What should Bloom's plan for 2020 be?

[moonslav59]

Jackie Bradley Jr., J.D. Martinez and Brandon Workman have limited trade value:

 

https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/teams/604/

 

... but the Red Sox could pursue trades nevertheless.

 

Oh, I get that JD & JBJ have very limited trade value, but something is better than nothing. If nothing is all that is offered, I might still do it to save money. (True, no money will be "saved" for 2021, unless JD opts in, but money saved now by Henry could be used to pay taxes later.)

 

Workman could get us something nice. He could also be packaged with JD, JBJ, Price or Eovaldi to lessen the financial additions we'd likely have to make to dump the last 2.

 

How about Eovaldi, JD, JBJ & Workman to TX for Odor, Frazier & Hernandez (C prospect)?

 

I'm not sure the Rangers want to spend this much, but you get the theory, assuming Betts is traded as well..

Edited January 23, 2020 by moonslav59

[mvp 78]

Isn't it already there and has been all winter?

 

Nope.

[moonslav59]

Nope.

 

He paid cash for Perez & Peraza. The checkbook is locked away.

[Bellhorn04]

He paid cash for Perez & Peraza. The checkbook is locked away.

 

Pretty hard to argue with that point.

[mvp 78]

He paid cash for Perez & Peraza. The checkbook is locked away.

 

Wrong. It was Kohl’s Cash.

[moonslav59]

I guess I'm not in such a small minority.

[harmony]

According to The Athletic, the Red Sox have discussed a trade involving Mookie Betts and Wil Myers:

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/01/padres-discussing-mookie-betts-trade-with-red-sox.html

 

https://theathletic.com/1557943/2020/01/23/sources-padres-and-red-sox-have-discussed-potential-mookie-betts-trade/

 

That makes little sense although Athletic reporter Dennis Lin was in on the breaking story of the Craig Kimbrel trade back with Lin was with the San Diego Union-Tribune.

[mvp 78]

According to The Athletic, the Red Sox have discussed a trade involving Mookie Betts and Wil Myers:

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/01/padres-discussing-mookie-betts-trade-with-red-sox.html

 

https://theathletic.com/1557943/2020/01/23/sources-padres-and-red-sox-have-discussed-potential-mookie-betts-trade/

 

That makes little sense although Athletic reporter Dennis Lin was in on the breaking story of the Craig Kimbrel trade back with Lin was with the San Diego Union-Tribune.

 

Ewwwww

[mvp 78]

Harmony forgot to mention significant amount of prospect talent

[moonslav59]

According to The Athletic, the Red Sox have discussed a trade involving Mookie Betts and Wil Myers:

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/01/padres-discussing-mookie-betts-trade-with-red-sox.html

 

https://theathletic.com/1557943/2020/01/23/sources-padres-and-red-sox-have-discussed-potential-mookie-betts-trade/

 

That makes little sense although Athletic reporter Dennis Lin was in on the breaking story of the Craig Kimbrel trade back with Lin was with the San Diego Union-Tribune.

 

It's got to include Price or Eovaldi.

 

I've suggested such trades on the trade simulator- like this one:

 

Betts & Price

 

for

 

Myers, Margot, Quantrill, Campusano & Morejon

 

[mvp 78]

What if it don’t?

[moonslav59]

Here's one the trade simulator accepted:

 

Betts & Eovaldi

 

for

 

Myers, Margot, Patino & Campusano

 

If there is no Price or Eovaldi attached, maybe adding JBJ might work, although OF is not a SD need once they get Betts.

 

Betts & JBJ (+$4M)

 

for

 

Myers, Margot, Gore & Campusano

 

or

 

Betts for Myers, Gore, Campusano & Rosario

 

(Not saying I like these deals.)

[jacksonianmarch]

Gore is untouchable per previous reports

[moonslav59]

Gore is untouchable per previous reports

 

Then, Patino, Campusano plus....

[mvp 78]

Espinoza as a throw in.

[notin]

Isn't it already there and has been all winter?

 

Heck he took it last winter...

[moonslav59]

Heck he took it last winter...

