2020 HOF Vote Tracker

[Carpin]

Not on the first ballot.

 

If I remember right, you were the one saying that a player is a HOF or not, and it doesn't matter if it's the first or the last ballot

[moonslav59]

If I remember right, you were the one saying that a player is a HOF or not, and it doesn't matter if it's the first or the last ballot

 

I'm not sure I said it, and it really shouldn't matter, but when you look at history, it would seem unfair that Jete gets a unanimous vote, which is different from making it first ballot.

 

He will make it first ballot. I wouldn't vote for him on any ballot, except maybe his last try.

[Carpin]

I never said that. Being bad but not horrible might still allow you to get in.

 

Or, if you are a great hitter (Jeter was not), it could outweigh being a really bad fielder.

 

Jeter was a good hitter, a good runner and a horrible defender at an important position. It's close, but I say no- certainly on the first ballot, but it looks like I'm in a tiny minority on this case.

 

How many players get in with a unanimous vote first ballot? Do you think Jeter deserves that?

 

 

100% of the votes is only for a handful of players, Rivera is one of them, Jeter is not.

 

Also Griffey, Maddux, Ryan and some others should have been 100%

 

By the way, Jeter was an average defender, if you take his career as the complete sample, you're trying to take his last few years as his career norm.

[Carpin]

Not on the first ballot.

 

would you vote for Manny Ramirez in the first ballot?

[moonslav59]

would you vote for Manny Ramirez in the first ballot?

 

No, but second, yes- just because of PEDs.

[notin]

would you vote for Manny Ramirez in the first ballot?

 

Yes. But I'm not a PED nutbag like a lot of people...

[notin]

100% of the votes is only for a handful of players, Rivera is one of them, Jeter is not.

Also Griffey, Maddux, Ryan and some others should have been 100%

 

By the way, Jeter was an average defender, if you take his career as the complete sample, you're trying to take his last few years as his career norm.

 

 

Handful? It has happened one time...

[Slasher9]

100% of the votes is only for a handful of players, Rivera is one of them, Jeter is not.

 

Also Griffey, Maddux, Ryan and some others should have been 100%

 

By the way, Jeter was an average defender, if you take his career as the complete sample, you're trying to take his last few years as his career norm.

 

mariano is the only one that got 100%.

babe freakin ruth didnt even.

[moonslav59]

Gotta think the babe, Cobb, Gehrig, Musual, Mays and maybe others deserved 100%.

[Slasher9]

Gotta think the babe, Cobb, Gehrig, Musual, Mays and maybe others deserved 100%.

 

Jackie Robinson

[Carpin]

Handful? It has happened one time...

 

i know it didn't happened, but it should have

[moonslav59]

Jackie Robinson

 

He went through a lot, but his numbers don't equal those on my short list. I'd be fine with him at 100%. I left of a lot of pitchers, too.

[Carpin]

Public Ballots: 149

Anonymous Ballots: 7

% of Ballots Known: 37.9%

"Last Updated:

1/16/2020 at 13:20 PST"

Derek Jeter 100.0%

Larry Walker 85.3%

Curt Schilling 80.1%

Barry Bonds 74.4%

Roger Clemens 73.1%

 

Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens falling in the ballots

[Carpin]

Public Ballots: 204

Anonymous Ballots: 8

% of Ballots Known: 51.5%

"Last Updated:

1/21/2020 at 07:00 PST"

Derek Jeter 100.0%

Larry Walker 83.5%

Curt Schilling 78.8%

Barry Bonds 71.7%

Roger Clemens 70.8%

 

At this pace, even Schilling will be out of the hall for one more year

[moonslav59]

Bonds & Clemens will make it on their last ballot chance.

 

Schill may never make it, but maybe his last ballot will be his best shot.

 

Looks like Walker and Jete go this year.

[Carpin]

Bonds & Clemens will make it on their last ballot chance.

 

Schill may never make it, but maybe his last ballot will be his best shot.

 

Looks like Walker and Jete go this year.

 

The ballot in 2022 will be interesting, Bonds & Clemens might finally be in the HOF and the first year for Arod, with the way he has worked in his image over the last few years, I'm assuming he will be in the hall in less years than Bonds and Clemens

[mvp 78]

Public Ballots: 204

Anonymous Ballots: 8

% of Ballots Known: 51.5%

"Last Updated:

1/21/2020 at 07:00 PST"

Derek Jeter 100.0%

Larry Walker 83.5%

Curt Schilling 78.8%

Barry Bonds 71.7%

Roger Clemens 70.8%

 

At this pace, even Schilling will be out of the hall for one more year

 

It's going to be close for Walker. We'll see if he gets in.

