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[mvp 78]

And the Red Sox cheated in 2018.

 

That doesn't sound right?

[iortiz]

And the Red Sox cheated in 2018.

 

How did the players, manager and FO cheat? Why weren't they punished?

[mvp 78]

The Astros did lose draft picks, big-time.

 

Loss of first- and second-round picks for 2020 and 2021

 

Those 2nd rounders weren't going to sign anyway.

[Bellhorn04]

How did the players, manager and FO cheat? Why weren't they punished?

 

You missed that one?

[iortiz]

You missed that one?

 

I never knew the details of the facts but just wonder why the Astros were punished and the Red Sox just got an administrative penalty.

[moonslav59]

When we play in LA, we will have two pitchers batting.

 

When they play in BOS, they will not have a pitcher batting but we will.

 

What does this have to do to refute the point that their OPS is affected by the pitcher needing to hit?

 

If we had to bat our pitcher, our OPS would be worse than LA's. We'd still have our 1Bman hitting.

[Bellhorn04]

I never knew the details of the facts but just wonder why the Astros were punished and the Red Sox just got an administrative penalty.

 

The Red Sox lost a second-round draft pick.

[moonslav59]

Cron pulled his groin.

 

One less target.

[moonslav59]

The Red Sox lost a second-round draft pick.

 

We also lost IFA signings, one recent year, for another infraction.

[Bellhorn04]

We also lost IFA signings, one recent year, for another infraction.

 

Correct. And there was the Apple Watch thing.

 

After the Astros, we have been the cheatin'est.

[Larry Cook]

Leiter signed with Texas!

[iortiz]

The Red Sox lost a second-round draft pick.

 

Which IMO is not at the Astros's level of punishment. If both teams cheated, both should receive the same level of punishment, but they didn't. Neither player nor coach or FO member was suspended. None

 

I have read all kind of opinions regarding the issue but at this point no one knows with 100% of certainty what happened as long as I know.

 

I have read that there's no evidence that the Sox cheated reason why no one was suspended. Makes sense.

 

They say that it was an administrative fault with the camera guy (who btw was suspended) reason why they only got an administrative penalty —the round pick.

[mvp 78]

The Red Sox lost a second-round draft pick.

 

Sounds rude to me.

[mvp 78]

Correct. And there was the Apple Watch thing.

 

After the Astros, we have been the cheatin'est.

 

Pedroia's lasting legacy.

[notin]

The Red Sox lost a second-round draft pick.

 

Well, it’s always in the last place you look…

[Maxbialystock]

A lot of negativity about the cheating (stealing signals), but I think it's justified.

[mvp 78]

Well, it’s always in the last place you look…

 

I'm sure this year's 2nd rounder will be found sometime next year.

[notin]

A lot of negativity about the cheating (stealing signals), but I think it's justified.

 

I also have vastly different feelings about team cheating vs individual player cheating. Is that hypocritical?

[moonslav59]

Well, today's mantra is "everyone's doing it, so why..."

[Nick]

Well, today's mantra is "everyone's doing it, so why..."

 

Sox just didn't cheat as good as Astros. They were good at it.

[notin]

Marte to Oakland for Jesus Luzardo.

 

If Luzardo finds himself, that Miami staff has some serious talent…

[mvp 78]

Marte to Oakland for Jesus Luzardo.

 

If Luzardo finds himself, that Miami staff has some serious talent…

 

Luzardo is in the wilderness right now.

[Bellhorn04]

A lot of negativity about the cheating (stealing signals), but I think it's justified.

 

I just think we have to be a little careful about getting holier-than-thou about the Astros and talking about stripping titles. There are people out there who think the Red Sox should also have forfeited their 2018 rings, and that they should never have re-hired Cora etc.

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[Nick]

I'm still intrigued about Syndergaard for 2022. He is a free agent after this year. He made $9.7M this year. Does he have bigger upside than E Rod?

[mvp 78]

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[Nick]

Dodgers at $262M and looking to add to payroll. Unreal.

 

(Pujols $24M and Kelly $8.3M comes off the books)

Edited July 28, 2021 by Nick

[notin]

I'm still intrigued about Syndergaard for 2022. He is a free agent after this year. He made $9.7M this year. Does he have bigger upside than E Rod?

 

Significantly.

 

Also very likely to command a significantly bigger paycheck.

 

He very well might be worth it, but Thor also has a lengthy injury history. I’d be wary of a long term deal…

[notin]

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Reds Designate Josh Osich For Assignment

 

The toughest tongue twister name in MLB…

[mvp 78]

The toughest tongue twister name in MLB…

 

I will always stan the horrible 2020 bullpen arms.