 

Eovaldi was paid with the checkbook. Pearce with pocket change.

[Bellhorn04]

The checkbook has been in the safe since the Eovaldi signing.

 

Unless you included the extensions for Sale and Bogey, which we probably should...

[Noles_1335]

How are the votes for plug and compete creeping up. Yes we compete with the lineup we have when healthy, However, there is no guarantee that Mookie even wants the long term deal in Boston. Furthermore, if we sign him and its in the ballpark of of 10-330/380mil what does that do to our spending down the road. We need to make the most of the situation and replenish the farm. If Sale or Price miss multiple games( certain to happen) and god forbid Erod go down, who is left to fill those voids? There are no arms coming that will make a difference. Go get some prospects and move on from 2020.

[moonslav59]

How are the votes for plug and compete creeping up. Yes we compete with the lineup we have when healthy, However, there is no guarantee that Mookie even wants the long term deal in Boston. Furthermore, if we sign him and its in the ballpark of of 10-330/380mil what does that do to our spending down the road. We need to make the most of the situation and replenish the farm. If Sale or Price miss multiple games( certain to happen) and god forbid Erod go down, who is left to fill those voids? There are no arms coming that will make a difference. Go get some prospects and move on from 2020.

 

It's still 13-8 on wanting some sort of sell-off at some point before or at the deadline.

 

I thought the vote would be flipped 8-13.

[mvp 78]

How are the votes for plug and compete creeping up. Yes we compete with the lineup we have when healthy, However, there is no guarantee that Mookie even wants the long term deal in Boston. Furthermore, if we sign him and its in the ballpark of of 10-330/380mil what does that do to our spending down the road. We need to make the most of the situation and replenish the farm. If Sale or Price miss multiple games( certain to happen) and god forbid Erod go down, who is left to fill those voids? There are no arms coming that will make a difference. Go get some prospects and move on from 2020.

 

I think a lot of fans don't want to go through with a season where ownership waved the white flag in January.

[mvp 78]

It's still 13-8 on wanting some sort of sell-off at some point before or at the deadline.

 

Not really since posters can pick for more than one poll option.

[moonslav59]

Not really since posters can pick for more than one poll option.

 

All choices, except 1 involve trading someone at some point.

[moonslav59]

I think a lot of fans don't want to go through with a season where ownership waved the white flag in January.

 

Agreed.

 

I think they wait until the deadline.

 

I understand the business side, but as a fan, my choice would be to go for it in 2021 or 2022 and give up on 2020.

[Elktonnick]

Chain Bloom said that he won't rush hiring a new manager. He is prepared to start Spring Training without a manager being named. The guys on MLB's Hot Stove went ballistic over his comments.

[mvp 78]

Chain Bloom said that he won't rush hiring a new manager. He is prepared to start Spring Training without a manager being named. The guys on MLB's Hot Stove went ballistic over his comments.

 

Maybe having a bench coach for ST is enough? I mean, how many middle aged dues in ill fitting uniforms do you need standing around during a game?

[Slasher9]

i think the plan is to have Annie Savoy manage the team in ST...

[mvp 78]

i think the plan is to have Annie Savoy manage the team in ST...

 

s***** movie IMO.

[Elktonnick]

Maybe having a bench coach for ST is enough? I mean, how many middle aged dues in ill fitting uniforms do you need standing around during a game?

The point that Harold Baines made is that the manager sets the tone for the team. He thought Boston was inviting another instance of inmates running the asylum scenario with no one in charge. As a former big leaguer Harold Baines has a lot of credibility and his comments have to be taken seriously.

If Bloom is serious about not naming a manager before the start of ST, I'd say Henry learned nothing from last year's disastrous ST.

[mvp 78]

The point that Harold Baines made is that the manager sets the tone for the team. He thought Boston was inviting another instance of inmates running the asylum scenario with no one in charge. As a former big leaguer Harold Baines has a lot of credibility and his comments have to be taken seriously.

If Bloom is serious about not naming a manager before the start of ST, I'd say Henry learned nothing from last year's disastrous ST.

 

Unless the future manager will already be with the team and not just given that title?