[Carpin]

Derek Jeter 99.7%

Larry Walker 76.6%

[moonslav59]

Derek Jeter 99.7%

Larry Walker 76.6%

 

So Jete won't be unanimous.

 

Walker deserves in.

[moonslav59]

Jete misses by one.

 

Walker 76.6% on 10th ballot.

 

Schill gets 70% on 8th ballot. Close call on future votes.

 

Clemens 61% on 8th. My guess is he gets in on the 10th.

 

Bonds 61% on 8th. Same as Roger.

 

Vizquel 53% on 3rd. I doubt he makes it.

 

Next year, these guys will be on the ballot:

 

Mark Buehrle

Tim Hudson

Torii Hunter

 

(None are better than Clemens, Bonds & Schill.)

[moonslav59]

Highest % Vote in History:

 

100 Mo

99.7 Jete

99.3 Griffey

98.8 Seaver

98.8 Ryan

98.5 Ripken

98.2 Cobb

98.2 Brett

97.8 Aaron

97.6 Gwynn

97.3 Randy Johnson

97.2 G Maddux

97.2 C Jones

96.5 Schmidt

96.4 Bench

95.6 Carlton

95.1 Ruth

95.1 Wagner

94.8 R Henderson

94.7 Mays

94.6 Yaz

94.0 Appling

93.8 Feller

93.6 R Jackson

93.4 Williams

93.2 Musial

92.9 Guerrero

92.7 Clemente

92.6 Palmer

92.0 B Robinson

91.9 Glavine

91.9 Boggs

91.7 O Smith

91.1 Pedro

90.7 Mathewson

90.5 Carew

90.0 R Alomar

 

 

 

 

[Jasonbay44]

The people that don’t vote obvious players in should have their voting rights taken away. In what world are Jeter and Ken Griffey Jr not hall of famers?

[moonslav59]

The people that don’t vote obvious players in should have their voting rights taken away. In what world are Jeter and Ken Griffey Jr not hall of famers?

 

I rhink they look at the short list of unanimous or near unanimous names and don't think those tow are better than some below them.

 

The bigger injustice is the 5-10 voters who left others off their first ballot.

 

I'm glad one guy left Jete off. If I had a vote, it would be 2 "no's."

[Slasher9]

The people that don’t vote obvious players in should have their voting rights taken away. In what world are Jeter and Ken Griffey Jr not hall of famers?

 

Jeter was an offense stat compiler and thats it. there isnt a world that i vote him into a HoF. he didnt even reach Walkers lifetime WAR and Walker barely made it in to the Hall on his last shot.

re2pect

[mvp 78]

The guys that should be elected going forward:

Clemens

Bonds

Schill

Rolen

Wagner

Helton

Manny

Andruw Jones

2021

Buehrle

2022

ARod

Ortiz

Teixeira

2024

Beltre

[moonslav59]

The guys that should be elected going forward:

Clemens

Bonds

Schill

Rolen

Wagner

Helton

Manny

Andruw Jones

2021

Buehrle

2022

ARod

Ortiz

Teixeira

2024

Beltre

 

Clemens

Bonds

Schill (maybe on last ballot, but I'm leaning no.)

Rolen (not sure)

Wagner (nope)

Helton (nope)

Manny (YES!)

Andruw Jones (maybe)

2021

Buehrle (Not likely, but maybe last ballot)

2022

ARod (make him wait)

Ortiz (YES)

Teixeira (Nope)

2024

Beltre Maybe)

 

[mvp 78]

Yeah, maybe Buehrle shouldn't get in, I just like him.

[Jasonbay44]

I rhink they look at the short list of unanimous or near unanimous names and don't think those tow are better than some below them.

 

The bigger injustice is the 5-10 voters who left others off their first ballot.

 

I'm glad one guy left Jete off. If I had a vote, it would be 2 "no's."

My point is that it’s incredibly stupid to not vote for an obviously Hall Of Fame player just so they won’t be “unanimous”. There is no way Mariano Rivera was the only “unanimous” hall of famer.

[Slasher9]

My point is that it’s incredibly stupid to not vote for an obviously Hall Of Fame player just so they won’t be “unanimous”. There is no way Mariano Rivera was the only “unanimous” hall of famer.

 

if babe ruth wasnt 100% - no one should be. ever.

i was not happy mariano got 100%. (deserve has nothing to do with it - Clint Eastwood)

no way on earth jeter should have gotten 100%. god bless that 1 voter.

[bkzwhitestrican]

But the logic behind that is kind of dumb. The guys who didn't vote for Babe or Griffey or Nolan were obviously idiots. So because they were idiots, now current voters have to vote in the same manner? Doesn't make sense to me.