us at 47 of our 92 wins were come from behind. I would never count us out, if the game is close.

 

[moonslav59]

Again you want them to play catch-up. Get a 2-0 or 3-0 lead. We shall see how this game goes but the offense has 6 hits the last two games. You ain’t winning many games like that.

 

I don't want them to. Why do keep taking what I say to mean that?

 

Of course I want us to go up 12-0.

 

My point is, we can and have comeback more than any other team, so it does not seem as important to our team as it did to 29 other teams, but you keep acting like we are doomed, if we go down early.

 

Also, the Astros still win more than half their games, when the opps lead after 1 inning, so going up on them is no guarantee of winning, either.

 

None of these stats are meant to show we have a better chance of winning by falling behind or that I want us to have to come back and win.

 

We win way more games, when we take an early lead. That is an obvious thing.

 

My point is that no team does better at coming from behind, so why is that the one thing you keep harping on?

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

The difference in the two teams right now -- and in who leads the series -- is that Boston had a lights out bullpen in the first half, but Houston had a better bullpen in the second half and now because they acquired three really good relief pitchers at the trade deadline.

[mvp 78]

Went out and bought some Reese's cups for tonight.

 

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[d-money]

I want a game 7 and i think MLB wants one as well. Go sawx!!!!!

[moonslav59]

The difference in the two teams right now -- and in who leads the series -- is that Boston had a lights out bullpen in the first half, but Houston had a better bullpen in the second half and now because they acquired three really good relief pitchers at the trade deadline.

 

That Graveman deal was a real head-scratcher (Joe Smith & Abraham Toro). He was pretty good 19 inning in 2020 (1.232 WHIP), but was doing very well for SEA. He actually dropped off a lot for the Astros after the trade. There was some grumbling, here, after a 6 game stretch shortly after the trade, where he had a 7.71 ERA and .858 OPS Against. His HOU numbers for 2021: 1.391 WHIP in 23 IP.

 

Montero was basically a scrub throw in who has only pitched 6 IP for the Astros. There was talk he'd be DFA'd after the trade. He didn't pitch after AUG 8th.

 

Maton is a career 1.407 WHIP journeyman. He has not done well with HOU since the trade:

1.579 WHIP and 4.97 ERA in 25.1 IP

 

Yimi Garcia has sucked since the trade, but he was pretty good beforehand.

5.48 ERA and 1.078 WHIP in 21.1 IP w HOU, this year.

 

Sox pitchers added at or after the deadline:

 

Robles 3.60/1.360 in 25 IP

Davis 4.86/1.500 in 16.2 IP

 

From own system:

Sale 3.16/1.336

Brasier 1.50/1.333

[moonslav59]

... i think MLB wants one as well.

 

This might be what matters most.

[redsox87871]

Boston Red Sox Lineup

 

1. Kyle Schwarber

2. Kike Hernandez

3. Rafael Devers

4. Xander Bogaerts

5. J.D. Martinez

6. Alex Verdugo

7. Christian Arroyo

8. Hunter Renfroe

9. Kevin Plawecki

[NewSox]

Boston Red Sox Lineup

 

1. Kyle Schwarber

2. Kike Hernandez

3. Rafael Devers

4. Xander Bogaerts

5. J.D. Martinez

6. Alex Verdugo

7. Christian Arroyo

8. Hunter Renfroe

9. Kevin Plawecki

 

No surprises there- dancin with the ones that brung ya ...

[moonslav59]

No surprises there- dancin with the ones that brung ya ...

 

Renfroe 8th is a significant move.

 

They also had been putting Verdugo up 5th and JD up 6th vs righties for a while, but they flipped them back.

 

I was worried they might go with Vaz, because he seems to be hitting better and not GIDPs like Plawecki (something like 3 in 7 PAs), but I guess Cora believes in Catcher-Pitcher Karma.

[moonslav59]

Our first 5 hitters have 19 HRs in 10 playoff games, this year.

 

43 RBIs, too!

[NewSox]

Renfroe 8th is a significant move.

 

They also had been putting Verdugo up 5th and JD up 6th vs righties for a while, but they flipped them back.

 

I was worried they might go with Vaz, because he seems to be hitting better and not GIDPs like Plawecki (something like 3 in 7 PAs), but I guess Cora believes in Catcher-Pitcher Karma.

 

Good point about Hunter - maybe the shakeup will light a fire under him. Worst case, if Renfroe can't get on base then it makes it just a little harder for Plawecki to hit into DPs

Edited October 22, 2021 by NewSox

[moonslav59]

Good point about Hunter - maybe the shakeup will light a fire under him. Worst case, if Renfroe can't get on base then it makes it just a little harder for Plawecki to hit into DPs

 

This way they can never hit in back to back DPs!

[vegasbob]

Facing 2 full season elimination games. If Sox history prevails, almost no doubt the team will make us face a deciding game #7 for an all-in bet. I wonder how the clubhouse really was as the Sox faced the Yankees down 3-2 in the sixth game of 2004. Millar's famous quote (" Don't let the Red Sox win tonight") was prior to game 4 but I bet there were some guys tighter than others back then.

 

Who is loose and who is going to be coughing hard tonight ?

[Thunder]

Facing 2 full season elimination games. If Sox history prevails, almost no doubt the team will make us face a deciding game #7 for an all-in bet. I wonder how the clubhouse really was as the Sox faced the Yankees down 3-2 in the sixth game of 2004. Millar's famous quote (" Don't let the Red Sox win tonight") was prior to game 4 but I bet there were some guys tighter than others back then.

 

Who is loose and who is going to be coughing hard tonight ?

 

We've had nothing to lose for most of the season. Nothing is different tonight

[Maxbialystock]

No surprises there- dancin with the ones that brung ya ...

 

I opined Dalbec for Renfroe with Schwarber moving to LF and Verdugo to RF, but obviously I'm fine with whatever Cora decides.