Cashman

[Northern Star]

I know his job security seems fine, but surely when the franchise has been spending at these levels of payroll for the past 18 years, just two World Series appearances isn't going to cut it. Makes me wonder how many more years they could go without another appearance - this past decade being the first in history with none - before the pressure mounts.

[Thunder]

They need to get rid of Steve Donahue first

[Kimmi]

I know his job security seems fine, but surely when the franchise has been spending at these levels of payroll for the past 18 years, just two World Series appearances isn't going to cut it. Makes me wonder how many more years they could go without another appearance - this past decade being the first in history with none - before the pressure mounts.

 

Hal stated yesterday that both Cashman and Boone will be back next year.

[moonslav59]

Hal stated yesterday that both Cashman and Boone will be back next year.

 

Great news for Sox fans!

[Bellhorn04]

Great news for Sox fans!

 

Indeed LOL

[moonslav59]

Indeed LOL

 

It would be like us keeping Bobby Valentine.

 

(Sarcasm alert)

[notin]

Hal stated yesterday that both Cashman and Boone will be back next year.

 

Seriously? Boone is coming back?

 

He must have some really good blackmail on Steinbrenner. Some compromising pictures or maybe incriminating emails. Something.

 

I can't imagine he is coming back due to his managerial acumen and success...

[Thunder]

It would be like us keeping Bobby Valentine.

 

(Sarcasm alert)

 

Or Ron Roenicke!

[Bellhorn04]

Cashman has made a lot of very good moves and has made the Yankees a contender year-in and year-out.

 

But a lot of Yankee fans want him gone because of the lack of postseason success.

 

And the Yankees do some weird things. This year they sign Cole to a 324 million deal, indicating they are all-in for 2020.

 

But then they fail to make a single move at the trade deadline to bolster their pitching in spite of the losses of Paxton and Kahnle etc.

[Kimmi]

Great news for Sox fans!

 

That was I was thinking. LOL

 

Actually, I think Cashman does a pretty good job. I'm glad Doofus Boone is returning though.

[Kimmi]

Seriously? Boone is coming back?

 

He must have some really good blackmail on Steinbrenner. Some compromising pictures or maybe incriminating emails. Something.

 

I can't imagine he is coming back due to his managerial acumen and success...

 

Who knows why he's coming back? Don't question it, just embrace it.

[Kimmi]

Cashman has made a lot of very good moves and has made the Yankees a contender year-in and year-out.

 

But a lot of Yankee fans want him gone because of the lack of postseason success.

 

And the Yankees do some weird things. This year they sign Cole to a 324 million deal, indicating they are all-in for 2020.

 

But then they fail to make a single move at the trade deadline to bolster their pitching in spite of the losses of Paxton and Kahnle etc.

 

The playoffs are just too much of a crap shoot. It doesn't matter how great a GM is, or how great a team he puts together. A WS Championship is far from guaranteed, even for a 105 win team. The goal is to have a team that is a contender year in and year out.

[Bellhorn04]

The playoffs are just too much of a crap shoot. It doesn't matter how great a GM is, or how great a team he puts together. A WS Championship is far from guaranteed, even for a 105 win team. The goal is to have a team that is a contender year in and year out.

 

I'm just saying that those deadline moves can be key to address weaknesses that have arisen or increase depth.

[moonslav59]

I'm just saying that those deadline moves can be key to address weaknesses that have arisen or increase depth.

 

He's done a lot of big deadline moves- just never at "the right time."

[Bellhorn04]

He's done a lot of big deadline moves- just never at "the right time."

 

We made pretty big deadline moves in 2004, 2007, 2013 and 2018.

[jacksonianmarch]

From the sounds of it, this year, he couldn’t add payroll. That’s problematic for the Yanks for 2021, imo. The only thing you can do as a GM is give your team a chance to win. It’s not up to the GM to put a team over the top, that’s on the coach and the players. To have deftly dealt with the corpses of Jeter and ARod, the upside down spending of a team on the downswing, and then rebuild the team into a title contending club for four years now is pretty good. High payroll guarantees you nothing beyond a better chance. I like Cashman. I think he flubbed the game 2 s*** vs TB (sounds like Boone went along with an idea from the FO). I would have loved to have seen another warm body who can start come in at the deadline. Other than that, his small acquisitions seem to hit every year.

[Kimmi]

I'm just saying that those deadline moves can be key to address weaknesses that have arisen or increase depth.

 

Yes. I don't disagree with that. I think the right deadline moves are very important.

 

I was responding to the line about Yankees fans wanting Cashman gone due to the lack of postseason success.

[Kimmi]

From the sounds of it, this year, he couldn’t add payroll. That’s problematic for the Yanks for 2021, imo. The only thing you can do as a GM is give your team a chance to win. It’s not up to the GM to put a team over the top, that’s on the coach and the players. To have deftly dealt with the corpses of Jeter and ARod, the upside down spending of a team on the downswing, and then rebuild the team into a title contending club for four years now is pretty good. High payroll guarantees you nothing beyond a better chance. I like Cashman. I think he flubbed the game 2 s*** vs TB (sounds like Boone went along with an idea from the FO). I would have loved to have seen another warm body who can start come in at the deadline. Other than that, his small acquisitions seem to hit every year.

 

I tend to agree about Cashman. I have stated often that I think he is a good GM.

 

Boone as a manager, not so much.

[jacksonianmarch]

Agree X 2. Cashman is a plus. Boone is a schill

[Bellhorn04]

Agree X 2. Cashman is a plus. Boone is a schill

 

Boone is Cashman's boy, though.

[jacksonianmarch]

He likely is. The Fo makes decisions for strategy pre game but Boone makes the decision on who to bring into the game. Boone has continually overplayed his hand and has left us vulnerable to needing more out of our top relievers and for two years in a row, it’s burned us.

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

From the sounds of it, this year, he couldn’t add payroll. That’s problematic for the Yanks for 2021, imo. The only thing you can do as a GM is give your team a chance to win. It’s not up to the GM to put a team over the top, that’s on the coach and the players. To have deftly dealt with the corpses of Jeter and ARod, the upside down spending of a team on the downswing, and then rebuild the team into a title contending club for four years now is pretty good. High payroll guarantees you nothing beyond a better chance. I like Cashman. I think he flubbed the game 2 s*** vs TB (sounds like Boone went along with an idea from the FO). I would have loved to have seen another warm body who can start come in at the deadline. Other than that, his small acquisitions seem to hit every year.

 

Give credit where credit's due... that the Yankees and Red Sox always seem to find overlooked guys that "blossom" or have career years isn't coincidental or lucky. GMs like Cashman and Epstein are smart enough to have their scouts and nerds target "finds" -- which are in reality professional hitters who really benefit being in lineups with middle-of-the order mashers that totally stress out pitchers' elbows and rotator cuffs before their turns at bat.

 

Those batting orders help produce the Urshelas, Voits and Twatmans of the world... and allow Bill Muellers to win batting crowns batting 8th or Steve Pearces World Series MVPs.

 

It isn't always a bench coach like Carlos Beltran "paying attention to details"...

[moonslav59]

When you make hundreds of signings over the 20+ seasons as Yankee GM, you are bound to get some right. The list of bad to horrific signings is pretty long, too. (Some horrific trades, too.)

 

Here is just the list of every Yankee contract that made the top 70 contracts in MLB history:

 

Highest paid contracts by ranking:

7. ARod I (2008)

9. ARod II (2001)

22. Jeter (2001)

25. Teixeira (2009)

31. CC Sab (2009)

36. Tanaka (2014)

39. Ellsbury (2014)

65. CC Sab (2012)

67. Giambi (2002) adjust for inflation and this would place higher

(82. traded for Kevin Brown)

 

Here's the Sox list:

16. Price

33. Manny

38. AGon

42. Sale

46. Crawford

67. Bogey

_______

75. Pedey & JD

93. Paloaf

 

 

 

[notin]

Boone is Cashman's boy, though.

 

Well, as every parent knows, that someday will come when your own little boy has to leave the nest and be replaced by Will Venable...

[5GoldGlovesOF,75]

When you make hundreds of signings over the 20+ seasons as Yankee GM, you are bound to get some right. The list of bad to horrific signings is pretty long, too. (Some horrific trades, too.)

 

Here is just the list of every Yankee contract that made the top 70 contracts in MLB history:

 

Highest paid contracts by ranking:

7. ARod I (2008)

9. ARod II (2001)

22. Jeter (2001)

25. Teixeira (2009)

31. CC Sab (2009)

36. Tanaka (2014)

39. Ellsbury (2014)

65. CC Sab (2012)

67. Giambi (2002) adjust for inflation and this would place higher

(82. traded for Kevin Brown)

 

Here's the Sox list:

16. Price

33. Manny

38. AGon

42. Sale

46. Crawford

67. Bogey

_______

75. Pedey & JD

93. Paloaf

 

 

 

 

Yes, the big market clubs can usually afford to absorb mistakes (I almost said "eat contracts", but Fungu Panda was leering at me). Guys that don't fit in aren't kept around for very long -- like Renteria or Sonny Gray.

 

But if you're Cleveland and you sign Wayne Garland for 10 years and he blows out his arm after one season, you're screwed for the next decade.

[notin]

Yes, the big market clubs can usually afford to absorb mistakes (I almost said "eat contracts", but Fungu Panda was leering at me). Guys that don't fit in aren't kept around for very long -- like Renteria or Sonny Gray.

 

But if you're Cleveland and you sign Wayne Garland for 10 years and he blows out his arm after one season, you're screwed for the next decade.

 

Or even if he doesn’t blow out his arm, since Wayne Garland is like 70 years old...